GAcoaster Posted September 29, 2005 Author Share Posted September 29, 2005 Hopefully they rehab RT's station and give it a new Spanish tile roof or something and get it out of the 70's. I also wish the coaster went the other way back into the woods, it seems so big along the lake and ruins the feel of Frontier land. It also seemed like a waste to fix the area up just to tear it up again for the coaster. Rolling Thunder's station has a Spanish (barrel tile) roof already. The fix-up they did to the area was part of preparing to build the new ride. They simply removed the overgrowth and brush along the lake, and planted grass and annual flowers. The grass will stay along the lake, and the annuals would have to be replaced next season anyway (they only last through the Summer). The few new bushes they planted in the area are easily moved. As for the coaster "ruining" the view from Frontier Adventures along the lake, I don't see why you would think that. A wooden coaster along a lake shore looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Z Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 ^ Exactly my point, The landscaping of that area never looked better. You could have built the Kiddy park there, kept the carousel and turn the coaster around. Than the area would have been left untouched. Granted El Toro looks awesome, I just feel it takes away from the lake. With the new BBNP I hope it doesn't extend to far over near Lake Front, that has to be the most peaceful part of the park. It should just sit in that dead area where the Mc Donald's use to sit but after reading this "Around the corner, the park is building Bugs Bunny National Park, a wilderness-themed children's area on the park's "Great Lake" that will contain six rides, an interactive water feature, a lakeside theater and a snack bar." maybe they will use the lake behind the log flume for paddle boats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MF310ryb Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 ^not sure if your suggesting paddle boats again or that area on the peninsula of log flume across from where the paddle boasts used be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Cool Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 OMFG that is going to be amazing!!!!!!!!! Awesome year for wooden coasters!!! Lets just hope Six Flags can keep it up and going. Well looks like my good old SFSL wont be getting any new coaster again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.LouisBOI Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Actually about SFSTL, the coaster is most likely coming in 2007 and it most likely will be a hyper. As for next year, there are major rumors that the entire Illinois section in the back of the park is going to go under a major rehab and a flat or two might be included. Could be SWAT and Dungeon Drop from SFAW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXcEsWtR Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Voyage is still better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianojohn Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Looks awesome and I cannot wait to ride it in '06. Not sure if this was mentioned in any of the previous posts (sorry....didn't have time to read all 12 pages) but wouldn't it be great if SFGAdv gave a little TLC to Rolling Thunder in the off season? Seeing as El Toro will be right next to RT, I think that the time is right to re-track and basically repair RT. Any thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 The left side was retracked and they were working on the right side. I didn't get a chance to ride the left side after they did it, but I heard it was running better than ever. However, I'm still sure it sucked. Anyway, they are working on it, which is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoddenWarior Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Even if Holiday World wasn't my home park, I'd still have to go with Voyage as being the better coaster. El Toro's design seems pretty unoriginal to me. Voyage is still better That sums up my statement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Rosenzweig Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 36 is a normal number for a woodie. It's about the upper limit for a woodie train but still normal. I would call 24 normal for a woodie. There may be others, but this is the first 36 seater I've heard of. (Balder and Colossos have 30 seats per train) I'm sure they made El Toro 36 seats to keep the long lines moving, since Great Adventure has a very high yearly attendance. As far as I know, there are only two other woodies with 36 passenger trains, and they both reside at PKI- Beast and SOB. As was mentioned, the other two Intamin pluggers feature two 5 car trains, while ET will feature two 6 car trains. In the PTC realm, most two bench car trains consist of six cars, while some (i.e. Mean Streak) have seven. Most three bench trains have four cars while some have five (i.e. Rebel Yell, PKI Racer). Of course, there are also shorter trains like those running on Hades, Avalanche, and JR2. The two bench car Gerstlauer trains that popped up all across the US around the turn of the century all feature six car trains, except the two seven car trains on Twisted Twins at SFKK. The two bench trailered fiberglass Morgan trains all have two bench cars. Most of these trains are made up of six cars (i.e. both California Giant Dippers), while some have seven car trains (i.e. LaMonstre), while at least one has a five car train (Seabreeze Jack Rabbit). Bottom line- a 36 passenger train on a wood coaster is NOT commonplace. -Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrea Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 That thing looks saaaweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frade Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Thas is awesome, no mere words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelydr Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Eh, its nice to know an Intamin Woodie is making it to the states, even though I will probably never make it to the East Coast to ride it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIPDUDE Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 I hate it when coasters are going to open right after you go to the park. Happened with Silver Bullet, now this X_X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Will it have regular lapbars, or the backpack straps found on the rockets?? Other than that, I think it looks quite spectacular! Cameron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NitroJoeC Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 From the animation, the trains looks the same as the other two Intamin woodies, except these look to have much higher sides on them. JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hattuchili Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Wow, that wooden coaster looks awesome! I can´t wait, to see the first pictures! --Sören Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rock401 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 If this isn't going to be a steel-frame woodie, did anyone say "Son of Beast"? Paul "Hate to play the devil's advocate, but that much speed beats the crap out of wood!" Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking86 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Colossos @ Heide Park is slightly taller than El Toro, the structure is all wood and people say that its as smooth as it was when it opened 4 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonKhan Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 If this isn't going to be a steel-frame woodie, did anyone say "Son of Beast"? Paul "Hate to play the devil's advocate, but that much speed beats the crap out of wood!" Miller Do people still not realize that the modern Intamin Woodies are totally capable of going over heights of 300ft... Think of a steel coaster that looks wooden and you pretty muc have your ride experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 ^ Except that the Intamin woodies don't feel like an Intamin steel coaster. Granted they are a lot smoother than your traditional wood coaster (which IMO is a MUCH better ride experience) but they don't feel like steel coasters either. This is the evolution of the wood coaster, making it a smoother more enjoyable ride, while still feeling like a woodie. Just like B&M smoothed out the rougher Arrow steelies and made them a smoother more enjoyable experience. It's evolution. It just took a lot longer for wood coasters! --Robb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exarion14 Posted October 1, 2005 Share Posted October 1, 2005 I love that drop!! I'm so gonna ride that out! Also..THANKS ROBB FOR LETTING ME BACK TO THE FORUMS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterguy618 Posted October 1, 2005 Share Posted October 1, 2005 ^^^^SO what your basically saying is that intamin woodies don't age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking86 Posted October 1, 2005 Share Posted October 1, 2005 I belive Intamin woodies requires alot less maintenance than "regular" woodies, because the track does not consist of many layers of wood, but one thick wooden beam. When I rode Balder earlier this year, it was smoother than most of the steel coasters Ive been on, while Thundercoaster (Allot & Lomax woodie) has gone really crappy and its only one year older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAcoaster Posted October 1, 2005 Author Share Posted October 1, 2005 After seeing the plans posted in the park's Preview Center last night, it defintely looks like SWAT is on its way (sorry for the size): More pics of the plans over on my site: http://amusementpics.com/Summer%2005%20Notes.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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