Fatality Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Here is something that blew my mind. Something that might change your mind on that something/someone is on your side... The Government. A one hour analysis of 9/11 and how it is more likely than not that the government was actually behind the attacks. Next to the work of Alex Jones, this is ranks up against the best of documentaries in the 9/11 Truth Movement Written and Directed by Dylan Avery 1 hour long. Take the Red Pill. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023320890224991194&q=loose+change Please tell me what you think about the video. There are so many questions and answers to this video & please ask any questions. Thanks! =]
ACEfanatic02 Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 *begins laughing* Didn't bother watching. I will when I have time to waste. A one hour video proving that the US government is behind the 9/11 terror attacks? Let's use some logic here: Why would the US attack its own country? Well, yes, there are several plausible explanations for that. Still... the attacks damaged the government's credibility (hense BS videos such as this one). Also, you'll note the PENTAGON was attacked? Sure... let's just blow up a quarter of our military leaders. Frankly, I'm rather offended by these sort of videos. They're the result of people who want to know the whole story. Face it, folks: we won't know the entire true story behind 9/11 and the ensuing war until ~50 years down the road, when the documents are de-classified. Why are they classified? Sensitive information, the stuff you don't want in the bad guys' hands. I have friends and family in the military. I knew friends-of-friends who died on 9/11. I hate these people so determined to pin this black mark on our own government - which, though not perfect, is doing its damnedest to protect your sorry butts against another one of these attacks. A disclaimir for all who will view the above: expect a propaganda film. Twenty bucks says it is. [/rant] -ACE
Wes Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 I should probably lock this since its just going to turn into a massive flamewar. TPR has been semi-decent before with keeping things civil on hot topics (though I really doubt this is even debatable unless you wear a tinfoil hat) before though, so I'll see. And my opinion is that this conspiracy theory is incredibly dumb and the government had no role in planning the attacks. We got caught off guard, end of story.
SLUSHIE Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 I think the government being behind the attacks is bs. I do know people that think that the government knew about it and let it happen so that they would have a reason to start the war over.
ShoubraStreet74 Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 I have seen many videos like this. Unfortunately, this type of thing is often brushed aside by many and labeled a "conspiracy theory", as if that automatically invalidates it. Without expressing my opinion on this particular 9/11 theory, I do believe that this type of video at least deserves to be watched and heard out, since in my experience most of the people that complain about videos like this have yet to take the time and watch it for themselves. That said, I can understand why it might be percieved as offensive. After all, this IS people's lives we're talking about. I think it was pretty brave of Fatality to post this since you never know what kind of response you will get with a controversial topic such as this.
Mr.Six Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Just watched the whole video (sadly). Most of the things that they state are a "conspirasy" can be answered by simple common sense. For example; the part when they were showing the examples of other buildings that had burned and not collapsed. Did any of those buildings get something ran into them before which would without a doubt weaken the buildings structure. They were also talking about how the building that was hit 2nd collapsed first. The plane that hit the north tower "smashed" into the center of it. The plane that hit the south tower did more of a "slice" to the building. Does it really take a genius to figure out which method is more effective. Bottom line; terrorists attacked us, we didn't attack ourselves. _six
FlyingScooter Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 I love conspiracy theories. I loved the one about the JFK/Oswald/Ruby assasinations. The moon landings were another good one, not to mention Pearl Harbor and Area 51. They make for great 'get drunk get loud' parties while blasting 'riders of the storm' by the Doors. i'll have to watch that after work.... hmmmm, sounds like a good reason to throw a party.
ltp74 Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Popular Mechanics debunked alot of the 9/11 myths last year here is a link to the site. http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=1&c=y
PhishyBrewer Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Yeah... And men walking on the moon was filmed in a studio
chavslayer Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 I do not trust my government in ANY way. I feel you cant trust your government and i belive this conspiricy the the truth . I think that 9/11 attacks were the governments excuse to invade Afganistan so it would be easier to make up the weapons of mass destruction bull so they had an excuse to invade iraq and get money off the oil. I think the war on terror is a lie. I apoligise in advance if anyone is offended by this.
PhishyBrewer Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 ^I’m offended by your poor grammar and spelling.
CoasterFanatic Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 I think the war on terror is a lie. Huh? Then what is the truth. Don't say oil or I shall beat you with a rubber chicken.
chavslayer Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Well i guess im going to get beaten with a rubber chicken lol. But seriously I think people need to open their eyes to what is going on. I just dont know what to belive anymore. And btw I dont see much poor grammar and spelling.
FlyingScooter Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Did you know you could get sued for improper grammar in this country? Look out! Thread-Merger!!!! <---- is looking around for flying rubber chickens. Come see the violence inherant to the system. Help, i'm being repressed!
PhishyBrewer Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 But seriously I think people need to open their eyes to what is going on. No seriously... write your little quote down somwhere and put it some where safe. Some where you'll be able to find it in 10 years or so. A little bit of college, being away from home and from mom and dad will open your eyes. And after that time has passed, your opinion will change. I'd bet money on it. And I believe a lot of other folks my age would do the same.
