Walt Disney World Epcot Discussion Thread

[ParkTrips]

Yea absolutely I'm just taking a not-really-educated educated guess here

 

It's a shame because the ride is pretty good as it is but business is business and you don't want a $100 mil ride being abandoned completely by the guests (as it was the lines were really friggin short last month!) so I guess we may see the end of "full throttle" Mission Space.

[Three]

I'm sure someone will try to blame Intamin for this.

 

You said that last time somebody died on Mission: Space.

[maliboomer]

What the fudge is going to happen to M:S now...

[kelmikey]

I cannot go on any ride that spins you round and round, not a carousel nor a playground wheel, makes me feel too much beer room spinny nauseous. The only reason I went on M:S was because I didn't realise that there was a centrifuge involved. Came off it looking a little paler than I usually do, needed to sit down and regroup my mind for a bit. But you can't criticise the owners for not warning you. I haven't ever been on a ride where there are more warnings about the consequences of what is about to happen. I hope they leave it alone.

[turlaach]

About the 4 year old, what kind of evil parent takes their child on a thrill ride that intense AT 4???? And they also had a condition. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MISSION SPACE!!!

[CoasterJunkie]

According to the Orlando Sentinal article I just read, she did have a pre-existing condition. The fact she was German and may not have read the signs, or not have known...who knows..

 

My fear..what will be the fate of M:S now as someone had said earlier.

 

Link to the other article with more detail..http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-disney1306apr13,0,5331604.story?coll=orl-home-promo

[Imhotep]

^^My little one rode Mission Space at 5, and it was completely his choice. We were actually reluctant to let him on, but he insisted, and we knew he didnt have any pre existing medical conditions so we decided to let him ride. If he did however, we would have had to break his heart and not let him.

 

It had been a while since we had initially rode it (it was before the 4 year old died), and the ride seemed like it had been toned down. Im not sure if it really was or if I have just aquired more of a tolerance to g forces. But anyway, it seemed much more tame and reridable than before.

[JT3000]

I blame NASA.

 

And Disney, for not doing something the first time. Pre-existing condition or not, this thing is fatally triggering them at an alarming rate. There's a problem here.

 

The first time, the autopsy sugguested the boy died of natural causes.

 

He had a heart condition that was strained by the ride.

[RCoasterny]

Have we heard of anyone die on a normally operating Rotor? How many G's does it pull? I know that Mission Space pulls 2 G's which is probably less than a Rotor, Gravitron, or a Huss Take Off (they produce 6 G's!). What about a Chance Skywheel where you do outside looping?

[SharkTums]

Again, you have to remember that even with the 'short' lines that Mission: Space has, it still puts through SOOOOO many people that it's more likely to have an accident than some random roundup.

 

I don't think it pulls anymore G's than most rides, if anything, I think it's Gary Sinise's fault. He hypes up the ride so much and scares people so that their heart is racing, then you ride the ride and it's really not that bad! Come on, even I can ride it multiple times!

[coasterguy618]

Why are all these people dying on Misson: Space? Is it really that bad?

[socalMAN123]

I don't think it is Disney's fault because the four year old and the 49 year old chose to go on it, knowing they had a condition and might be risking their life. No one can sue or take out a ride for two deaths caused by themselves and by their families. I say they should not get mad at Disney, but get mad at themselves for making stupid desicions. Throughout the line, Disney gives proper warnings to people with certain conditions and things. They chose to go on it, so they shouldn't be able to do anything about it. I mean, if I had some wierd condition like they had, and knowing that this ride would hurt me, and still went on it anyway, I would call myself extremely foolish.

---Brent

[ChrisZer0]

I dont hold disney responsible in the matter, I hold individuals who made poor choices responsible for their own demise.

[alpengeist04]

I don't think it is Disney's fault because the four year old and the 49 year old chose to go on it, knowing they had a condition and might be risking their life. No one can sue or take out a ride for two deaths caused by themselves and by their families.

---Brent

 

Since when has that stopped people from suing, welcome to America-the land of the lawsuit.

[DenDen]

OK, my opinion here is kinda far fetch, since I've never experienced this ride/queue myself...

 

Could part of the problem be that many people don't actually know what the ride is? We as enthusiasts know it's a centrifuge. But because of Disney magic, I'd assume the GP doesn't know. (I dunno the set up, not sure if it's obvious once you're ready to board the ride...) With this scenerio, many people would ride it, thinking it's just a dark ride/motion sim, but if they knew what it was, less people would ride it, especially those who wouldn't never go near these kind of rides.

 

Just a thought.

[SharkTums]

I think it's pretty obvious that it's a spinning centerfuge, they show the thing spinning on one of the 37 warnings you have to pass before riding. Again though, we're giving people too much credit. They're on vacation, they don't pay attention, read, listen, anything!

