Guy T. Koepp Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Facts! Say what you will about them, but they still remain facts. Get out and ride people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Love the report Chuck! Very cool how fast that line moves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernierocker Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Great idea for a report! Looks like not only did BGW find a good replacement for Big Bad Wolf, but they also built a capacity monster! Â By the way, nice watch, Chuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted May 19, 2012 Author Share Posted May 19, 2012 ^I know a lot of people depend on their phones for the time, but I feel naked without my Seiko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philrad71 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Thanks for sharing, Chuck...this looks like an awesome ride with great capacity! I agree with others that they couldn't have came up with a more suitable replacement. Â Now I just need to figure out how I can free up the time to get down there and ride it this year! Would love to come down for the TPR event, but not sure if I will have enough vacation days left to make that trek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gisco Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 ^I know a lot of people depend on their phones for the time, but I feel naked without my Seiko. Â I had a problem with my wrist and stopped waring a watch over a year ago. It is a little inconvenient to always dig in your pocket to get the phone to check the time. Now that my wrist is better I'm looking for a watch I like to ware again. Your's looks nice Chuck or maybe it is just that sexy wrist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted May 19, 2012 Author Share Posted May 19, 2012 ^So, you have a wrist fetish, eh? Freak! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryH Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Your hairy arm is so sexy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernierocker Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 ^ Â GIFSoup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadster Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I can only imagine what they will do with 5 trains! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazywolf88 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 ^How exactly do you run five trains with a dual loading station? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skycoastin Steve Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 ^One train sits on the brakes behind the station while the two in front are loading. And you would obviously get off on the opposite end of the station from which you boarded. CP runs five trains on Maverick every now and then (which has a dual-loading station), and it still runs seamlessly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkscrewFoley Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Steve, doesn't Maverick have six trains? Â Chuck, great TR and what a simple and effective way to see how long capacity is. I gotta say 30-40 minutes is pretty damned good! Oh yeah, nice watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dailey Enterprizes Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Hey, great report of the line there Chuck. My longest wait times ever were probably the two hour wait for Phantom's Revenge opening year and Stormrunner (2 1/2 hour with breakdown) opening year. I'm thrilled that this beast moves and large capacity parks please take notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porsmond Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Skycoastin Steve - Its probably not possible, Dont forget that on Maverick, the Lift Hill can effectivly act as an extra block brake, now I havent ridden Maverick, but I'm guessing 2 trains dispatch, one goes up the lift while the other one waits at bottom, the next 2 trains that have been waiting on the brakes can then safely enter the station while there is at least always 1 train going round, and thats your 5 trains. On Verbolten, there is no lift hill, so although a duel loading station, I'm guessing both trains dispatch while one waits at the end, you then simply have 2 trains waiting on the end brakes to then come in and load/unload, and thats your 4 trains, there are some extra block brakes(The brakes/block section before the big drop near the end for example) but you dont always want the train stopping there all the time waiting for the train in front to clear just because you're trying to beat capasity by trying to run an extra train. I have experienced a bad spectacular example of this on Oblivion at Alton, It can only really operate 6 trains max safely, but in its early days, I once saw them try to operate it with 7 trains, It was a embarassing move because the ride pretty much shut down after the extra train came out and then the train was quickly taken out of service, Of course it doesnt happen again anymore. Â Of course if Verbolten can run 5 trains safely, anyone can feel free to prove me wrong, but as said dought it possible?