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P. 476: Cedar Fair sells park land, CGA to close within the next 11 years

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FINALLY!!! Construction has gone vertical!

 

Thanks for the pics AngryGumball. My family and I are in Vienna right now (hitting up Prater), but when I come back, I'll be sure to head on over to CGA mid-late August to check this out. I just can't believe this is finally happening. By 2011, I had lost all hope for this thing...but now look! Can't wait for the official announcement on the 29th, and I'm already drooling looking at that GCI wood...

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Great TR Angry_Gumball!! Au13 vertical construction looks awesome. You guys are crazy for cramming 5 people in that log... wanna try for 6? (okay probably not gonna happen).

 

Oh, and I seriously laughed so hard at the SFDK map thing. Did you troll some of the GP with that?? "Excuse me, but do you know where this coaster is? *points at Medusa* I can't find it."

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Do you guys think it will be ready by May 4th when I go next? If so, there might be a TR with a review.

 

 

^This picture was taken of Terminator under construction at about the phase Au13 is at right now. That picture was taken in January and Terminator opened in late May, so I would expect that Au13 will open in March or April. So, the coaster will most likely be open by May 4th.

 

(Photo Credit: Robb Alvey)

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Can someone explain why they are adding the giant concrete pads? Is the soil not strong enough to hold footers or is there some state regulation? I don't know that I have ever seen huge concrete pads like that under a coaster.

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This is Cedar Fair, unless a problem comes up during testing, this coaster should be open by the first day of the season.

 

I 100% agree with this... I don't see why they would have a problem opening this with the park next spring when it re-opens for 2013... I wonder if they will have a season pass preview day!?!??? How awesome would that be! Maybe wishful thinking, but this coaster is absolutely going to prompt me to buy a season pass to the park that is 10 min. from my house for the first time in something like a decade! In the past 5-ish years I have ONLY gone for Haunt [the last 2 or 3 seasons].

 

Needless to say, I can't wait!

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I remember some lady conducting interviews at the park was informing me that the ride would be open Memorial Day Weekend. How much she knew was beyond me. Reading GCI's site, their projects roughly take about 10 months, according to their FAQ:

How long does it take to build a roller coaster?

Our rides can typically be designed and built within a 10-month period, but often take longer due to permitting and other such procedures.

 

Though ground work did start late May, it could very well be ready to greet us opening day next year.

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CGA has had a good record of opening their new rides on opening day, plus since all the permits were all cleared by April and the design was ready long before all the roadblocks, with modifications of course to suit all parties, March 2013 should be the opening date.

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Can someone explain why they are adding the giant concrete pads? Is the soil not strong enough to hold footers or is there some state regulation? I don't know that I have ever seen huge concrete pads like that under a coaster.

 

Someone is very welcome to correct me if I'm seeing this wrong, but I was under the impression that the concrete slabs were simply done for ease of construction on woodies that are mostly on flat ground (as many GCIs are). One giant slab with steel connecting plates drilled into in a thousand different places is a lot easier to pour than a thousand individual small footers. Anyone care to confirm or refute?

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Someone is very welcome to correct me if I'm seeing this wrong, but I was under the impression that the concrete slabs were simply done for ease of construction on woodies that are mostly on flat ground (as many GCIs are). One giant slab with steel connecting plates drilled into in a thousand different places is a lot easier to pour than a thousand individual small footers. Anyone care to confirm or refute?

 

I honestly don't know the answer but this sounds like a logical explanation to me. Decreases the construction time which saves money.

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Can someone explain why they are adding the giant concrete pads? Is the soil not strong enough to hold footers or is there some state regulation? I don't know that I have ever seen huge concrete pads like that under a coaster.

 

Someone is very welcome to correct me if I'm seeing this wrong, but I was under the impression that the concrete slabs were simply done for ease of construction on woodies that are mostly on flat ground (as many GCIs are). One giant slab with steel connecting plates drilled into in a thousand different places is a lot easier to pour than a thousand individual small footers. Anyone care to confirm or refute?

 

Is it also more stable this way?

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Can someone explain why they are adding the giant concrete pads? Is the soil not strong enough to hold footers or is there some state regulation? I don't know that I have ever seen huge concrete pads like that under a coaster.

 

Someone is very welcome to correct me if I'm seeing this wrong, but I was under the impression that the concrete slabs were simply done for ease of construction on woodies that are mostly on flat ground (as many GCIs are). One giant slab with steel connecting plates drilled into in a thousand different places is a lot easier to pour than a thousand individual small footers. Anyone care to confirm or refute?

 

Is it also more stable this way?

 

I would assume so, but that could be just me.

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It does indeed make it more stable, but with this coaster they are doing a combination of footer and slabs. Im not really sure why they didn't use one giant slab, my only guess is that they could work on the coaster at different stages faster and not have to wait forever for the concrete to cure.

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I remember some lady conducting interviews at the park was informing me that the ride would be open Memorial Day Weekend. How much she knew was beyond me. Reading GCI's site, their projects roughly take about 10 months, according to their FAQ:
How long does it take to build a roller coaster?

Our rides can typically be designed and built within a 10-month period, but often take longer due to permitting and other such procedures.

 

Though ground work did start late May, it could very well be ready to greet us opening day next year.

I think construction is going to be much faster then we expect, like S:UF

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It does indeed make it more stable, but with this coaster they are doing a combination of footer and slabs. I'm not really sure why they didn't use one giant slab, my only guess is that they could work on the coaster at different stages faster and not have to wait forever for the concrete to cure.

 

I think this also has to do with the level of the ground. The "Prudential Turn" sits much higher than the "drumstick" pad (which I hear from one of my sources that it's now cemented in). The footers joining the 2 pads appear to be in a stair-shape. SFMM's Apocalypse is pretty much on level ground therefore probably can be built on 1 big pad.

 

I was checking out Knight Valley's GCI terrain coaster and noticed some similarities in the footer setup:

While it still appears to be 1 solid slab it is not flat due to the slope it sits on. This is just a guess/observation.

 

Something similar appears to be showing up with this, between the pads:

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I was thinking about the slab setup earlier and before reading this thread, I was guessing that maybe it's quicker/more cost-efficient to do the slab setup. Again, just a guess. And also guessing because we're in earth quake country would be another reason why.

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CGA is finally getting some love..for years this has been Cedar Fair's most neglected park...God, If owned Cedar Fair, before I even THINK of bringing a new ride to Cedar Point, I'd give Great America a complete facelift. And by "facelift" I mean 220 ft tall 85mph Intamin Hyper, 7 inversion B&M Wing Rider, better scenery, SPOTLESS paths.

 

I live no where near CGA, but I've always wanted to go there. I always saw potential in that place.

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