Racerbret Posted February 1, 2006 Posted February 1, 2006 I think no matter how you do it your gonna have a mess of supports with this kind of coaster. X already had a crap load. A couple more probably wont make much of a difference. As for what the ride does overall, since everyone else is giving their opinions, I'll give mine. Kind of a mix of whats logical and what would be cool. I'm gonna agree with the 180 right turn out of the station, lift hill, drop to bottom of the Raven turn that is being constructed. If the exit of the first raven turn does end up being Immelman-like, then the track should be in a standard coaster position for the rest of the ride. It goes trough the zero-g-flip-thingy and luge turn like X only the train will be upright. I doubt it would do all this with the seats backwards. It might, but I think its going to face forwards when not inverted (meaning facing foward up the lift and down the drop still doing a flip ant the bottom) as opposed to X. The footers look like they come back around the station and back towards where the crain on the left is. If you look, it looks like it is siting on a very large footer parhaps for a second raven turn similar to X's. Then it will go back into the station. The other elements, if any, I don't think anyone can tell. I would assume a half-half or full-full before the second raven turn meaning it could be either an inside or outside raven turn with either a half-half into the brakes or just brakes after the turn. It will be interesting to see what actually happens.
40belowbeef Posted February 1, 2006 Posted February 1, 2006 I agree Racerbret. After looking at that pic of the footers to the right of the lift hill, however, I believe it will be inverted coming out of the first raven...contrary to what i stated earlier...then go into a full-full or some full flip element. Then into an inverted wide swooping luge turn around the station...with an ending very similar to x's into a second smaller raven turn and back into the station...and there's my two cents.
rollermonkey Posted February 1, 2006 Posted February 1, 2006 I am shooting for 12 February to drive out there again. I am out to sea a lot this month, so we'll see. If I can't go that day, it won't be until March 4th that I would get another chance.
Loefet Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 New pictures at Asovini - Screamheaven, use IE to look on the new pics of the coaster. Looking even better now and some answers to your asumptions will be given with these pics.
rollermonkey Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 Wow, that element just keeps getting funkier. A. It's huge. B. That's a LOT of supports close together! Too bad he/they didn't get new shots from the ferris wheel. I'd like to see that. EDIT: On further examination, there's a lot more vertical than before. It also snowed since I went with Jeezus Juice. (There's now snow on the big box support.) It seems that the pace of construction has picked up. They only lifted one or two pieces the day we were there. There's a lot more than 14 new pieces up!
hyyyper Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 Ha! i knew it, the lift has yet to be build, even bigger than this tower, or a launch or a skywheel-like lift all options are great!, btw, the station COULD be double load, judging from the way it's being buildt
hyyyper Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 Ha! i knew it, the lift has yet to be build, even bigger than this tower, or a launch or a skywheel-like lift all options are great!, btw, the station COULD be double load, judging from the way it's being buildt
Racerbret Posted February 7, 2006 Posted February 7, 2006 Thats interesting. Very wierd looking Raven Turn. It looks like they took a loop on No Limits and just ajusted with it to much. Now that we know its gonna be inverted after the exit, I'm begining to think more and more its gonna be, more or less, just X mirrored with litte things here or there to help the ride run better. Hopefully they still do something different element wise, but we'll see. Can anyone thats been there give mabie a quick estimate to how tall the turn is? Having never been there I cant really get a baring on how big this thing actually is other then really, really big.
jarmor Posted February 7, 2006 Posted February 7, 2006 It looks like the track gets pretty close to the support beams closer to the top of the thing-a-ma-jiggy!
rollermonkey Posted February 7, 2006 Posted February 7, 2006 I was just there, but it's hard to really estimate height... It's taller than the shoot the chutes, and a bit shorter than Dodonpa's spike. RDCB lists DDP at 170 feet, but the park isn't level, so this element COULD actually be taller, it's hard to say, but I don't think so.
arrowfanman Posted February 7, 2006 Posted February 7, 2006 Wow--thats very interesting. You know, I personally think that it wont take this raven turn the same way it takes X's raven turn. The strange shaping and sudden fluctuation of the 3rd and 4th rails leads me to believe you may flip at the top or something. No clue, just an idea. -Jahan
COASTER FREAK 11 Posted February 7, 2006 Posted February 7, 2006 There is another NEW pic of teh raven turn on ACN http://www.asovini.com/screamer/e/4th_dimension/SANY0129.jpg
Fawkes Posted February 13, 2006 Posted February 13, 2006 I found some new pics on this website: http://www.asovini.com/screamer/e/4th_dimension/
hyyyper Posted February 13, 2006 Posted February 13, 2006 I found some new pics on this website: http://www.asovini.com/screamer/e/4th_dimension/ was already posted some pgs back
arrowfanman Posted February 13, 2006 Posted February 13, 2006 ^ Some pages back? Try the post before his. -Jahan
Loefet Posted February 13, 2006 Posted February 13, 2006 ^or look at my post on the page before this. Wonder how far they have built untill now?
Gutterflower Posted February 27, 2006 Posted February 27, 2006 the official site has a (small) webcam up now. Although you'll need to be a night own to catch anything interesting. Ever wanted to see what a coaster in a cage looks like
Millenniumguy Posted February 27, 2006 Posted February 27, 2006 Well, it's nice to see the 4d design being work on despite Arrow's bankruptcy. Let's just see if this 4d is better. Besides, remember how long it was after Xcelarator, the second rocket? And then(now), the sudden rage of rocket coasters?
Wes Posted February 27, 2006 Posted February 27, 2006 ^ I what you're trying to say there, but there wasn't exactly a lull in rocket coasters. Xcelerator opened in 2002, Dragster opened in 2003.
Ed Posted February 27, 2006 Author Posted February 27, 2006 So the drop is half done and it seems the turn around is taking shape quite nicely..
hyyyper Posted February 27, 2006 Posted February 27, 2006 the official site has a (small) webcam up now. Although you'll need to be a night own to catch anything interesting. Ever wanted to see what a coaster in a cage looks like link please....
rollerdude Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 Ok, we have confirmed the vertical drop. From what I can see, it looks like there is a support beam every 5 to 10 feet. Wow.
gottastrata33 Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 All those supports are mainly for earthquake safety stuff, hmm it looks odd though . Does anyone have a visual of the entire layout as in a rendering? I havent seen one at least...
waterviper Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 Here is a link to a live cam of it!! http://www.fujikyu.co.jp/fuji-q/ It's all in Japanese and Google wouldn't translate it!
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