laqueefa Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Most of the rides that will utilize fast lane have had either separate entrances built completely from scratch (Vortex and Demon), or have modified other parts of unused queue lines or exits to accommodate for this. What I like about Cedar Fair's version is it is more like Disney and they will be merging the fast lane with the stand-by entrance, versus Six Flags where most of the Flash Pass rides just use the exit and let people right one which I don't think is right. On the subject of Vortex, it's really not a bad coaster, just short and could use some serious train work. I've had some spectacular rides on it and some pretty awful ones as well, it really depends on the condition of the train. When the train is locked in and running well, that is a kick A$$ little ride. Personally, I have never had a decent ride on Vortex. It maybe due to my height, but I want to have kids some day so I avoid it at all costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibbler Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Would fast-passes still be sold during Haunt? From the TRs I've seen, it looks like all the coasters get long lines during that season! The entire park gets packed during Haunt (We sold out park capacity last season) As far as the fastlane, stay tuned to the site closer to Haunt for those details. As to Vortex, not sure where that rumor started, but it just had a second queue line added for the fastlane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XYZ Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Most of the rides that will utilize fast lane have had either separate entrances built completely from scratch (Vortex and Demon), or have modified other parts of unused queue lines or exits to accommodate for this. What I like about Cedar Fair's version is it is more like Disney and they will be merging the fast lane with the stand-by entrance, versus Six Flags where most of the Flash Pass rides just use the exit and let people right one which I don't think is right. That's definitely not the case at SFDK. When they got Lo-Q they modified most the entrances and hired attendants to merge Flash Pass users into the normal queue. Before then they did just let everyone skip the line, but now everyone kind of caught on that that was a bad idea. I agree it's useful on busy days, but I just don't see a significant ROI when the majority of the days probably won't see a lot of sales. Maybe when the park starts adding some more major rides again and attendance returns to what it was 10 to 12 years ago, then it will be useful. On the subject of Vortex, it's really not a bad coaster, just short and could use some serious train work. I've had some spectacular rides on it and some pretty awful ones as well, it really depends on the condition of the train. When the train is locked in and running well, that is a kick A$$ little ride. I agree, I have really good rides on Vortex. The problem is it could be a good or bad ride. I tend to stick my head forward to try to relieve the headbanging. I think that B&M really needs to release new stand-up trains to replace the ones right now, and they can make some money on selling it to the parks that have horrible stand-up trains, like Vekoma's new trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
154bmag Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I've never had a smooth ride on Vortex. I have had some rides that are better then other, but never a smooth one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmcdllr Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I always have enmity rides on it, its the loose seats that bash my head into the restraints that is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygator Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 (edited) I agree it's useful on busy days, but I just don't see a significant ROI when the majority of the days probably won't see a lot of sales. Lo-Q pays for and builds the infrastructure. Investment is minimal for the park. The park reconfigures a few queues, posts some signage, trains and staffs a few employees. The park gets a cut of the revenue. And what do patrons do when they are not waiting in line for rides? They shop, eat and play games providing incremental revenue. Remember the typical theme park visitor is quite different from the typical enthusiast. CGA might not be the ideal park for Lo-Q, outside of busy weekends and special events, but CP should strive for consistency across the chain. Edited March 22, 2012 by larrygator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XYZ Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I know it gives the park more revenue, but I really hate these Flash Pass-style systems. One of the reason I like Cedar Fair was because its parks had no cutting line systems as whenever I go to SFDK, Flash Pass always bothers me, constantly makes me late for shows, and really lowers my total experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmcdllr Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I always have smooth rides on it, its the loose seats that bash my head into the restraints that is the problem. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechanic Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I know it gives the park more revenue, but I really hate these Flash Pass-style systems. One of the reason I like Cedar Fair was because its parks had no cutting line systems as whenever I go to SFDK, Flash Pass always bothers me, constantly makes me late for shows, and really lowers my total experience. Sounds like a good reason to buy a Flash Pass, or Fast Lane pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry_Gumball Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I'm not sure what the standard protocol is for the virtual queue systems but I do recall during the TPR event, having a Q-bot/Flash Pass user come up through the exit as I was the next in line. The FP user took the row I was to get seated in for that cycle. After they boarded, then the air gates opened and everyone else next in line got on. Was a bit irritating but