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If any ride needs to run 3 trains it's Superman, and it's too bad they don't run three trains anymore like they did when it opened.

 

And by Superman do you mean...??? I may not be an expert on these matters, but last I checked 3 trains running on a dual track shuttle coaster is going to be a bit of a problem.

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I've always thought Goliath should run three trains much more. At WCB 2011 (the year of the one train wonders: Riddler's, Apocalypse, and Tatsu), we learned a bit about train rehab cycles. Next to Gold Rusher, Goliath's trains were apparantly the fastest and easiest to rehab with a three to four week cycle for each train. Why not run all three during the summer months? Even with SFMM ride ops, everyone still waits awhile in the station for the two trains to come back. Goliath certainly has the long lines to justify running train three.

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Report from yesterday!

 

Got in at opening through the Discover line and ran to X2. Waited 30 minutes for them to finish testing and got a ride in on the second row of the first train of the day (no music on either train). Then after riding got back in line again and had about a 15 minute wait! It was so strange! X2 didn't back up in the morning! Then we headed up to Tatsu and waited about 20 minutes (both sides with 2 trains). The 3rd train did look comletely operational and hopefully they will be running all 3 soon. Headed to Apocalypse and got on in about 5 minutes in the station. Riddlers-- 2 train wait without single rider. Green Lantern-- 5 min. in SR line (30 minute regular wait). The cars seem a little more "spinny" now, with most of the cars getting at least 2 flips (some of the balanced ones got 2!). Batman--45 minutes with one train operation (Ugh!). Goliath-- 5 minutes (3 train wait). Goldrusher was back to 2 trains, as was Ninja, both walkons. Scream and Colossus were walkons too. Went to Viper and rode almost alone!! Then went back to X2 and wait 15 minutes (the end of the line was where they split us to the sides.

 

Good day at the park!

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Sounds Awesome! Since when did Riddler's finally get two trains again? Glad to hear they got two trains again to run things faster, and I can't believe what you said about GL! I just could not believe my ears... Anyways, glad to hear you had a good day and I'm also glad to hear SFMM had got things operating well!

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no music on either train

 

Yes!

 

Then we headed up to Tatsu and waited about 20 minutes (both sides with 2 trains).

 

Yes!

 

Green Lantern-- 5 min. in SR line (30 minute regular wait). The cars seem a little more "spinny" now

 

Yes!

 

Goliath-- 5 minutes (3 train wait).

 

Yes!

 

Good day at the park!

 

No joke! That sounds like a total understatement!

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Yeah! Operations were amazing yesterday! Tatsu was usually making the 90 second dispatch time and Riddlers was too. They got their second train back a couple weeks ago. Hopefully they keep it up! Now all we need is Superman back open ! All the rides were staffed really well too and the ride ops were trying to entertain people waiting in the station. And.. Colossus was completely operated by blondes! Haha. And on GL I flipped in a place where I have never seen it flip before.. the flat part before the last small hill.. and was painful! And concerning the souvenir bottles: They never charge me the 99 cent refill anymore. Since I got my bottle in December, I haven't been charged once for a refill! It's been a really amazing deal! Thanks for being careless SFMM employees!

 

Next Scheduled Trips to SFMM:

Friday, May 4th

Saturday, May 12th (Gonna be a bad day,I know)

 

EDIT: Most of the "Three Stooges" ads have been taken down, and Curly's Colossus has been converted back to Colossus and the wraps have been removed from the trains.

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Wow, amazing day at the park today. It was absolutely DESERTED, and every ride was a walk on unless you wanted the front, even then it was just a 1-2 train wait. I'll write up a longer TR later tonight hopefully.

 

Yup today was great day to earn credits and get mega ERT if so desired. The first lot of parking lot never filled and only a handful of buses turned it into a great day also with the overcast, it was sweet.

