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Actually, once the pictures showing the new angle of the hill started coming out, it seemed like a real possibility to me that there may well be a pre-drop section something like Lightning Rod. With the new angle, it looks like they could add some height and have space to do a Lightning Rod-esque element to give the drop some real pop. This is just what came to my mind weeks ago when the pics started cropping up...

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So it looks like based off of those photos, the lift hill track will go right into where the old overbank used to be. You can calculate the height of that overbank by knowing the total height of the structure and the time that the train takes to get to the top of the lift as well as the time that it takes to get to the overbank section (ends up being around 90 feet or so). Let's say the new lift is 45° (hard to tell from the image but either 45 or a little less). The old mean streak lift hill was almost exactly 30°. Now, if we assume that the top of the new ride will be directly above the top of the new ride, you can calculate the new ride to be around 205 - 215 feet tall. The only questions that can alter that number is how steep the lift really is, and when the lift will stop going up. So don't at all rule out a 200 foot coaster (CP loves 200 foot coasters). Personally I believe that they will go over 200 because otherwise it'll be so close that it'd be a missed opportunity to add even more bragging rights to the most coasters above 200 feet lol

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Hyper woodie?

 

200 feet doesn't look likely here.

 

Yeah, they are obviously making the lift steeper so they have room to add a pre-drop section

 

Just because they're adding height to the lift does not in any way mean that it's going to be 200 feet tall. Is it possible, sure. Is it likely? I would say no, but we can debate that... but you're making a big leap here.

 

I was kidding. None of us know what will happen until it is announced. Except Tony, of course

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It would be nice to see a storm chaser type drop implemted.

 

Same.

 

I know most enthusiasts don't like the inverting drops because they "take away the extreme ejector time" But it's like they fail to remember there's an entire rest of the coaster filled with extreme ejector time after the first drop.

 

That being said, I highly doubt we will see an inverting drop, unless the are going to go higher and try to market it as "the world's tallest inversion."

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It would be nice to see a storm chaser type drop implemted.

 

Same.

 

I know most enthusiasts don't like the inverting drops because they "take away the extreme ejector time" But it's like they fail to remember there's an entire rest of the coaster filled with extreme ejector time after the first drop.

 

That being said, I highly doubt we will see an inverting drop, unless the are going to go higher and try to market it as "the world's tallest inversion."

 

Lol if they did that then correct me if I'm wrong but I think that they'd have the world's three highest inversions all at the same park.

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It would be nice to see a storm chaser type drop implemted.

 

Same.

 

I know most enthusiasts don't like the inverting drops because they "take away the extreme ejector time" But it's like they fail to remember there's an entire rest of the coaster filled with extreme ejector time after the first drop.

 

That being said, I highly doubt we will see an inverting drop, unless the are going to go higher and try to market it as "the world's tallest inversion."

I have to say yea for the most park inverted drops arnt as fun as traditional drops but can still be fun in its own way. On a slightly different note however I have to say shallow curved drops are kind of lame....I know this is nothing to do with the Cedar Point RMC but im talking about coaster drops in general. Take Kumba for example while the inversions are fun the drop is just sad....yet i hear people still scream on those type of drops....to me those are the most disappointing drops. Im sure if the curved drops was super steep that would be a different story.

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^Curved drops on B&M inverts are amazing though, since in the back they're really forceful and they have a great whip to them! In fact, if Raptor had a more curvy drop, Then it would probably beat Afterburn in my rankings. With the floorless and sit-downs I agree though. They're pretty weak, except for Dominator's, for example, which is steep and has a bit of the B&M invert whip.

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^Curved drops on B&M inverts are amazing though, since in the back they're really forceful and they have a great whip to them! In fact, if Raptor had a more curvy drop, Then it would probably beat Afterburn in my rankings. With the floorless and sit-downs I agree though. They're pretty weak, except for Dominator's, for example, which is steep and has a bit of the B&M invert whip.

And Kumba's because Kumba.

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It would be nice to see a storm chaser type drop implemted.

 

Same.

 

I know most enthusiasts don't like the inverting drops because they "take away the extreme ejector time" But it's like they fail to remember there's an entire rest of the coaster filled with extreme ejector time after the first drop.

 

That being said, I highly doubt we will see an inverting drop, unless the are going to go higher and try to market it as "the world's tallest inversion."

 

Oh god, please no. That drop is the worst part of Medusa's layout. And the second worst of Storm Chaser's (that final helix is ).

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^ Very much so, but unfortunately hearing the 'scream' right in your ear in the back row on the lift hill is not too pleasant.

 

And the rattle on the end seats of the back row...

 

should I hide now?

 

When we rode Banshee in the back row it felt like we were riding on a jackhammer with square wheels. It was honestly a completely unenjoyable ride and the only rough ride I've ever experienced on a B&M invert. I wouldn't call it a rattle, it was a flat out rough ride. Is that typical? I just brushed it off as a bad wheel since it felt a lot like Nitro does when it needs a wheel replaced (and they don't replace it for 6 months). Every other ride we had was butter smooth but we were always grouped into the front few rows since we had Fastlane and they drew from that line first so I never got a second ride in the back.

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Every ride I've had on Banshee in the last row has varying degrees of roughness that isn't present at all in the front. That said, it doesn't ruin the ride at all for me and I'm still not sure if I prefer the front or back, roughness included. It's more intense in the back and it feels even more raw, in a way. It's unfortunate but it's not so bad that it should prevent you from riding row 8 because I think the back is phenomenal.

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It would be nice to see a storm chaser type drop implemted.

 

I'd love to see a barrel roll drop on New Mean Streak, but somewhere mid-course. Keep the first big drop traditional. Best of both worlds.

 

This is exactly what I was going to say. They'll most likely have plenty of room and height to do it!

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