alpengeist04 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 SHORT!? This thing looks HUGE. Its larger in size than i thought it would be. You are going to see those hills from the parking lot clearly...makes for a nice view. It's certainly not short. It all depends on what angle the photo is taken. Due to the steepness, some photos give the illusion of the lift hill being short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 It doesnt look high...but maybe thats because Im immume to anything looking "tall" anymore, despite its type (woodie or steel). Voyager still looks taller but thats obviously due to there being more track feet of track making up the lift. More menacing supports too. Cable lift should be interesting. The best part of the wooden coaster will be gone! No lift noise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMW FAN Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Now we have concrete proof of the cable lift! Yess, I cannot wait for this thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJackson Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 With a cable lift, the only differences between it being an Intamin woodie and most steel coasters is that ET will have is that it has the steepest drop on a woodie, the second tallest woodie in America, and the first woodie (correct me of I'm wrong) to have a cable lift. Though, the capacity should be good because it is a short ride and estimated loading time 1 minute, 10 seconds. Even though the staff can be quite slow on some days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjholla2003 Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 http://www.sixflags.com/parks/greatadventure/parkpress/photos.html Two new pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socalMAN123 Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Wow, this coaster is looking pretty awesome! Brent "yay for Intamin woodies" Shenton 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider117 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Just a quick update for you guys on Toro... View from parking lot... El Toro, Rolling Thunder and Kingda Ka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpengeist04 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 ^ How would you like your coaster, small, medium, or large. Anyway, once they finish the turnaround, things should move a little quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Why are there only extra supports on one side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJackson Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 ^^ Actually, its all down hill from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Cool Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Holly freaking sheet!!! traincrossinmicromarch2011-3 (2).sv6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immel Man Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Why are there only extra supports on one side? The structure probably doesn't need any additional support. No reason to use unnecessary lumber. Balder is the same way. traincrossinmicromarch2011-5.sv6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell_Ashes Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 I'm hoping to be there opening day. (Of the coaster not the park.) Probably, since my mom HATES theme parks, I won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfreak101 Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 I am so HAPPY that my family has a trip planned to go to SFGAdv this year! And that my little brother is tall enough for El Toro!!! Holly freaking sheet!!! You took the words right out of my mouth!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider117 Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 New pictures up on the Six Flags site... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MF310ryb Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Why are there only extra supports on one side? The extra supports on the inside are most likely to give support for when the train is going through the turn at the top of the lift before the drop. Rolling Thunder has the same thing when it goes through the high speed turn. The weight is shifted into that direction needing the extra support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 (edited) deleted Edited December 8, 2011 by larrygator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider117 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Sorry to bump such an old topic, but GADVUpdates got invited to a construction tour and posted an update about it.... http://gadvupdates.com/2-20-2006Update1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpengeist04 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 I'm guessing a May opening, the earliest being May 5th and the latest being Memorial weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekRx Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Thanks for the update. Its good to see they're still progressing on this ride, though it does seem to be at a very slow pace! Sorry, but I'm going to play the (Hop)Devil's Advocate here for a second. Saying a "Spring" opening is really sad considering other parks building wood coasters have an exact date of opening already. Spring goes all the way up thru June 20, so that's being pretty vague. Also, I've been reading the construction journal from time to time, and I have to laugh at their "progress". For the past 2 months its been sunny, unseasonably warm, and pretty much precipitation free, especially snow-wise, yet they claim they lose 1 day a week due to inclement weather. Apparently the firm GAd is using to build El Toro is PennDOT because if it takes them much longer to get that first drop complete, I may have to offer my assistance, or at least give them a motivational speech and/or more caffeine in their coffee. Hopefully they're working in lots of areas at once and we won't really see much "visual progress" until all at once even though they've been doing stuff the entire time. I'm still leaning towards it not being opened until mid-June, and I say that with great sadness. Whatever happened to the days when the brand new ride would open on opening day?! (especially when they plan, start clearing, sign for, and announce it a year+ in advance!