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No where does it say Adventure Mountain is being removed. It seems like its just a temporary closing due to near by construction

Except that I just posted this on the preview page:

Just spoke with Pete Owens, he did confirm that Adventure Mountain is being *REMOVED* - he did also say this - "We are removing Adventure Mountain to make room for the 2014 attraction. I think when we are done folks will love the attraction."

 

And it's been re-posted... TWICE on this page! (scroll up, dude!)

 

Seriously, people... all we ask is that you please READ the thread before you post!

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It is curious that Lance mentioned the train loop and its proximity to Adventure Mountain's location. Perhaps, the new attraction somehow utilizes Adventure Mountain's spot and the train loop?

 

Pete pretty much shot this idea down in an interview. He said it's a good expansion spot, but not for 2014. He also said that the new attraction will take over AMs spot but some of the infrastructure may be reused, the new attraction is for familys, and the decision to put it in AMs spot is based off of the size of the new attraction as well as how it would allow them to expand outward in the coming years.

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I loved Adventure Mountain on my visit this year. Pretty rare attraction and included in park admission it was lots of fun, a good way to kill some time, and quite a workout. I guess the ride could be a bit of a problem for maintenance as well as the amount of staffing required, but it definitely seemed popular. I wish they'd be able to save it and move it elsewhere in the park or even over to the waterpark, but I doubt it. Glad I had a chance to experience it when I did.

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Never been to Dollywood, but not getting this decision... It looks like a fun unique attraction. And relativity new.

 

If they are sending it to another property, Darien Lake please.

 

Edit: It will really sad if the removal was due to "sue happy America."

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Never been to Dollywood, but not getting this decision... It looks like a fun unique attraction. And relativity new.

 

If they are sending it to another property, Darien Lake please.

 

Edit: It will really sad if the removal was due to "sue happy America."

 

 

Yeah, it's going over like a turd in the punch bowl. Someone must have broke a sweat or used a muscle other than the ass.

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It is curious that Lance mentioned the train loop and its proximity to Adventure Mountain's location. Perhaps, the new attraction somehow utilizes Adventure Mountain's spot and the train loop?

 

Pete pretty much shot this idea down in an interview. He said it's a good expansion spot, but not for 2014. He also said that the new attraction will take over AMs spot but some of the infrastructure may be reused, the new attraction is for familys, and the decision to put it in AMs spot is based off of the size of the new attraction as well as how it would allow them to expand outward in the coming years.

 

I'm extremely intrigued to find out what is so amazing that they decided they had to flush a $6 million, already popular attraction away to build it. Based on that it sounds like they messed up in the first place by putting AM where they did. Something definitely doesn't add up here, but I assume the reasons behind all this are more complex than any outsider can piece together. On some level though, something majorly lame and stupid must have been involved.

 

This 2014 attraction sounds like it will be a signature attraction for DW though. My bets are also on a major dark ride of some sort, perhaps inspired by WWHP at IOA.

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Yesterday (sunday) I was at a little family gathering where my dad's aunt was showing pictures of their cross country car trip. One of their stops was Dollywood and they couldn't remember the name of the coaster they took a picture of when their cousin or niece rode it. So my dad and his cousin call me over and I instantly see it's Wild Eagle. Despite never having been east of salt lake city's airport.

 

If I owned a smartphone I would of pulled up a POV of it. I know my dad's aunt and uncle wouldn't of rode it and his uncle wouldn't of been able to with neck issues.

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I'Something definitely doesn't add up here, but I assume the reasons behind all this are more complex than any outsider can piece together. On some level though, something majorly lame and stupid must have been involved.

 

 

Well, there's one answer that covers all the bases. The reasons are "complex," yet "majorly lame."

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Damn. I loved Adventure Mountain during the IntimidaTOUR 2 years ago. It was such a fun experience and so unique in the US. To be getting rid of it, Dollywood must really, really trust what's taking its place. So I can't wait for it to come! Cause if it's so good that they get rid of Adventure Mountain to make room for it, it must be amazing!

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I just listened to the podcast with Pete on another coaster site...and what i gathered was that Adventure Mountain is in the planned pathway up to the Upper Train Loop, which they have plans to develop soon (but not for 2014!). This sounded odd at first, to me, but Pete explained that it has to do with how steep the path is. For example, the path between the Main Gate and Thunder Canyon is also steep. It has to have all the switchbacks in order to make it less steep, and that makes it compliant with the Americans with Disability Act (ADA). The planned pathway from Wilderness Pass to The Upper Train Loop will need to be similar in design, with switchbacks, because of ADA.