 

I spoke with one person who was from Ohio and wearing his American Coaster Enthusiast (ACE) shirt he was here to get his credits he needed on Ninja, Green Lantern and Road Runner Express. He was most happy and also got on many of the big rides but was leaving the park to get to Santa Monica Pier to get a credit.... oh and he had done all this by 12:15 ! ! ! He was going to continue his journey in the coming days with trips to Knotts and Disneyland ... so this guy was living life and doing it at great pace.... More power to ya!

 

Happened to go past Riddlers only to see it stopped in the main lift with ride opps talking to the guests .. not sure how long it was down but for sure at least 15 minutes while i watched this group of guys trying to climb the Rock Wall with limited success ... but they were having fun trying and I think had side wagers as more money was flowing between them than I had seen in a while.

 

All and all a great day at SFMM and looking forward to going back again tomorrow and doing it till I hurt.

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I can't help but wonder if one train operations at seemingly illogical times have anything to do with encouraging Flash Pass sales. I know that in public we'd get a denial that any practice of the sort would be in play, but what happens behind closed doors in executive meetings about improving profitability and what's said in public are often two very different things. If the maintenance schedule can be manipulated to increase profitability on multiple fronts, then why wouldn't a savvy executive team do it? That is, as long as operations are not cut back to a level that discourages attendance, or at least doesn't discourage attendance to the point that increased Flash Pass revenues more than cover the loss in attendance. Or, more to the point, discourages attendance of those guests that spend the least in the park while not significantly affecting the attendance of those that spend the most. In this day and age of micro-analyzing every facet of clientele behavior and spending habits, I would imagine the people in the corporate offices know exactly where those balance points are at.

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^You never know. Like I said earlier, every single ride was a walk on today, yet I waited an hour and a half for X2, it was only running one train... oh well, I luckily got assigned the front row. Anyway, considering I waited nothing for anything today, an hour and a half wait was torture . I'm sure families from out of town would consider spending the 50 bucks or so to ride the "Most Xtreme coaster on the planet," advertised as such.

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I recently checked The Coaster Guy and he posted a picture of the Magic of the Mountain museum being gone can anyone confirm that is is officially gone? If so why would they remove it?

 

That's a bummer. It was one of the few good things about SFMM. A nice touch.

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^That's a bummer. The person who dedicated so much time to it and make it great just moved to a different Six Flags park so the timing does kind of make sense. As if they were waiting till he was gone to take it down to avoid drama. Ugh, really a shame.

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It does sound like Magic Mountain is doing some backsliding after a few years of improvement. The museum in the Sky Tower was a nice touch--I guess they just didn't want to dedicate any staff time to maintaining it?

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I recently checked The Coaster Guy and he posted a picture of the Magic of the Mountain museum being gone can anyone confirm that is is officially gone? If so why would they remove it?

 

That would be a bummer if true. All the little improvements over the last few years are slowly going away.

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^ Yup.

 

We didn't have passes from 2006-2008 and when we returned in 2009 it was really evident that the park was on the right path and doing a lot of really great things. It was more about the little touches.

 

Sadly now I'm starting to see many area's of the park reverting back to that 2002-2006 feeling and only concentrating on whatever is new.

 

DC Universe was (and still is) great, but it's just the little things that are starting to become big things.

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From Screamscape:

Several SFMM locals have reported over at CoasterFusion about receiving an e-mail survey to get their opinion on the name “Full Throttle” for a future park attraction. One very very interesting question in the survey seems to give away a possible major spoiler for the ride experience. “Lets’s say that at some point in themiddle of the full throttle themed ride there is some kind of tunnel. During this ride you’d shoot into the tunnel at 500 miles per hour, stop short, wait a few moments and then fly out of the tunnel backwards the way you came in. What kind of experience would you want to have in the tunnel? Keep in mind that the ride is only going to be in the tunnel for several seconds before they shoot back out backwards. What should they experience?”

Wow… while the 500mph bit is complete over-hype… the basic concept here sounds very interesting experience may be planned for the former monorail tunnel inside the mountain itself.

 

Personally, I'm a little bit sad that it might not be a complete circuit; I would take a full-circuit coaster over a shuttle any day (disclaimer: I have not ridden a Schwarzkopf shuttle loop since 1999 )

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