GnastyGnoric7 Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 As long as Top Thrill 2 pulls people away from Maverick, Steel Vengeance, and Raptor, I really don't care about the stats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_s3_ Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 LSMs by nature consume a lot less energy than LIMs do, as they only generate the necessary magnetic current needed relative to the trains speed via the stators which react with the permanent magnets mounted on the trains themselves. LIMs on the other hand use the magnets externally mounted on the track and send a constant current needed for the "ideal" speed, and the trains themselves don't have magnets, but metal fins that react to the magnets on the track. LIMs are extremely inefficient, energy wise, and also generate a massive amount of heat which requires additional systems (fans or other) to cool down the LIMs. LSM development has pretty much put LIMs into extinction, for good reason. Due to the removal of WT and TTD, which required a very large power draw to run the hydraulics, and only adding a larger LSM system, I would assume that the overall energy draw will be significantly less. Side note, it wasn't until yesterday that I realized Intamin offers a new-age Impulse coaster using their new track style and LSMs. The only example of this is an upscaled, new-era WT clone: Legendary Twin Dragon in China 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasternut Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 ^ Thanks for the info on LIM / LSM. I didn't know the difference other than the spelling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunder Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 @_s3_ thanks for that. I was aware LSMs were less power hungry than LIMs, but not to what degree. I've heard crazy things about LIMs like every ride cycle of Wicked Twister cost $50 in electricity - I'd love to know if that's true - if you extrapolate that into a seasonal cost, it's a hell of a lot for a non-marquee ride. And I've also heard if they ran both sides of Chiller at GAdv at the same time, it could take out the grid lol. I'm sure Cedar Fair would have done a business/cost benefit case for a large piece of capital expenditure like this with operating costs being one component. I'm sceptical it will go all the way up the spike, but I guess we'll see next year. Will be fun if it does, still fun if it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prozach626 Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 On 8/4/2023 at 10:57 AM, _s3_ said: LSMs by nature consume a lot less energy than LIMs do, as they only generate the necessary magnetic current needed relative to the trains speed via the stators which react with the permanent magnets mounted on the trains themselves. LIMs on the other hand use the magnets externally mounted on the track and send a constant current needed for the "ideal" speed, and the trains themselves don't have magnets, but metal fins that react to the magnets on the track. LIMs are extremely inefficient, energy wise, and also generate a massive amount of heat which requires additional systems (fans or other) to cool down the LIMs. LSM development has pretty much put LIMs into extinction, for good reason. Due to the removal of WT and TTD, which required a very large power draw to run the hydraulics, and only adding a larger LSM system, I would assume that the overall energy draw will be significantly less. Side note, it wasn't until yesterday that I realized Intamin offers a new-age Impulse coaster using their new track style and LSMs. The only example of this is an upscaled, new-era WT clone: Legendary Twin Dragon in China But, they don't sound as cool. Like a 4 cylinder Mustang vs. v8 Coyote..... Dead serious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haymaker Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 7 hours ago, downunder said: @_s3_ thanks for that. I was aware LSMs were less power hungry than LIMs, but not to what degree. I've heard crazy things about LIMs like every ride cycle of Wicked Twister cost $50 in electricity - I'd love to know if that's true - if you extrapolate that into a seasonal cost, it's a hell of a lot for a non-marquee ride. And I've also heard if they ran both sides of Chiller at GAdv at the same time, it could take out the grid lol. I'm sure Cedar Fair would have done a business/cost benefit case for a large piece of capital expenditure like this with operating costs being one component. I'm sceptical it will go all the way up the spike, but I guess we'll see next year. Will be fun if it does, still fun if it doesn't. The power draw for Incredible Hulk is/was so large it couldve caused brownouts. They added generators to compensate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyUD06 Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Haymaker said: The power draw for Incredible Hulk is/was so large it couldve caused brownouts. They added generators to compensate. And Hulk doesn't use LIMs or LSMs for it's launch, so is not relevant to this discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haymaker Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 10 hours ago, AmyUD06 said: And Hulk doesn't use LIMs or LSMs for it's launch, so is not relevant to this discussion. Thanks for your opinion https://www.foxnews.com/opinion 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasternut Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Magnum was closed all day today. Not sure if this had anything to do with the evac a few days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasternut Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 I found out more on the Magnum closure today. Not sure the accuracy of this source, but here it is. The lift motor was blown. This will take awhile to replace. Looks like no rides on Maggie for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prozach626 Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 Even worse, the motor on my garage is blown. No sympathy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasternut Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 ^^ Looks like Magnum is open today. Of course I'm gone. Must not have been too bad of an issue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prozach626 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 My garage opener has also been fixed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doppel Looping Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, prozach626 said: My garage opener has also been fixed. Does your car have upstop wheels or just skid pads? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prozach626 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, so skid pads. It's a WRX, so it feels like it's on rails. (I wish) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasternut Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Their third webcam is now pointed at TT2. You can see some crane action... They're also occasionally running Millennium Force while the park is closed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyUD06 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 So I'm probably out of the loop here, only making my first trips to CF parks this year in the past few weeks, but when did CP relax their rain policy? Maverick, Valravn, Raptor, Wild Mouse, Blue Streak... even Magnum, all running in light rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasternut Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 ^ That's just happened recently. I'm guessing only 1 train ops? Probably just a Halloweekends thing. I've not experienced that this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyUD06 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 2 hours ago, coasternut said: ^ That's just happened recently. I'm guessing only 1 train ops? Probably just a Halloweekends thing. I've not experienced that this year. Many coasters were running multiple trains. Only one on Magnum though haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasternut Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Glad to hear of their change of heart. I'll be there next weekend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyUD06 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 27 minutes ago, coasternut said: Glad to hear of their change of heart. I'll be there next weekend... Yeah I was impressed. Note that if it's even slightly raining and you're coming for haunt stuff, the only things that will happen are indoor mazes or shows. Everything outdoors, including roving scare actors and shows, do not happen in the rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasternut Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 ^ I don't go for the haunt stuff. I'm there for the coasters.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyUD06 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 4 hours ago, coasternut said: ^ I don't go for the haunt stuff. I'm there for the coasters.... LOL, I was just sayin'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasternut Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Here is the link to the reveal for the new TT2 trains with Tony and Zamperla from Cedar Point at IAAPA. Nothing was said about the lighting package in the video. I hope it has it too... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinU Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I'm not seeing any seatbelts... will they be added later or not at all? No way they get away without having them... right? (Oh how no seatbelts would speed up the dispatch times). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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