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadeJ Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Apparently the firm GAd is using to build El Toro is PennDOT because if it takes them much longer to get that first drop complete, I may have to offer my assistance, or at least give them a motivational speech and/or more caffeine in their coffee. Hopefully they're working in lots of areas at once and we won't really see much "visual progress" until all at once even though they've been doing stuff the entire time. I'm still leaning towards it not being opened until mid-June, and I say that with great sadness. Whatever happened to the days when the brand new ride would open on opening day?! (especially when they plan, start clearing, sign for, and announce it a year+ in advance!) LOL, being from NJ, I know what you mean Actually, the 1st drop can't be started just yet or they could end up with a permanent crane in there. They have to build in a specific order to keep from getting boxed in. As for when it opens, this IS NJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Thanks to our friends Wade and Diana over at http://www.gadvupdates.com/ we were able to bring you some construction photos from their behind the scenes tour this weekend. Please be sure to check out their update, as well as all the other Six Flags Great Adventure information they have on the site, then have a look at some photos on TPR as well: http://www.themeparkreview.com/eltoro/eltoro1.htm Thanks again Wade and Diana! --Robb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HCOSurfer90 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I really cant wait to ride this thing this spring/summer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjholla2003 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Thanks for the update. Its good to see they're still progressing on this ride, though it does seem to be at a very slow pace! Sorry, but I'm going to play the (Hop)Devil's Advocate here for a second. Saying a "Spring" opening is really sad considering other parks building wood coasters have an exact date of opening already. Spring goes all the way up thru June 20, so that's being pretty vague. Also, I've been reading the construction journal from time to time, and I have to laugh at their "progress". For the past 2 months its been sunny, unseasonably warm, and pretty much precipitation free, especially snow-wise, yet they claim they lose 1 day a week due to inclement weather. Apparently the firm GAd is using to build El Toro is PennDOT because if it takes them much longer to get that first drop complete, I may have to offer my assistance, or at least give them a motivational speech and/or more caffeine in their coffee. Hopefully they're working in lots of areas at once and we won't really see much "visual progress" until all at once even though they've been doing stuff the entire time. I'm still leaning towards it not being opened until mid-June, and I say that with great sadness. Whatever happened to the days when the brand new ride would open on opening day?! (especially when they plan, start clearing, sign for, and announce it a year+ in advance!) I'd agree, but then there's things like this that I didn't even think of. (Stealing my own post from CoasterSims.) I was reading rec.roller-coaster, people were whining about the slowness of El Toro, and Coastin Steve came up with something I didn't hear while talking to any of the construction workers or engineers during the tours. (Posted by Coastin Steve on rrc): ...But to explain something about "WHY" the ride is so limited in it's progress THEE main reason why progress is so limited at this point has to do with the rides location. Sandwiched between Rollng Thunder and the water that's there, very much limits access to the area of the ride that's the farthest from the main midway. As it turns out this is where the tallest section of the ride is and where the monster cranes are required. In order not to "trap" the buliding cranes back there, they must hold off on doing any construction "in front" of them. This is not speculaltion. This come from talking to SF engineers when I've been there on construction tours. I've been told that once the big crane work is done that construction will be going on at many places on the ride all at once. (since they can all be done with smalller, more mobile cranes) The other factor for the bents they're woking on right now is the height / number of pieces per bent. By the time they get a 180 ft bent bolted together, get them rigged to crane into position and then attach all of the cross braces, 1 whole day is gone. This progress rate will go up markedly once they're doing smaller bents. Another note on progress availablity is weather based, but not in the way your thinking. While the weather in this area has been unseasonably warm, and it hasn't rained alot, it has been WINDY. 8-( Try precision craning, over 100 ft off the ground in high winds.... NOT !!! So, while the weather so far may seemed to have been good, in effect it really hasn't 8-( Another note on this particular coaster. There's not really that many Intamin people on the job. Basically this coaster is an erector set w/ directions that Intamin has made and sold to GrAdv. Its' more the job of GrAdv and local contractors to put the thing together. Sure there are Intamin advisers, butt basically it's being constructed by GrAdv When will it open ? Current guess says early May (basically still too much to do and too many variables to get an accurate time frame ) Coastin Steve Mid June is a bit too pessimistic, especially with how construction speed has picked up. I agree that it sucks that it won't be ready for opening day, but they never were aiming for opening day for whatever reason, so keeping that in mind makes it less bothersome. if you look at the progress, how fast it's starting to get now that the coaster is getting lower to the ground, and if you pay attention to the little things (most of which you can't tell in pictures), you'd see how fast they really are going. This update showed a lot more of the little things that you usually have to see with your own eyes to understand how the coaster is probably at 35-40% done material-wise. (based on the 30% mark as stated in the construction journal and the work done since then.) Hopefully I'll be able to go to the next tour, I miss walking around the park in the cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verticalzero Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Thank you for the updated pic's, it's lovely to see a Woodie this size get pieced together so quickly. I wonder if it will ride like "Colossos" at Heide Park. When the "upstop" wheels hit the top of the hills they make quite a noise. Let's hope its a Airtime filled ride for you lucky people living near the park. We need one of these built in the UK soon, as saving up for a USA airfare is very money draining, but once at the park it's more than worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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