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^2nd station wouldn't do a damn bit of good as it wouldn't be staffed.

 

I would venture to say that SFMM's staffing was already stretched pretty thin before TC opened (long drive for most people, low-paying job, school still being in, a ton of coasters to find ROs for), and finding a double sized crew of existing employees to train wasn't feasible. Perhaps they could have built the 2nd station and just waited to use it until summer time, but then come September, it'd be the same problem. Building the 2nd station would have added cost and complexity to an already expensive and complex ride, and it would only be feasible to use for less than half the year.

 

CP gets away with double stations because it's a seasonal park tat only has to compete with school schedules for a few weeks, and because none of their ROs get paid overtime. CP can staff a ride for the entire season with 10-14 people. They work 10-12 hour days, usually 6-7 days per week, and none of it goes beyond $8.10 an hour. Magic Mountain needs to account for overtime pay for: above 8 hours in a day, above 40 hours in a week, and the 7th day in a week. In order to achieve the same staffing while remaining in budget, they'd need a crew of 20-25 for the same ride.

 

edit: fixed the space/time rift

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There's a huge fire in Stevenson Ranch, I wonder if the smoke is affecting guests

X2 and viper area was close for a while it pushing guests in doors. Had a few min when it was so bright I couldn't look. Traffic going towards there was bad looked like they closed the freeway.

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Any news on Goliath?

Won't open until September. An inspection found that the lift was not up to code so they're doing a whole refurb.

 

Of course the ride won't be open when I go to this park for the first time next month.

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Any news on Goliath?

Won't open until September. An inspection found that the lift was not up to code so they're doing a whole refurb.

 

Of course the ride won't be open when I go to this park for the first time next month.

 

Not up to code? The ride isn't THAT old. What the heck?

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^lol! So true.

 

Knott's was never able to get Windseeker re-opened.

 

1. I doubt this has anything to do with California. There is no "code" for rides like there is building code. There's the ASTM standards that everyone agrees to follow because they are the best current documented practices out there. The state just comes in, verifies procedures are being followed, watches a mock evacuation, and that's about it. I bet SFMM screwed something up, at which point the state just said "uhm...guys...this modification doesn't meet one of those requirements...so sorry...it's closed"

 

2. Windseeker was lucky to get approved the first time around. Once the incident showed how insufficient Mondial's evac procedures really were, the ride had no chance.

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^lol! So true.

 

Knott's was never able to get Windseeker re-opened.

 

1. I doubt this has anything to do with California. There is no "code" for rides like there is building code. There's the ASTM standards that everyone agrees to follow because they are the best current documented practices out there. The state just comes in, verifies procedures are being followed, watches a mock evacuation, and that's about it. I bet SFMM screwed something up, at which point the state just said "uhm...guys...this modification doesn't meet one of those requirements...so sorry...it's closed"

 

2. Windseeker was lucky to get approved the first time around. Once the incident showed how insufficient Mondial's evac procedures really were, the ride had no chance.

 

I think i saw the same evac platform at Carowinds. Is this just another example of CALOSHA's stricter guidelines?

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I'd love a giga like fury 325

 

Any possible ways it could get to SFMM. Obviously a ride has to be taken away for space, but i'd love a long ride with no brakes.

I wouldn't hold your breath on that. A lot of us were hoping what turned out to be Full Throttle would be a giga that utilized the terrain available...

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I may be wrong, but wasn't the evac platform added after it got stuck @ Knotts?

 

Correct. The evac platform was a modification to try and get the ride to re-open. I suspect Mondial and KBF could never get it to work correctly or efficiently enough to allow DOSH to approve it.

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I'd love a giga like fury 325

 

Any possible ways it could get to SFMM. Obviously a ride has to be taken away for space, but i'd love a long ride with no brakes.

Well, while they keep the "we're not spending more than 20 million on a single ride again" policy that's definitely not happening.

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I may be wrong, but wasn't the evac platform added after it got stuck @ Knotts?

 

Correct. The evac platform was a modification to try and get the ride to re-open. I suspect Mondial and KBF could never get it to work correctly or efficiently enough to allow DOSH to approve it.

 

The EVAC procedures (Or lack thereof depending how you look at it) isn't the reason the ride never reopened.

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Since the announcement of TC, I have been dying to ride it, not just because it looks like an amazing ride, but I also love RMC's. So far I have ridden three in this order from favorite to least favorite: NTag, WC, and IRat. For those who have ridden TC, where do you think it will rank in that order and in your personal order. Thank you!

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Since the announcement of TC, I have been dying to ride it, not just because it looks like an amazing ride, but I also love RMC's. So far I have ridden three in this order from favorite to least favorite: NTag, WC, and IRat. For those who have ridden TC, where do you think it will rank in that order and in your personal order. Thank you!

 

TC is the only RMC I've ridden, so I can't compare it to other RMC's but it's my new #1 overall coaster. There's just so many cool elements to it along with 18-19 moments of airtime. You are just constantly out of your seat on TC, I've never ridden anything with so much airtime. The ride time is long since you do both sides and the dueling really adds to the ride experience. And the Top Gun stall is probably my favorite element ever on a coaster. It's just amazing to be on a coaster and see another coaster hanging upside down above you. I was at the promo shoot for TC and ended up riding it 19 times in one day and I would've ridden it 19 more if they would've let me. RMC really delivered a world class ride experience with TC.

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