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Mine Ride sucks, I wouldn't bat an eye if they removed it. It's on prime expansion space too

 

It's a great ride for family's....even though the height requirement is 48 inches for some reason. Every coaster can't be 100 mph and 500 feet tall.

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Mine ride COULD be a great family ride, but by the time most kids are tall enough to ride, they consider it tame (when they’re also tall enough to ride MF and Magnum) and adults are too big to ride comfortably. I’d only be for a re-do if brand new trains were added, the height restriction were lowered to 42” or lower, and some pretty dramatic theme elements were added. Otherwise, rip it out and install a brand new true family ride. As an Arrow lover and enthusiast with an appreciation for history, I want it to stay. But in its current state, Mine Ride is just not super useful to the park.

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So that appears to be CCMR with 5 trains before a shed was built over the transfer/storage? It seems a little odd that they would tease adding capacity back to a ride that surely doesn't need it? This and the "Kings Island" teaser poster both refer to the 6919 site, which is probably CCMR (1969 and 2019). The thing I found interesting about the "Kings Island" poster but didn't post anything was that it mentioned paleontology. My mind immediately went to Dinos Alive, but Dinos is a long way from SoB's station. Dinos is definitely close enough to CCMR to be part of the same project...

 

I don't know what any of it means obviously...just kinda thinking out loud. I doubt CP would really have much interest in adding a train to CCMR though.

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Jesus, I know I posted about crowds before but it’s getting even crazier. This is great to see after that earnings report:

 

5 rides are posting at 2+ hours, Raptor is at 1 1/2 hours, every other coaster is between 30 and 45 minutes (except Rougarou, lol) as are Maxair and Power Tower.

 

Damn, go Cedar Point. These are Halloweekends level crowds.

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I like CCMR for the memories, I'll still ride it occasionally, but it's not a super thrilling ride. The height requirement is pretty ridiculous. I can remember as a kid, parents were allowed to bring real young kids on the ride as long as they held on to them. That ended when someone let go of their kid and he fell out sustaining some injuries. Whoops!

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Jesus, I know I posted about crowds before but it’s getting even crazier. This is great to see after that earnings report:

 

5 rides are posting at 2+ hours, Raptor is at 1 1/2 hours, every other coaster is between 30 and 45 minutes (except Rougarou, lol) as are Maxair and Power Tower.

 

Damn, go Cedar Point. These are Halloweekends level crowds.

 

Wow what a change from this past week. Was there wednesday and most rides were 30 mins or less. Only long lines were for SV and Maverick.

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Jesus, I know I posted about crowds before but it’s getting even crazier. This is great to see after that earnings report:

 

5 rides are posting at 2+ hours, Raptor is at 1 1/2 hours, every other coaster is between 30 and 45 minutes (except Rougarou, lol) as are Maxair and Power Tower.

 

Damn, go Cedar Point. These are Halloweekends level crowds.

 

I’m just hoping it won’t be that crowded the last Sunday and Monday of August. It will be my first time going to CP since 2014.

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Jesus, I know I posted about crowds before but it’s getting even crazier. This is great to see after that earnings report:

 

5 rides are posting at 2+ hours, Raptor is at 1 1/2 hours, every other coaster is between 30 and 45 minutes (except Rougarou, lol) as are Maxair and Power Tower.

 

Damn, go Cedar Point. These are Halloweekends level crowds.

 

I’m just hoping it won’t be that crowded the last Sunday and Monday of August. It will be my first time going to CP since 2014.

 

If its anything like this pasr Monday, crowds weren't that bad. I got there at 9am and managed 2 rides on Gatekeeper, a ride on MaxAir and Wicked Twister all by a little after 10.

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^August is the best month of the year, that's why! (Me saying that has NOTHING to do with my Birthday being this month! )

 

In regard to CCMR, it was my first favorite roller coaster ever, way back in the early 80's, and I'm certainly appreciative of its place in CP lore. However, its time has come and gone, in my opinion, and I've been hoping for years now for its removal, and the opening up of plenty of room for a large addition there. My kids don't even care much about riding it anymore, and as somebody else mentioned, it's SUPER uncomfortable for a grown adult to even fit in those trains. There are better Mine Train Coasters elsewhere, and again, it's just space better used for something else...

 

Like a family friendly, wooden, GCI coaster like Mystic Timbers! Heck, you can even theme it to a mine, or call it New Cedar Creek Mine Ride, or whatever! There's plenty of room for a decent sized one too, with the CCMR footprint, and the old Shoot the Rapids area on the island. Add in the outgoing Dinosaurs Alive area too, perhaps, for some cool interaction with MF. I know some are calling for CCMR's replacement to be a family coaster, but honestly, there is plenty for families to do already at CP (believe me, as a family man of a large family myself, I can speak to this), and I would consider a fun, but not extreme woodie, like Mystic Timbers to be a family friendly attraction. Honestly, back in that Frontier Town/Trail area, is really the only place I think a wooden coaster like this fits well, since as much as it'd be cool, I really don't ever foresee a Beach Boardwalk woodie near GateKeeper.

