Canobie Coaster Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Yes it's a bit annoying they didn't have second trains, but the longest wait I saw was a half hour on Memorial Day. That's not bad for the worst wait on a holiday weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon127 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Will Six Flags Darien Lake begin running second trains on the rollercoasters now that they repurchased the park? The single train coasters were a big downside of going there on days when the park was packed. Ive been to the park three times, and all three times, lines weren't long enough to even justify a 2nd train. Its not a priority of the park, and it sounds like alot of other six flags parks, don't care about two train operations either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlahBlahson Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 I think the only coaster in this park where I could see having a second train would be Ride of Steel. The lines they get don't really justify an expense for Predator, Viper, or Motocoaster in all honesty, even on a busy day I can't see those lines ever over 45 minutes. Except...they would probably have to upgrade to a newer restraint system and buy two trains if they did upgrade for Ride of Steel, for consistency. So I am all for this park not having two trains for anything and spending that money on new attractions instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pryonisys Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 It would be kind of nice to have a second train on Ride of Steel and Motocoaster, but I completely understand crowds not justifying putting a second train on either of these coasters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjr19 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 I think the only coaster in this park where I could see having a second train would be Ride of Steel. The lines they get don't really justify an expense for Predator, Viper, or Motocoaster in all honesty, even on a busy day I can't see those lines ever over 45 minutes. Except...they would probably have to upgrade to a newer restraint system and buy two trains if they did upgrade for Ride of Steel, for consistency. So I am all for this park not having two trains for anything and spending that money on new attractions instead. Honestly in my experiences, Viper is the one that needs it the most. Almost always a long wait when I’m there, even if the line is in the station. It just has such a long ride duration to the point where the line barely moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pryonisys Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 I've only been there once this season, but Viper had no one in the station at all and I just walked right on. If there were more people I could see Viper being slow because of length. One would think there should just be random spare Arrow trains around at one of the Six Flags parks that could be fixed up and added to Viper if needed (as you can tell I don't know the logistics of how this works due to my extreme over simplification). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haymaker Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Viper still has 3 trains according to a poster here, and I noticed the train theyre using is numbered 3. They just havent used a second train in about 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SbSteveZ Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) ^ First and foremost, they used the orange train last year. They're using the blue train this year. Not sure where you got the 4 years from. (EDIT: After clarification I am now sure of where you got the 4 years from.) Second and more importantly, I was pleasantly surprised when I visited SFGAdv this past Tuesday/Wednesday to see how much less crowded that place can be compared to SFDL. To put it in perspective, every single coaster at SFGAdv had less than a one train wait the entire day, whereas even on a crummy weather day at Darien Lake, RoS almost always has at least a crowded station. Not even El Toro had that and its one of the best wooden coasters I've ever ridden. Their brand new ride, Wonder Woman, had at most 3/4 of the ride full, whereas every time I've visited SFDL since SkyScreamer opened, it has had a full queue house with at least a 3-4 cycle wait, again, even on crummy days that thing has a line. Now that the full season is beginning to kick into high gear with daily operations and the park closing at 10pm nightly until September, it should be exciting to see how the attendance numbers do. I think its safe to say there will be a positive shift - especially thanks to the new memberships Six Flags offers. Also, one more note, SFGAdv was running multiple trains on all applicable coasters on Tuesday, with reduced capacity on Wednesday for what I assume would be weather related reasons. I'm not sure where the idea of Six Flags not caring about running multiple trains is coming from, because it seems like that is a distinctly Darien Lake issue. Even when I was at Knoebels last year and they were running single trains, no one seemed to care about it nearly as much as folks at DL do. It's strange. Edited June 21, 2019 by SbSteveZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haymaker Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 ^ First and foremost, they used the orange train last year. They're using the blue train this year. Not sure where you got the 4 years from. Two trains at once. Like I said, there are 3 trains, but they havent run two train ops since 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SbSteveZ Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 ^ ah yes, I see now that you said “a second train” not “the second train”. My bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwoodrocket Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Viper must have really gobbled up the lines quick, back in the day with 3 trains running. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarienPoint Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 I was at SFDL a few days ago and absolutely nothing had a line, I walked on to Skyscreamer twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haymaker Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Schools not out yet, not surprising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanphilly Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 You're all pretty right on about that. And I agree. However, on Saturdays when there is a concert at night the park is absolutely packed. The wait times become in excess of 45 minutes for Ride of Steel, Viper, etc. It would be nice for an "as needed" day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ride of steel Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 On the Brown concert day I ran a personal record of people through Slingshot (Almost 30 per hour) it was pretty insane. So far Predator is running decent but Silver Comet (Hey look who got a 20th anniversary sign) is running way better. The reprofiling of the last turn made the ending way more fun but the same can't be said for the rest of the ride. Also worth noting Six Flags is treating Viper like the flagship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SbSteveZ Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 ^ there really has never been a comparison between Predator and Silver Comet. The comet has almost always been the better of the two. Fantasy Island has maintained that ride very well, plus it’s based off of the comet from Crystal Beach so it has historical ties to the area as well. Predator opened in 1991 as the “9th best coaster in the world” according to some publisher but by no means has it maintained that status. One of the biggest issues that shows just how unfortunately the ride has degraded is the Holiday World trains from the Voyage and how quickly they fell into disrepair. I don’t think it took much more than one season before the second train (the B train) was cannibalized for parts. And as of this year they’ve just relabeled the train so it appears to be one of a set, which it no longer is. I give the maintenance team credit, they’re doing what they can with what they have. Darien Lake did also buy new trains for predator as I just mentioned, a new train for RoS, did some wheel replacements on Boomerang and has done some refurbishment for the viper trains as well. It’s not to say the park is perfect in how it’s handling it’s operations, but it is worth noting that on what appears to be an extremely limited budget they’re running all of their coasters in some capacity, and they’re maintaining them as best they can, even if it means taking a train out of commission to keep the ride running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ride of steel Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Defenetly, what theyre doing with the park is amazing. The new wheels on Boomerang make the back nice and smooth. Also on a slightly busy day Viper gets at least a 30 minute line, so trains will help. A ride op from Vipers 3 train operational phase says that only a few teams of ops cpuld handle 3 trains. But now Viper has a permanent crew so they might be able to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarienLaker Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Predator opened in 1991 as the “9th best coaster in the world” according to some publisher but by no means has it maintained that status. The Predator first opened in 1990 so Predator must have been ranked “9th best coaster in the world” in 1991. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SbSteveZ Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 ^ Ya got me there, looks like I was off by a year. I was close. It may be a *little* late but I just got around to uploading the 2018 edition of Ignite the Night to Youtube for all the geeks out there who may also enjoy seeing the show archived through the years (Im working on fixing 2017 and the Laser Spooktacular since thy both have copyright claims that won't allow public viewing - whoops), in the mean time, enjoy last year's main production of ignite the night! (2019 coming soon, hopefully) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjr19 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Also worth noting Six Flags is treating Viper like the flagship What do you mean by this? I’ve seen the park post multiple photos and videos of RoS on their social media accounts like crazy recently but have seen literally nothing about Viper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 A ride op from Vipers 3 train operational phase says that only a few teams of ops cpuld handle 3 trains. But now Viper has a permanent crew so they might be able to do it. Are you high right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjr19 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 A ride op from Vipers 3 train operational phase says that only a few teams of ops cpuld handle 3 trains. But now Viper has a permanent crew so they might be able to do it. Are you high right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ride of steel Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Damn can I say anything without Bill b*tching? A lot of Vipers crew has worked with Tantrum getting use to multiple train ops, and Viper like I said has its OWN crew this year, and their dispatches are the fastest in the park next to Tantrum. Keep in mind I work at SFDL. So I know whats going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAmericanKnight Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Damn can I say anything without Bill b*tching?. You do realize Coasterbill is always edgy, right? That's kinda his thing. If you don't like getting trolled then don't feed the trolls. I thought most people on the internet should know this by now. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Oh relax... But yeah, if anyone wants to make a cash bet on Viper running 3 trains, let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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