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skycoastin Steve Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Steve, doesn't Maverick have six trains? Yes, but they don't always run six trains on it. I can't comment on recent times, but I've definitely seen them operate it with five several times. TTD has six trains, but they exclusively run five trains (although they obviously have an unloading station, unlike Maverick). Â ^I'm sure there are enough blocks to use five trains. I can think of at least 9 blocks right now without even knowing the ride system. Two blocks in the station, the pre-launch, the launch, the mid-course in the building until the drop, the drop, the launch after the drop to the bridge, the drop till the final brakes, and I'm sure there's another "staging" block from the final brakes to the station. The only reason they aren't using five trains right now is the yellow one had its incident a few weeks back and is still being repaired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalCoasters Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I'm not quite sure If the LSM launches are blocks on Verbolten... Â With Cheetah Hunt (which also uses LSMs) there's a small section of track before each launch that acts as a block. LSMs are a bit different than LIMs. LSMs (correct me if I'm wrong) need the train to be already slightly moving when it enters the launch in order for it to accelerate. They don't launch from a standstill like LIMs do. Â Sky Rocket, Cheetah Hunt, and Verbolten all have little "kickstarts" or pushes before actually hitting the launch. Looking at Verbolten it doesn't seem like there's any block breaks immediately before the first launch or after the tiny exit drop in the second launch... Â Keeping that in mind I am not sure if they can act as actual blocks on Verbolten...however in the event of a rollback, what happens? That's the one thing that sort of invalidates my theory... Â Can anyone verify whether or not they act as block breaks? Â EDIT: Upon further examination, it does appear as if both launches could act as block breaks, buit I am still curious to know whether or not they can re-launch the train from the LSM block without a kickstart... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skycoastin Steve Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 ^I would guess that drive tires are involved, although since I haven't watched the POV, I don't know if that's the case or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteornotes Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I love the "queue time" report! Cool to see that the new coaster is a capacity machine. Â dt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netdvn Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Keeping that in mind I am not sure if they can act as actual blocks on Verbolten...however in the event of a rollback, what happens? That's the one thing that sort of invalidates my theory... Can anyone verify whether or not they act as block breaks?  As far as I know, the launches only act as blocks in the case of emergencies/breakdowns. The actual blocks are the brake runs scattered throughout the ride.  I believe the ride will relaunch itself in the event of a rollback. That seems more likely to happen on the bridge than going into the event building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted May 21, 2012 Author Share Posted May 21, 2012 ^Good lord! My thread has devolved into a discussion about block brakes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI Jizzman Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Could this be the shortest ride with five trains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 With Cheetah Hunt (which also uses LSMs) there's a small section of track before each launch that acts as a block. LSMs are a bit different than LIMs. LSMs (correct me if I'm wrong) need the train to be already slightly moving when it enters the launch in order for it to accelerate. They don't launch from a standstill like LIMs do. Â LSMs can launch a train from a standstill. S:EFK is an example. Â The first launch at Verbolten looks like it definitely could be a block. If the train were to rollback it'll most likely rest on the level platform shown in the video capture. Â Source: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) Verbolten Passholder ERT Session Busch Gardens is offering Verbolten ERT to its passholders (including platinum passholders) during the month of June: Thurrsday-Friday, 9:30-10:30 am, and Saturday-Sunday, 9:00-10:00 am. This is a perk too good to pass up, so I broke my own rule and went to the park last Saturday. My usual policy is to avoid the park on Saturday because of crowds. But going there for the ERT at 9:00 Saturday morning and leaving around 1:00 pm gave me the chance to hit all the big rides with minimal waits before the real hoards come in that afternoon--as myself and a surprise guest discovered. Â Let's have at look at the Verbolten Passholder ERT session. Saturday, June 9, 8:50 am. It was quiet in the France parking lot. I was working the day watch for Theme Park Review. My partner's Bill Gannon. My name's Friday. (That's for the Dragnet fans out there, if there are any.) You need to show your pass at this checkpoint by Pompeii. By noon, this area will be jammed with people. No need to dodge strollers, ECVs, and obnoxious teenagers this time of the morning. By noon, this queue will probably be full. Just walk in the station and onto a train . . . . . . unless you want the very front (then you have to wait for a train or two). The park was running four trains and using both loading platforms. In comes the blue train . . . . . . and out goes the green. Those kids in the front row don't look too sure about this. But there's no turning back now--the Black Forest wants you! I made this drop seven . . . . . . or eight times. Saw all three "stories," too. Whee! Happy passholders posing for the camera. Hmm--you never know who you'll bump into during passholder ERT. Right, Mike? That's all for now. Edited June 13, 2012 by cfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernierocker Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 I love when parks do this for passholders. Thanks for the report, Chuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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