Holiday World (HW) Discussion Thread

[cfc]

^ Not at a 48 inch height requirement.

 

Something that carries a 42 inch height requirement and is more thrilling than The Howler is something the park needs.

 

Completely agree.

 

A mine train, or even something a bit more aggressive like a Powder Keg type ride would be awesome for the park.

 

More parks need rides like Powder Keg!

[ZeroGravity55]

For those who have been wondering about what the park might be doing for 2016, here is what the park said to someone on FB:

 

We don't have a gigantic announcement as we did last year for Thunderbird. Please follow us on our blog, newsletter and social media for updates about 2016: http://HolidayWorld.com/Connect

[kyleparks77]

It's a cover up! They're building another big coaster!

[HolidayWorldFTW]

For those who have been wondering about what the park might be doing for 2016, here is what the park said to someone on FB:

 

We don't have a gigantic announcement as we did last year for Thunderbird. Please follow us on our blog, newsletter and social media for updates about 2016: http://HolidayWorld.com/Connect

I really didn't expect another big announcement this year. I'm going to assume that improvements will be to infrastructure and the such to help keep people cool and comfortable, and manage traffic inside the park better given what I'm going to guess was a large increase in admissions this season. Even though I'm not expecting a big announcement at all, I'm still very very interested in what the plans are for next season. Any thoughts I throw out about major projects would be something I would see them doing within the next 5 years.

[ZeroGravity55]

^ Yeah that's what I'm expecting for the most part.

 

I saw a Instagram video from someone I know who was at the park today. Apparently Thunderbird's fog element in the launch room isn't working right now. I checked the webcam to make sure it wasn't a one time deal, and it wasn't working then as well. I hope this isn't a permanent thing. Sitting in the front row and being partially blinded as the acceleration g's hit you with full force is a very unique and cool experience. Don't get me wrong, it's not the end all be all, as there are a dozen other things that make Thunderbird a great ride, but I have to admit that I would be slightly disappointed if they had to remove this aspect of the ride for some reason.

[jonskinny12]

When I visited earlier this year, the fog was not working for a couple of my rides. It was definitely better with it working, but it was only a slight disappointment to have it off. I quickly forgot any disappointment though because the ride is incredible.

[Vonni]

I think an Aqua Twist would be a nice Family attraction for the park, and would not cost too much either. HW would probably be outstanding with theming such a ride as well!

[HWLover]

I want to compliment Holiday Workd for their excellent planning. I think it is absolutely amazing that when you analyze the park, you see so many areas where they can expand further. In Fourth of July, the old Soarkler spot. In thanksgiving, The Giraffica/ PP plot, as well as the path to Thunderbird which could accommodate several flats. Also so much water park expansion near Hyena Falls, or even by Mammoth and Kima Bay. This is excellent for an amusement park business because it means they have room to plan so many more rides and things for their guests to enjoy. There are so many corporate chain parks that can't expand any more and each time they have to take down an old ride. Thank you Holiday World for In my opinion and so many others, being one of the best parks out there. And the incredible thing is there is so many ways that they can become even better, and I look forward to the day when right out front they gave an Amusement Today Golden ticket for best park! haha

[TheVoyage]

So, I went Holiday World two weekends ago and was quite disappointed by the mid course brake stopping us completely on "The Voyage". I brought my brother to the park for the first time telling him that no other coaster will come close to how out of control you are on this ride...I even told him when we were riding the ride right before the triple down hill to get ready for the intensity and to my surprise we get stopped completely on the MCBR and then released...I was so ticked off I even tweeted Holiday World just seeing if it was a long term thing and they responded as so...@HolidayWorld: @AaronMJMartin It's all about timing - how fast the train makes it to the half-way spot. Faster trainer are slowed, slower trains aren't.

 

My question to you all is has anybody experienced The Voyage this year without the brake in the middle? I would love to go again, but not when the Legend is more intense than the ride I have at the #1 spot.

[robbalvey]

^ I honestly do not understand the people that complain about this. Maybe they are just purists, maybe I'm just not a fan of The Voyage (I'm not), or it's a combination of things. But all I know is this. Your screen name is "The Voyage", so I'm guessing of *course* you are going to complain about it. I'm also guessing that if the parks guests were throwing the kind of shitfit you are, they might look into doing something about it.