 

So, in order to develop the the Upper Train Loop, they need some of the space that Adventure Mountain currently occupies for the 2014 attraction and for access to the Upper Loop.

 

Pete said they did not know what would happen to Adventure Mountain. Parts of it could go to Stone Mountain in Georgia, as they have a smaller version of Adventure Mountain, but he said a decision hasn't been made at this point.

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I will keep a "wait and see" attitude myself, but if the new attraction is as good as they're saying it's going to be, I'm going to put off going to Dollywood for another season.

 

I know that I shouldn't be whining and avoiding a park like the plague just because of one attraction, but I absolutely love ropes courses (especially the colorful Sky Trail ones) and Adventure Mountain was probably the one I was most looking forward to trying out since I heard about it. I think that it and Thunderhead are would be worth the Dollywood admission price, and everything else is just a bonus. Whether you agree or disagree with my thinking doesn't bother me at all.

 

2014 better be absolutely fantastic!

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Kind of sounds like some plans came together that will add an attraction and pave the way for future expansion in the area. Unfortunately Adventure Mountain was in the way. Probably thinking that losing one attraction and getting another while being able to open another area of the park a win-win situation.

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I just listened to the podcast with Pete on another coaster site...and what i gathered was that Adventure Mountain is in the planned pathway up to the Upper Train Loop, which they have plans to develop soon (but not for 2014!). This sounded odd at first, to me, but Pete explained that it has to do with how steep the path is. For example, the path between the Main Gate and Thunder Canyon is also steep. It has to have all the switchbacks in order to make it less steep, and that makes it compliant with the Americans with Disability Act (ADA). The planned pathway from Wilderness Pass to The Upper Train Loop will need to be similar in design, with switchbacks, because of ADA.

 

So, in order to develop the the Upper Train Loop, they need some of the space that Adventure Mountain currently occupies for the 2014 attraction and for access to the Upper Loop.

 

Pete said they did not know what would happen to Adventure Mountain. Parts of it could go to Stone Mountain in Georgia, as they have a smaller version of Adventure Mountain, but he said a decision hasn't been made at this point.

 

 

Wish they'd ship it to Silver Dollar City.

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While I did enjoy Adventure Mountain, I have to admit that it didn't seem like the best fit for a large park like Dollywood. I'd guess the capacity of the attraction was probably only a few hundred people per hour, and I heard plenty of stories of two hour waits for it while everything else was under 30 minutes. It's a unique attraction, that's for sure, but I've got a feeling that whatever replaces it, as well as the expansion of the park, will probably be worth the loss. Dollywood rarely disappoints, and there's no reason they should suddenly start to do so.

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While I did enjoy Adventure Mountain, I have to admit that it didn't seem like the best fit for a large park like Dollywood. I'd guess the capacity of the attraction was probably only a few hundred people per hour, and I heard plenty of stories of two hour waits for it while everything else was under 30 minutes. It's a unique attraction, that's for sure, but I've got a feeling that whatever replaces it, as well as the expansion of the park, will probably be worth the loss. Dollywood rarely disappoints, and there's no reason they should suddenly start to do so.

 

 

Herchend should sell it to the partners they manage Eilitch Gardens and Darien Lake for and send it to Magic Springs. Capacity shouldn't be an issue there and it would fit in.

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I think capacity was definitely an issue, partly because you could get off one course and stay on for the other two, so the attraction would take a good 45 minutes to get through. I'm happy when I went, there was no wait really. It seemed like it would be something that every person felt obliged to do when they went there, unless they were season pass holders. The ride will definitely be missed, though I am sure they know what's best.

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So from a lot of the recent discussion I'm gathering that AM was more somewhat poorly thought-out for the park with bad capacity and taking up real estate that is already needed for park expansion. It wouldn't be a big deal at all if it weren't for the fact that they shelled out $6million for this thing and got just three seasons out of it. After the cluster that was Timber Tower, it's kind of concerning to see that happen again....

 

Is there really any substantial evidence point to them adding a second station to the train ride though? I haven't ridden this one yet, but it seems like it would ruin the train ride as a signature attraction of it's own and reduce it to just a transport means.

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