 

How much more can Disney do? The warnings for that ride are INSANE!

[Wes]

I think it's Gary Sinise's fault.

 

How dare you. Take it back. Take it back right now.

[turlaach]

^^My little one rode Mission Space at 5, and it was completely his choice. We were actually reluctant to let him on, but he insisted, and we knew he didnt have any pre existing medical conditions so we decided to let him ride. If he did however, we would have had to break his heart and not let him.

 

It had been a while since we had initially rode it (it was before the 4 year old died), and the ride seemed like it had been toned down. Im not sure if it really was or if I have just aquired more of a tolerance to g forces. But anyway, it seemed much more tame and reridable than before.

 

Well, I guess if you know he has no condition and can handle those kind of Gs then thats fine!

[DerekRx]

Maybe they should start requiring people to take physicals while in line for the ride. Sucks that someone died AGAIN so soon, but I have a feeling the ride is not to blame, other than a pre-existing condition that the lady didn't pay attention to.

 

Oh, and I blame Intamin because they didn't build the ride, and if they did, this would have never happened!

[Carnage]

^ That's not a bad idea. Some of the mascots already have experience, so they can be the one's asking you to cough.

[RCoasterny]

You've brought up a good point. I think the warning posted on the ride has become more of a generic warning found on ANY ride today. The precautionary warnings found on a wooden roller coaster would probably be also found on a carousel. Also those warning signs are treated at the same level as a software licensing agreement that you have to click on the "Agree" button before installing it. Do you take the time to read the entire SLA before installing it? I usually don't, as it has become very generic.

 

 

Also, at Epcot, Test Track and Mission Space are the only 2 thrill rides at the park, while the rest of the park are just people movers past scenery and theaters. Since the majority of the park are gentle rides, people are led to believe that Mission: Space is just another gentle ride. Maybe they should put a sign up on every door that leads to the capsules that says in big bold letters: "Did you read the warnings about this ride?"

[gmoney422]

^^^^Yeah, imagine this,

 

"Welcome to Mission: Space! Could you please turn and cough. Thank you. Now please head over there and provide us a sample in this official Mission: Space pee cup, which you can take with you as a souvenier (if you survive the ride!)!"

 

G "turn & cough" Money

[disneygurlz2s]

^^ LOL

 

I feel like a broken record, but I totally agree that people simply have to be responsible for themselves. After everything I have read about the ride, I had already decided I would pass on this attraction when I visit the park this summer. I doubt I would DIE, but the chance I could end up not feeling well and spoiling my trip is just not worth it.

 

My opinion is that people assume that all Disney attractions are "It's A Small World" and that's no longer the case.

 

Shari "People: read the guidebook" Shoufler

[SharkTums]

And now it's turned into: "Is this Disney Ride Deadly?"

 

http://articles.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20060413002409990004&ncid=NWS00010000000001

 

Woman Dies After Ride at Disney's Epcot Center

 

LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. (April 13) - A second person in less than a year died Wednesday after going on a ride at Walt Disney World so intense that it has motion sickness bags.

 

People wait in line for the "Mission: Space" ride at Walt Disney World's Epcot Center in 2003. Two people -- a 49-year-old woman and a 4-year-old boy -- have died in the last year after going on the ride.

 

The 49-year-old woman became ill after riding "Mission: Space" on Tuesday. She was taken to a hospital, where she died, park spokeswoman Kim Prunty said in a statement. No more information on the woman would be released Wednesday night, she said.

 

The ride has been closed, and a state agency will monitor an inspection, Prunty said.

 

 

 

Disney officials told state inspectors Wednesday that the woman felt dizzy and nauseated after the ride and may have had high blood pressure and other health problems, said Terence McElroy, a spokesman for the department that oversees the ride-monitoring agency.

 

The $100 million ride, one of Disney World's most popular, was closed in June after the death of a 4-year-old boy who passed out while aboard. An autopsy concluded he died of a heart condition that a medical examiner said can cause sudden death in stressful situations.

 

The ride reopened after company engineers concluded it was operating normally.

 

"Mission: Space" spins riders in a centrifuge that subjects them to twice the normal force of gravity. Some riders have been taken to the hospital with chest pain.

 

 

04/13/06 00:22 EDT

[viking86]

Its definately not Disney's fault as the ride is perfectly safe if you look at the number of riders. But I won't blame the individuals who lost their lives either, because they might not have known about their medical condition. So calling them stupid and saying that they didn't care about the warning signs is very wrong in my opinion when you dont know the entire story. It could be just a horrible accident where no one is to blame.

 

Either way its a sad story...