 

Personally, I *LOVED* stopping on the mid-course during the one ride I took this year, because the ride threw me around so much, and I was happy to have the break in the action. I didn't feel that the mid-course took away from the ride at all because it still felt just as rough and out of control as it always has, and how much of that do you really NEED?

 

Again, I'm not a fan of the ride. I took my one ride on it for the year and that was enough. But I get there are others who are opposite of me and are die-hard fans of the ride, and I also get that there are casual fans of the ride who just like it for what it is. Perhaps the latter are the ones that carry the most weight and is who the park listens to the most?

 

All I know is that there are a lot of rides and parks out there that I really, really like a lot. And I understand that not every ride or park that is my favorite is going to always cater directly to *me* but I appreciate them for what they are, even if they have to make minor changes that I don't always agree with. And yes, the mid-course on The Voyage is a minor change. I most certainly wouldn't go tweeting 'ticked off' complaining about stuff and then follow up creating an account on a forum to complain even further. IMO, that's just being a stereotypical, self-entitled "coaster enthusiasts" that thinks the parks should be catering to their personal preferences. Suck it up and just be thankful parks are putting a hell of a lot of work, money, and effort into keeping rides running great, adding new additions, and making the parks a really fun place to visit. Just so sick of all the complaining from coaster enthusiasts.

 

Sorry, just had to rant a little about this.

 

--Robb

Edited August 10, 2015 by robbalvey

[kyleparks77]

^

[Koasterking48]

So, I went Holiday World two weekends ago and was quite disappointed by the mid course brake stopping us completely on "The Voyage". I brought my brother to the park for the first time telling him that no other coaster will come close to how out of control you are on this ride...I even told him when we were riding the ride right before the triple down hill to get ready for the intensity and to my surprise we get stopped completely on the MCBR and then released...I was so ticked off I even tweeted Holiday World just seeing if it was a long term thing and they responded as so...@HolidayWorld: @AaronMJMartin It's all about timing - how fast the train makes it to the half-way spot. Faster trainer are slowed, slower trains aren't.

 

My question to you all is has anybody experienced The Voyage this year without the brake in the middle? I would love to go again, but not when the Legend is more intense than the ride I have at the #1 spot.

While I agree that the ride was better paced, you complaining about it publicly on Twitter to the park was not the way you should've approached it. File a formal complaint to the park through their website and they'll probably thank you for your feedback. Speaking of that, the park is recieving positive feedback from the MCBR slow down since it makes the last stretch of the ride more tolerable to many. So, expect this to be around for a while until a long-term solution is reached.

[AirMBTB]

A few people have suggested to the park they run it brakeless only on certain occasions, like an hour during HWN or that sort of thing. That would be a nice compromise and huge bonus to those who prefer the mid-course brake off. A kindly reminder: if you have a suggestion or complaint for the park, do it in a nice way.

 

Personally, I don't mind the near-stop. Of course, I love the brakeless fuLlThroTtle Voyage as well, but I can ride it more when the brake is on. Plus... what a great view!

[TheVoyage]

I said I was ticked off, but I didn't say that I threw a hissy fit. @AaronMJMartin: @HolidayWorld "Why the complete stop on the MBR of "The Voyage"? Is this a permanent thing now?"

 

Now that that's covered I don't feel like I need to be catered to, but was just caught off guard by the complete stop...Don't worry Robb, I complain about the people who can't handle the high intensity roller coasters, because they're most likely out of shape or their stomach can't handle it, but they still end up riding the coaster anyways, and go off crying about it...Not an enthusiast whatsoever...People are just different like you said...Some people will ride Intimidator 305 for the first time and pass out from the postive G's on the turn...Some people won't ever go back on it ever again...Some people will get right back in line and ride it again...At least I know who you are...

[TheVoyage]

AirMBTB, I think that would be a great idea to have the brake run open on special occasions. Keep in mind that I still love the coaster even with the MCBR on...At night it still wows big time, but El Toro has now closed the gap..

[jonskinny12]

During HWN I rode The Voyage with and without the MCBR multiple times. I appreciated both sides of it and I'm fine with leaving it on most of the time. If that makes the majority of guests happy and helps prolong the life of the coaster, then I'm all for it. I imagine if it was off ALL the time I wouldn't have been able to ride it as much over those 2 days. And the actual experience isn't even that much different aside from the triple down.

 

So I guess put me in the camp of supporting the MCBR being on and being tired of listening to complaints about it.

