LaMapa Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 VIA SFMM twitter Six Flags MM @SFMagicMountain Where are you "hanging out" this weekend? They must be spinning the cars now.... On Wednesday when I rode, we went up the lift completely facing the ground and we still only got the one flip at the end. But I have to say the rocking was pretty intense! Just watch, 6 months after Lex Luthor has opened they will only lift the ride to the top of the brakes and then drop it into the brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathbydinn Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 (edited) ^^ You can tell from the shields that the picture isn't current. I'll bet that the picture is from media day or a commercial shoot. Edited June 9, 2012 by deathbydinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTown661 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 VIA SFMM twitter Six Flags MM @SFMagicMountain Where are you "hanging out" this weekend? They must be spinning the cars now.... Couple things I see are two (2) Trains/Cars on track at same time and that hasn't been seen since opening week ... my guess is they are waiting for mechanic to come and flip them back over to return into the station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammmmmy Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Is this a subtle slap in the face to enthusiasts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterKings908 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 ^^ You can tell from the shields that the picture isn't current. I'll bet that the picture is from media day or a commercial shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double0Kevin Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Regarding the OTSRs on Revolution. There is no law saying they have to have them, but in order to modify restraints you still have to get state approval. Typically the state will not allow you to remove restraints, only add them. If they got new trains with only lap bars, that would be different. And before anyone argues the logic that it ran for years with lap bars just fine, I'm aware. The state doesn't listen to stuff like that, these are the guys that make DCA run Screamin' with it's retractable handrails up all day because they think it's safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clippers6 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 From what I understand, the rule applies to the whole ride, not just the trains. Even if they got new trains they would still need OTSRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Loya Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 VIA SFMM twitter Six Flags MM @SFMagicMountain Where are you "hanging out" this weekend? They must be spinning the cars now.... actually they are spinning the cars now, when i went i flipped at least 4 times, and ive seen them run more than one train on green lantern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigalyte Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 (edited) ^^That is not true, the only thing stopping SFMM from getting new trains for Revolution with lapbars is SF/SFMM. It has been proven time and time again that a coaster can operate safely with one or more inversions using lapbar only that is not the issue. The issue is SF/SFMM not willing to spend the money and having the ride re-certified to operate with lapbar only trains. I work for a Insurance company and yes we cover Amusement parks and other commercial properties and I have not seen one thing relating to an amusement park ride saying if a ride is modified from Lapbars to Otsr's it can never go back to lapbars. It does state if a ride is modified depending on the mods it will have to go through re-certification restraints are one of those mods. Changing the restraints would require a re-certification to continue to be covered by our insurance, same thing goes for a ride that would be upgraded to magnetic braking. Certified is when a ride is built tested and signed off by the manufacturer and the state, it is consider certified to operate safely and able to be opened to the public. Re-certified is pretty much the same thing the ride is treated as brand new and put through all the testing that a new ride would be put through far as certain number of a cycle hours, force readings ect, etc. Anyways there are no Laws, rules, or regulations in California stating Revolution can not go back to lapbars PERIOD!!! it's all up to SF/SFMM to make that choice. Edited June 9, 2012 by Gigalyte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigalyte Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Regarding the OTSRs on Revolution. There is no law saying they have to have them, but in order to modify noodles you still have to get state approval. Typically the state will not allow you to remove noodles, only add them. If they got new trains with only lap bars, that would be different. And before anyone argues the logic that it ran for years with lap bars just fine, I'm aware. The state doesn't listen to stuff like that, these are the guys that make DCA run Screamin' with it's retractable handrails up all day because they think it's safer. The reason you can install Otsr's but not remove them is b/c once SFMM had those Otsr's installed they pretty much voided the lapbars that were on the train. In other words by the installation of the Otsr's it's saying that the lapbars that were on the train is not safe to use by themselves, b/c if they were then there wouldn't of been any need to install Otsr's in the first place. So the only way to get lapbars back on Revolution is to design some new lapbars that are of today's safety standards or to buy new trains with lapbars already on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double0Kevin Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 ^ I know, but would SFMM really invest to get redesigned lap bars on old trains that are probably nearing the end of they operating life? I was saying basically exactly what you just said. State needs to approve it, and they aren't likely to approve less restraints, because it brings the question of why were more necessary in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Clinksalot Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Went to the park today, well SFHH but stopped in to MM briefly to get some LL:DOD pics. Ride is looking good, there was some gold trim added to the queue building that looks REALLY nice. The ride vehicle was covered up but I was told padding was added to the OTSR's, so they aren't the same lap bars as Skyrush. Also told that testing should start at some point this week and that they will be ready for Media Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterKings908 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Regarding the OTSRs on Revolution. There is no law saying they have to have them, but in order to modify noodles you still have to get state approval. Typically the state will not allow you to remove