 

I do suspect that if we see a new coaster in place of CCMR, it'll be a 2020 addition, with either its "Farewell Season" next year on its 50th Anniversary, or having it close this year, with land clearing and prep next year (similar to SV). I'd guess the former, personally. I've heard a few other interesting things from sources that I would not consider on the level of the Dippin' Dots guy (not in reference to CCMR though), but I suspect that anything stemming from those tidbits would be on a smaller scale.

 

Of course, I think this could all just be a humorous troll job by Cedar Fair, too! I guess we'll know a little more before too long, likely, as CF announcement season is fast approaching!

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Jesus, I know I posted about crowds before but it’s getting even crazier. This is great to see after that earnings report:

 

5 rides are posting at 2+ hours, Raptor is at 1 1/2 hours, every other coaster is between 30 and 45 minutes (except Rougarou, lol) as are Maxair and Power Tower.

 

Damn, go Cedar Point. These are Halloweekends level crowds.

Managed to catch Rougarou at 30 minutes today on the app... so proud of myself (and Rougarou )

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^ It's at 45 minutes right now. Freakin insane!

 

Thats crazy. I can't remember it being ever more then a couple of train wait. This past wednesday it was a walk on all day.

 

For those that complain about the crowds the best time to go is during the week.

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^ It's at 45 minutes right now. Freakin insane!

 

Thats crazy. I can't remember it being ever more then a couple of train wait. This past wednesday it was a walk on all day.

 

For those that complain about the crowds the best time to go is during the week.

 

You think that's crazy? I remember in its early years, waiting an hour for WT!

 

For those that complain about the crowds, the best time to go IS during the week... before June! I enjoyed sub-hour waits for SV, and near walk-ons for everything else!

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^ It's at 45 minutes right now. Freakin insane!

 

Thats crazy. I can't remember it being ever more then a couple of train wait. This past wednesday it was a walk on all day.

 

For those that complain about the crowds the best time to go is during the week.

 

You think that's crazy? I remember in its early years, waiting an hour for WT!

 

For those that complain about the crowds, the best time to go IS during the week... before June! I enjoyed sub-hour waits for SV, and near walk-ons for everything else!

 

Thats why I usually go the week before Memorial day Weekend. Breakers is cheaper then and the park isn't as busy.

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How does the place tend to be on Sundays? I figure most people would be leaving Sunday after a Friday-Saturday sort of trip (which is what I made the mistake of doing last time).

 

Typically not quite as jammed up as a busy Saturday but probably still crowded by weekday standards. I've gone on some regular summer Sundays thinking that maybe weekend vacationers would be heading home, but each time it was fairly busy.

 

A few Sundays coming up might be a different story once most kids are back in school. There's usually a little pocket toward the end of August where all days except Saturday tend to be pretty good times to visit the park.

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With CCMR teaser poster, the #5 car is upside-down... suspended woodie confirmed!

 

But for real, could the 5 in the diagram be a 5 part expansion plan? Maverick, Professor Delbert's Frontier Fling, SV, could be parts 1-3 or a 5 part master plan to reinvigorate the back of the park? And all 5 having a Cedar Creek Mining Company theme/story tying them together? Granted, PDFF doesn't really fit the "story" but has been very recently moved and incorporated nicely into the Frontier Trail part of the park.

 

To continue the agument that CP is running out of room (which they are not, cough cough) CCMR does have a lot of wasted space. They could easily put a family coaster AND thrill coaster in that area. Think Taron and Raik at Phantasialand, two coasters interwoven to make one awesome area. It "could" happen...

 

All of that to say, CP is really making some great overall improvements to the park, and I'm excited for the next several years to see what's next!

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The CCMR teases are a bit strange. I kind of think they're just hinting at new trains (likely with individual lap bars so as to reduce the height restriction) and cosmetic upgrades, but is there really any need to have five trains? Do the queues warrant this (even bearing in mind new trains will open the ride up to a larger audience)?

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Mine Ride sucks, I wouldn't bat an eye if they removed it. It's on prime expansion space too

 

It's a great ride for family's....even though the height requirement is 48 inches for some reason. Every coaster can't be 100 mph and 500 feet tall.

 

Even by family coaster standards, Mine Ride is awful. I don't get why people immediately equate "taking out a sucky mine train" to "replacing all the family friendly rides with x t r e m e t h r i l l s"

 

There are tons of other family friendly coasters that would utilize that space better than CCMR. It has the same height requirement as Millennium Force and is on probably the best expansion space CP has. A smaller GCI like InvadR, or even just a less sucky mine train (although that won't happen) would be great there. It's not blasphemous (is it???) to think that even for a family coaster CCMR is laughably bad.

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