[HolidayWorldFTW]

Robb Alvey - COMPLETELY off subject but since your here I wanted to tell you how much I appreciate and enjoy the site! I seen you several times at the Thunderbird Media preview but was too star struck to say hi, lol. Plus you were having such fun I didn't want to butt in. Thank you for what you do though! It's greatly appreciated!

[samhimburg]

Oh boy. Is it already time for our bi-weekly Voyage roughness discussion?

 

Don't worry Robb, I complain about the people who can't handle the high intensity roller coasters, because they're most likely out of shape or their stomach can't handle it, but they still end up riding the coaster anyways, and go off crying about it...Not an enthusiast whatsoever...People are just different like you said...Some people will ride Intimidator 305 for the first time and pass out from the postive G's on the turn...Some people won't ever go back on it ever again...Some people will get right back in line and ride it again...At least I know who you are...

 

I mean... I don't have the strongest stomach for rides. I know I have limits. But I ride as much as I can handle and I love them. Am I not allowed to be an enthusiast? I'm not following.

[Password121]

Oh boy. Is it already time for our bi-weekly Voyage roughness discussion?

 

Don't worry Robb, I complain about the people who can't handle the high intensity roller coasters, because they're most likely out of shape or their stomach can't handle it, but they still end up riding the coaster anyways, and go off crying about it...Not an enthusiast whatsoever...People are just different like you said...Some people will ride Intimidator 305 for the first time and pass out from the postive G's on the turn...Some people won't ever go back on it ever again...Some people will get right back in line and ride it again...At least I know who you are...

 

I mean... I don't have the strongest stomach for rides. I know I have limits. But I ride as much as I can handle and I love them. Am I not allowed to be an enthusiast? I'm not following.

These Voyage superiority posts are eerily similar to I305isadrug's I-305 superiority posts recently.

...and I think he just called Robb not an enthusiast because he prefers Voyage with the mid course enabled? That's a stretch.

[HolidayWorldFTW]

Oh boy. Is it already time for our bi-weekly Voyage roughness discussion?

 

Don't worry Robb, I complain about the people who can't handle the high intensity roller coasters, because they're most likely out of shape or their stomach can't handle it, but they still end up riding the coaster anyways, and go off crying about it...Not an enthusiast whatsoever...People are just different like you said...Some people will ride Intimidator 305 for the first time and pass out from the postive G's on the turn...Some people won't ever go back on it ever again...Some people will get right back in line and ride it again...At least I know who you are...

 

I mean... I don't have the strongest stomach for rides. I know I have limits. But I ride as much as I can handle and I love them. Am I not allowed to be an enthusiast? I'm not following.

 

I wouldn't worry about that. I had a STROKE so I have new limits as well, however I was still able to ride all of the coasters at HW this year. Of course I consider myself more of a Holiday World enthusiast, lol.

[samhimburg]

These Voyage superiority posts are eerily similar to I305isadrug's I-305 superiority posts recently.

...and I think he just called Robb not an enthusiast because he prefers Voyage with the mid course enabled? That's a stretch.

 

I mean... I LOVE Voyage. It's easily my favorite ride. I've ridden it both with MCBR and without. It's great either way. And I understand some people don't like it. And that's fine. It's all fine. Some people like some things. Some people like other things. I'll never understand people being so bitter about such a fun hobby.

[robbalvey]

Don't worry Robb, I complain about the people who can't handle the high intensity roller coasters, because they're most likely out of shape or their stomach can't handle it, but they still end up riding the coaster anyways, and go off crying about it...Not an enthusiast whatsoever...People are just different like you said...Some people will ride Intimidator 305 for the first time and pass out from the postive G's on the turn...Some people won't ever go back on it ever again...Some people will get right back in line and ride it again...At least I know who you are...

I really can't tell if you're passing some sort of weird judgement on me and the types of rides you think I like or don't like, or if it's just incredibly bad wording to get your point across. Either way, this post comes off pretty obnoxious, which seems to be par for the course with you far...

Edited August 11, 2015 by robbalvey

[anonymouscactus]

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[DILinator]

And the actual experience isn't even that much different aside from the triple down.

 

I too was fortunate enough to get a couple of rides on it without the MCBR at HWN, and I agree with this. Other than that triple-down, the second half of the ride is still bat-krunk crazy with the MCBR activated. With or without it, I still love that ride!

[Vonni]

Is there still airtime on the triple down?