Blazen_AZN Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 . I think that 9/11 attacks were the governments excuse to invade Afganistan so it would be easier to make up the weapons of mass destruction bull so they had an excuse to invade iraq and get money off the oil. Really? Well then why didn't they just say the Iraqi government planned the attacks? Oh, and why did they need to invade afganistan to make up the fact that Iraq had WMDs? just remember one thing. No matter the reason you think the US went into this war, crazy conspiracy or the TRUTH, remember: Iraq and its people will end up much better after this war anyway. So while you may think this war is all a bunch of bull, we ARE doing a good thing for the people.
SonOfBeastSucks Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 Iraq and its people will end up much better after this war anyway. So while you may think this war is all a bunch of bull, we ARE doing a good thing for the people. While I agree with you that the Iraqi people will be better off in the long run..... the conditions are worse right now, during the war, than before it began. Also, even though the WMD were not found, I actually do support Bush for taking Hussein out of power for the risk that there were dangerous weapons in Iraq. Having said that, there still could be WMD somewhere in Iraq, that just haven't been found yet. In 1996, when the UN let Iraq start selling oil in world markets again so the country could get funding for schools and hospitals (etc), I have no doubt in my mind that some of the oil profits were going towards bad things, such as WMD. As for the topic of the thread, I do not believe that the United States had anything to do with the terrorist attacks of 9/11.
Swimace Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 I saw this a few weeks ago and I think it's a load of crap. Has anyone looked into the conspiracy theory on Kennedy's assassination? Now that's an interesting subject that is well based.
dougr Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 Some things bugged me: 1 The collapse of Tower 7. The Popular Mechanics explaination sounds logical, though.... 2 This: Ashcroft Flying High WASHINGTON, July 26, 2001 Attorney General Ashcroft, with President Bush (AP) Quote "There was a threat assessment and there are guidelines. He is acting under the guidelines." FBI spokesman (CBS) Fishing rod in hand, Attorney General John Ashcroft left on a weekend trip to Missouri Thursday afternoon aboard a chartered government jet, reports CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart. In response to inquiries from CBS News over why Ashcroft was traveling exclusively by leased jet aircraft instead of commercial airlines, the Justice Department cited what it called a "threat assessment" by the FBI, and said Ashcroft has been advised to travel only by private jet for the remainder of his term. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml 3 And this: August 6, 2001, presidential daily briefing entitled Bin Laden determined to strike in US. http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/ 4 And finally something from Project for the New American Century, the think-tank top members of the Bush administration belong to: A line frequently quoted by critics from Rebuilding America's Defenses famously refers to the possibility of a "catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor" (page 51). This quote appears in Chapter V, entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force", which discusses the perceived need for the Department of Defense to "move more aggressively to experiment with new technologies and operational concepts” (page 50). The full quote is as follows: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor." Some opponents of the Bush administration have used this quote as evidence for their belief the US government was complicit in the 9/11 terrorist attacks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
benzo41190 Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 I would have to say, the goverment didnt do the attacks. But they let it go to see what would happen during a mass panic situation. Like it was an experiment to see how people would react to something, seeing what people would do. Then they could use that info and see what would happen during a Nuclear war. IMO But I think it was only the first plane attack, not the rest. I really think that they knew something was going to happen but they didnt do anything about it. They just let it roll..
maliboomer Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 omg wtf orly america baddd they kill pepl\e eeeee badddd
Joe Cool Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 ^haha Yeah government was all behind the attacks They must of helped Osama film his videos about the attacks. People are stupid I swear.
shepp Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 ^ Well, people may be "stupid," but let's remember that we have a messianic moron for President. No, I don't believe that our government planned 9/11. But let's look at what we do know for sure. What came to be the Taliban was underwritten and generously armed by the Reagan administration during the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. During the Iraq/Iran War, when Saddam's crimes against his own people were already known, he hosted good ol' Don Rumsfeld, who smilingly provided aid and comfort. To quote a New York Times report on the Downing Street Memo, "At their (1/31/03) meeting, Mr. Bush and Mr. Blair candidly expressed their doubts that chemical, biological or nuclear weapons would be found in Iraq in the coming weeks, the memo said....There was palpable tension over finding a legitimate legal trigger for going to war that would be acceptable to other nations... Faced with the possibility of not finding any (WMD) before the planned invasion, Mr. Bush talked about several ways to provoke a confrontation, including a proposal to paint a United States surveillance plane in the colors of the United Nations in hopes of drawing fire, or assassinating Mr. Hussein." And, of course, we now know we have a government that spies on its citizens without a warrant, sends prisoners abroad so they can be subjected to illegal torture, and has repeatedly, persistently lied and cherry-picked their "facts" to justify foregone conclusions. But hey, Jesus told George that it was his pre-Rapture duty to invade Iraq, and that's good enough for me.
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