I love pie Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I know it's been mentioned before, but hopefully this ride has a "kink" in the first drop like Skyrush. One of the biggest "Oh S**t" moments for me on that was the initial airtime, then that nosedive towards the ground. Ive ridden Skryush once before, (and loved it) but still dont understand what people mean by a "kink". Could you explain it to me please? It's best felt in the back. During the first drop, you get two pops of air. The first comes while cresting the hill and initially dropping. The second is midway through the drop, when the hill is around 85 degrees. It's a little hard to explain, but if you rode it again, I think you would get what I mean. Doesn't steel eel have 2 pops of air on it's drop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I know it's been mentioned before, but hopefully this ride has a "kink" in the first drop like Skyrush. One of the biggest "Oh S**t" moments for me on that was the initial airtime, then that nosedive towards the ground. Ive ridden Skryush once before, (and loved it) but still dont understand what people mean by a "kink". Could you explain it to me please? It's best felt in the back. During the first drop, you get two pops of air. The first comes while cresting the hill and initially dropping. The second is midway through the drop, when the hill is around 85 degrees. It's a little hard to explain, but if you rode it again, I think you would get what I mean. I wouldn't call it two pops of air as you continuously get airtime as you go down the drop. The thing is it's not constant (like on a B&M hyper) as you start by getting moderate air and then near the end it rapidly increases to OMFG ejector. (it's not evenly distributed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil009 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I know it's been mentioned before, but hopefully this ride has a "kink" in the first drop like Skyrush. One of the biggest "Oh S**t" moments for me on that was the initial airtime, then that nosedive towards the ground. Ive ridden Skryush once before, (and loved it) but still dont understand what people mean by a "kink". Could you explain it to me please? It's best felt in the back. During the first drop, you get two pops of air. The first comes while cresting the hill and initially dropping. The second is midway through the drop, when the hill is around 85 degrees. It's a little hard to explain, but if you rode it again, I think you would get what I mean. Doesn't steel eel have 2 pops of air on it's drop? There's a single point in the drop where the radius of the curve tightens and you get a spike of airtime, rather than a smooth increase and decrease in the forces. Most modern steel coasters avoid this kind of sudden jarring force. My theory is that the kink has to do with where the second support column is and was necessary to fit the drop in such a tight space. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a similar shape on the drop for this coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPmillenia94 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I honestly think that kink is just the way the structure settled for skyrush. In the same way that i305s lift kind of sags down on the way up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil009 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 ^It was there from day one. In fact it was even there in the renders, I remember people on the NoLimits forum talking about it before construction even started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPmillenia94 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Looking at the renders I don't see the kink, but my eyes might just be playing tricks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 The middle of the train is sitting right over top of the "kink" in this picture. You can see the crest of the drop is a fairly constant radius, but just before the evacuation stairs end, the drop actually flattens out slightly. Right under the middle of the train, the track radius suddenly decreases. (It does actually look to be a function of the support to me.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil009 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 ^Exactly. They wanted their 85 degree max angle, but they couldn't move the support column any closer to the apex or raise the max height of the ride, hence the bizarre shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbatboy Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Skyrush is bae, any ride that has similar elements is a winner in my book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoinItForTheFame Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Skyrush is bae... I can't even deal with this statement. There are a lot of words I've heard used to describe a roller coaster... "Bae" has NEVER been one of them... well... until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspence1127 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Ah I get it now. Thanks! (And thinking about it, I do remember feeling it on the drop now that you guys described it to me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinematics Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 ^Exactly. They wanted their 85 degree max angle, but they couldn't move the support column any closer to the apex or raise the max height of the ride, hence the bizarre shape. @vigil & neil Actually, the shape of drops on modern coasters are determined by ODE. It gives you the require angle for the bottom of the drop, with reference to the angle of the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinematics Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 ^Exactly. They wanted their 85 degree max angle, but they couldn't move the support column any closer to the apex or raise the max height of the ride, hence the bizarre shape. @vigil & neil009 The shapes of drops are determined by ODEs. The result give you the angle the bottom of the drop needs to be in relationship to the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRCT3 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 What does ODE mean? I'm a little lost, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECZenith Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Hi King, I believe ODE stands for ordinary differential equation. There are some extremely intelligent physics/engineering geniuses that frequent these boards I feel like one of them will pop by and explain it as it is not my area of expertise. According to math insight, it can be defined as... An ordinary differential equation (ODE) is an equation that involves some ordinary derivatives (as opposed to partial derivatives) of a function. Often, our goal is to solve an ODE, i.e., determine what function or functions satisfy the equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbatboy Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Skyrush is bae... I can't even deal with this statement. There are a lot of words I've heard used to describe a roller coaster... "Bae" has NEVER been one of them... well... until now. First time for everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutterflower Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Update from inside the dome with both new coasters in there coming along nicely. Here's the Intamin shuttle coaster. Quite how its going to get through that huge glass wall to get outside I have no idea. The outdoor part of the SFX coaster is done and you can see the Intamin shuttle in the background here too. Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubaidave Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 You beat me to it. I'm down there tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlaKoaster Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Oh wow, thanks for the update! Coming along nicely! I should be living out there for a while from next year so am excited to see progress/ride them once finished. Enjoy your day dubaidave, and feel free to post even more pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterkid124 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Ferrari World is going to become a big player in the industry. They are building more innovative rides than a lot of the big box chains even are. If the park was closer to home, I feel like I would visit it quite often once these few big projects are complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Ferrari World is going to become a big player in the industry. They are building more innovative rides than a lot of the big box chains even are. If the park was closer to home, I feel like I would visit it quite often once these few big projects are complete. Didn't everyone say that they were "going to become a big player" back in 2010 when the park opened in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterkid124 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I don't remember even hearing about this park until Formula Rossa came out. It's hard to judge a park's future based off of two coasters, even if one is the world's fastest. I'm just saying that in a way, the point is more evident than ever now that more unique concepts are being built. While I think that the Ferrari brand and owning the world's fastest coaster turns a lot of heads, the park is going above and beyond with the attractions. They aren't just going with the cheap cookie cutters. The park currently has (or is building): - The world's fastest coaster - A unique dueling coaster - Only Intamin Wing Coaster other than Skyrush (and largest loop record) - Only SFX coaster other than Gringott's - What we can assume to be a one of a kind shuttle from Intamin There's a lot of things there that not many other parks can boast having. The assumption back in 2010 could have been considered a little premature, but now through all of the development of the park, I would say it is very accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubaidave Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Heres some photos from Today. First up the SFX Coaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubaidave Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Here some pics of the shuttle coaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubaidave Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Finally Heres some general pics of new theming, or last least, new since I was last there. The 5th Birthday cake and other general stuff. I have to say the park is looking good, apart from the obvious construction. The new theming really adds to the section of the park that were a bit bare before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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