it was only 1 more cycle. If I had read these right, these fast pass users supposed to merge with the rest at the station through a special entry point. I noticed Medusa has an entry just to the front of the station, and I believe V2 has one just before the stairs coming up to the station (which was the ride I got Flash Passed out of a seat for that cycle). I guess we'll see how it all comes together once the season gets rolling, and we'll see how many people attempt to abuse the system (and look like a complete idiot in the process) if that's even possible. As much as I don't like the idea of having someone snag my seat, I look at the long term of things. If it's going to help the park financially then I'm all for it. As much as I will most likely never use it, I don't mind seeing the park being able to bring in some revenue because in the end, a higher income can lead to a successful park and new opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolercstrluvr Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Who thinks I should ride Top Gun at Great America all day on opening day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromithere Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Who thinks I should ride Top Gun at Great America all day on opening day? I think you should do Coasting for Kids instead and ride it all day continuously in June and raise some money for a good cause in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry_Gumball Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 You know, that is tempting...it's a win-win...ride your favorite coaster and help kids out in the process...all without having to use Fast Lane (as much as it's only for 1 ride). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromithere Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Personally I am sold on the idea and will be signing up for it this weekend. Why the heck not? It looks like not that many people participated at Great America last year from what I have seen. Hopefully we can make a showing here this year and raise some money and awareness. ...and of course have some fun in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolercstrluvr Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I'm already signed up, I'm just doing it for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggernel Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Personally I am sold on the idea and will be signing up for it this weekend. Why the heck not? It looks like not that many people participated at Great America last year from what I have seen. Hopefully we can make a showing here this year and raise some money and awareness. ...and of course have some fun in the process. We only had about 8 people at Valleyfair! last year, but it was still a great event. The lunch was decent (I'm sure it varies by park) and the T-Shirt was high quality. If you are even thinking about doing the event, seriously go for it! Plus with smaller crowds, you have a better chance to win the prizes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal1br3tto Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I have been known to completely contradict myself going into too much detail, so I'll try to simplify my verdict on Vortex: decently thrilling, but rough. I used to rate it pretty highly, but nowadays I realize it's nothing too special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I'm already signed up, I'm just doing it for fun. Join team TPR and post your link in the thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjsharkattack10 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 hey guys I signed for coasting for kids at CGA. Any donation counts and it would mean alot to not only me but the kids : ) www.firstgiving.com/fundraiser/chrisayala/CaliforniasGreatAmerica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolercstrluvr Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 (edited) I'm officially registered for Coasting for kids 2012, help support me in my journey https://www.firstgiving.com/fundraiser/rolercstrluvr/CaliforniasGreatAmerica Edited March 24, 2012 by Jew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 (edited) ^Welcome to team TPR! Edited March 24, 2012 by Jew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolercstrluvr Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 ^ Glad to be a part of a great team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry_Gumball Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Rain still threatening, depending on what news site/channel you check. I've seen from light rain to thunder storms so who knows. Who's still planning on hitting up opening day? I'm going to attempt it and hope for the best. I can live with a drizzle or a couple passing showers. Just don't know if the park will close prematurely as I expect crowds to be light this first weekend, even lighter if rain threatens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robman Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 (edited) It seems like the rain isn't as bad as the various news stations were making it sound like. Im in San Jose which is about 20 minutes from the park. All the rain we had today was a few light sprinkles. So im expecting the weather to be about the same tomorrow, no matter what I will be at opening day wearing my TPR shirt and most likely a hoodie that says "Internet Killed Television". Edited March 24, 2012 by robman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry_Gumball Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 ^nice avatar! Yea, it's been like that in Hayward too, also about 25 minutes north from the park.A very light rain, enough to get you wet if you stayed out without an umbrella long enough. And I'm hearing that showers are likely tomorrow. Meaning we could see some sun trying to peek through. If I happen to make it, I will most likely be sporting a Haunt hoodie, and TPR shirt. It has been a little colder however so the hoodie will be a must. I just love iPhone's autocorrect feature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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