noodles, only add them. If they got new trains with only lap bars, that would be different. Revolution being "OSTR-Free" would be really awesome and quite nostalgic, however I honestly don't see the current management dealing with this issue any time soon. Now, if new management were to come into play, then there might be a hopeful chance of restoration to Revolution, but other than that, Revolution will continue to bear OSTRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechanic Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 When it comes to Revolution and its trains, and this tired discussion, all that comes to mind is: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Loya Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Went to the park today, well SFHH but stopped in to MM briefly to get some LL:DOD pics. Ride is looking good, there was some gold trim added to the queue building that looks REALLY nice. The ride vehicle was covered up but I was told padding was added to the OTSR's, so they aren't the same lap bars as Skyrush. Also told that testing should start at some point this week and that they will be ready for Media Day. So are you gonna post the pictures that you took? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFMMMan17 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 VIA SFMM twitter Six Flags MM @SFMagicMountain Where are you "hanging out" this weekend? They must be spinning the cars now.... actually they are spinning the cars now, when i went i flipped at least 4 times, and ive seen them run more than one train on green lantern That picture is also when the car is on the brake run, the only place where it usually flips! I'm glad to hear GL is flipping more... or maybe you just got lucky. I thought it was a great ride without flips, I'd love to ride it when it does! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clippers6 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 If you can get a good weight differential, GL can be non-stop flipping. An employee did tell us that they have toned it down a bit since it opened and that the mechanic that used to be stationed at the ride is no longer there all the time which seems like a bad idea given how much this ride seems to go down and how painful it gets for riders each time it does. I had a thought though, the OTSRs on Green Lantern are fabric so you don't really get the headbanging you'd get with noodles. Would these make a suitable replacement for Revolution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Thrill Dragster Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 I would much rather see the park give Revolution the Steel Phantom/Phantoms Revenge treatment to the ride than new trains for a mediocre ride. Could you imagine a Intamin blitz coaster that used the best aspects of Revolution (Station, ramp to the loop, loop, and tunnel). Sigh, one can only dream. As long as Six Flags is running the park, Revolution will never get new trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaMapa Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 If you can get a good weight differential, GL can be non-stop flipping. An employee did tell us that they have toned it down a bit since it opened and that the mechanic that used to be stationed at the ride is no longer there all the time which seems like a bad idea given how much this ride seems to go down and how painful it gets for riders each time it does. That isn't necessarily true. On Wednesday I went up the lift completely facing downwards and we only got the one flip at the end. It's weird. I usually get 2+ flips on the more balanced rides! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterKings908 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 I had a thought though, the OTSRs on Green Lantern are fabric so you don't really get the headbanging you'd get with noodles. Would these make a suitable replacement for Revolution? During the Q&A at WCB 2011, park management actually performed a comedy skit about this idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazywolf88 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 I would much rather see the park give Revolution the Steel Phantom/Phantoms Revenge treatment to the ride than new trains for a mediocre ride. Could you imagine a Intamin blitz coaster that used the best aspects of Revolution (Station, ramp to the loop, loop, and tunnel). Sigh, one can only dream. Rudie would kill you for mentioning that idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckaroo234 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I would much rather see the park give Revolution the Steel Phantom/Phantoms Revenge treatment to the ride than new trains for a mediocre ride. Could you imagine a Intamin blitz coaster that used the best aspects of Revolution (Station, ramp to the loop, loop, and tunnel). Sigh, one can only dream. Rudie would kill you for mentioning that idea. as would i. Modifying what was the first sucessful modern looping coaster is akin to saying 'we dont really need the statue of liberty anymore' or saying 'you know, the washington monument is kinda a waste of space, wouldnt an appartment building be better use. Revolution is not just a roller coaster, it was a roller coaster that helped form the modern age of coasters. Not to mention the fact it is one of His works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterKings908 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I would much rather see the park give Revolution the Steel Phantom/Phantoms Revenge treatment to the ride than new trains for a mediocre ride. Could you imagine a Intamin blitz coaster that used the best aspects of Revolution (Station, ramp to the loop, loop, and tunnel). Sigh, one can only dream. Rudie would kill you for mentioning that idea. as would i. Modifying what was the first sucessful modern looping coaster is akin to saying 'we dont really need the statue of liberty anymore' or saying 'you know, the washington monument is kinda a waste of space, wouldnt an appartment building be better use. Revolution is not just a roller coaster, it was a roller coaster that helped form the modern age of coasters. Not to mention the fact it is one of His works AMEN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalCoasters Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I would much rather see the park give Revolution the Steel Phantom/Phantoms Revenge treatment to the ride than new trains for a mediocre ride. Could you imagine a Intamin blitz coaster that used the best aspects of Revolution (Station, ramp to the loop, loop, and tunnel). Sigh, one can only dream. I now remove your rank of Coaster Enthusiast! Revolution is still a kickass ride. People don't give it enough credit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Now I know this has been brought up multiple times, but if you had suggested Viper get that treatment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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