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^^ The answer depends on who you talk to.... you may have just opened a can of worms.

 

I prefer Kings Dominion simply because there are more rides. BG is a BEAUTIFUL park but I just do not think its really all that like a lot of people say. I prefer KD because of the amount of rides both coasters and flats plus they have a water park. The food is WAY better at BG though.

 

You go to KD for rides and BG for a over all great experience.

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^ The answer depends on who you talk to.... you may have just opened a can of worms.

 

I prefer Kings Dominion simply because there are more rides. BG is a BEAUTIFUL park but I just do not think its really all that like a lot of people say. I prefer KD because of the amount of rides both coasters and flats plus they have a water park. The food is WAY better at BG though.

 

You go to KD for rides and BG for a over all great experience.

 

What other things are worth checking out at BG oppose to just the coasters?

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I love both parks but slightly prefer Busch Gardens.

 

Kings Dominion has better coasters (though BGW has some very good ones too), but the atmosphere is much better at Busch Gardens. The park is beautiful, the atmosphere is great, the food is great and the non-coaster rides are much better than the ones at KD (though KD has a nice selection with rides like Windseeker and Drop Tower).

 

Edit: Griffon is a really fun coaster but it's not overly forceful compared to the older B&M's. I think Verbolten, Apollo's Chariot and Alpengeist are better than Griffon, but that doesn't mean I don't love Griffon because I do. Alpengeist and Apollo (in the back row) are the stars of this park when it comes to coasters.

 

Edit again: As far as non coaster rides worth checking out, you have to ride Escape from Pompei because the theming is awesome... Dark Kastle and Mach Tower are very good rides too. The flume looks fun but it was closed when we went a few weeks ago so I'm yet to ride it.

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Busch for the overall experience. KD for I:305.

 

I'm really torn because I've always wanted to ride a B&M dive coaster but I really want to ride I305 as well. Does Griffon live up to the hype?

 

Not in my opinion. It's probably the least best adult-sized coaster at Busch Gardens.

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I love both parks but slightly prefer Busch Gardens.

 

Kings Dominion has better coasters (though BGW has some very good ones too), but the atmosphere is much better at Busch Gardens. The park is beautiful, the atmosphere is great, the food is great and the non-coaster rides are much better than the ones at KD (though KD has a nice selection with rides like Windseeker and Drop Tower).

 

Edit: Griffon is a really fun coaster but it's not overly forceful compared to the older B&M's. I think Verbolten, Apollo's Chariot and Alpengeist are better than Griffon, but that doesn't mean I don't love Griffon because I do. Alpengeist and Apollo (in the back row) are the stars of this park when it comes to coasters.

 

Edit again: As far as non coaster rides worth checking out, you have to ride Escape from Pompei because the theming is awesome... Dark Kastle and Mach Tower are very good rides too. The flume looks fun but it was closed when we went a few weeks ago so I'm yet to ride it.

 

Would you rank the coasters in the order that you listed them?

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Busch for the overall experience. KD for I:305.

 

I'm really torn because I've always wanted to ride a B&M dive coaster but I really want to ride I305 as well. Does Griffon live up to the hype?

 

My enthusiast friends that I went to the park with absolutely loved Griffon. I personally thought it was over hyped. It wasn't horrible by any means, but also not "OMFG that was amazing" either.

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No, I would probably say

 

1) Alpengeist

2) Apollo's Chariot in the back row

3) Verbolten

4) Griffon

5) Loch Ness Monster (which is really good for an Arrow looper)

6) Apollo's Chariot in any other row

 

All of their coasters are very good. I think Alpengeist is incredibly underrated and put it behind only Raptor, Montu and Afterburn as my favorite invert in America. The cobra roll is nuts, especially in the back.

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No, I would probably say

 

1) Alpengeist

2) Apollo's Chariot in the back row

3) Verbolten

4) Griffon

5) Loch Ness Monster (which is really good for an Arrow looper)

6) Apollo's Chariot in any other row

 

All of their coasters are very good. I think Alpengeist is incredibly underrated and put it behind only Raptor, Montu and Afterburn as my favorite invert in America. The cobra roll is nuts, especially in the back.

 

Does verbolten have a lot of forces? Does it come close to Maverick at all even though it lacks inversions?

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I think griffon is great, and Apollo's Chariot is mediocre. The former has much stronger airtime. Having said that, I305 blows both of them completely out of the water. Busch gardens is a great place, a better park in almost every way, but I305 is undoubtedly (IMO) the best coaster for hundreds of miles around. Drop tower deserves a mention too, excellent ride.

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Busch for the overall experience. KD for I:305.

 

I'm really torn because I've always wanted to ride a B&M dive coaster but I really want to ride I305 as well. Does Griffon live up to the hype?

Griffon is unique due to the diving first drop, but IMO I305's drop is more intense/exciting. Also I305 is arguably the best roller coaster in the world, and BGW has multiple above average coasters.

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Busch for the overall experience. KD for I:305.

 

I'm really torn because I've always wanted to ride a B&M dive coaster but I really want to ride I305 as well. Does Griffon live up to the hype?

Griffon is unique due to the diving first drop, but IMO I305's drop is more intense/exciting. Also I305 is arguably the best roller coaster in the world, and BGW has multiple above average coasters.

 

Really is it that good? I may just have to go to KD.

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- Apollo is arguably the best coaster at BGW. It's long, has nice air, and a fireworks ride at night is unforgettable on that thing.

- Alpengeist is a great ride. It's not as smooth as some B&M's but it still delivers.

- Verbolten is a great family coaster. The crowds tend to eat it up like candy. It's got a cool gimmick and it's pretty forceful. Don't ride expecting something extreme like Maverick though.

- Loch Ness is a classic, but that's about it. Other than the setting, nothing really stands out about this ride.

- Griffon is meh. The 90 degree drop is a cool gimmick, but when you've got enough coasters that can go past that, the gimmick loses its luster. It's pretty tame compared to the other two B&Ms.

 

Other than the coasters, there's plenty of shows and animal exhibits to check out, plus a few water rides and Darkastle. Nothing else really stands out.

 

KD has plenty of other coasters/rides if you're into that kind of stuff. Plus the park is really pulling out the stops for the 40th.

 

Are you really stuck with only one option? Both parks are great in their own right. If you're visiting DC, KD is about halfway between your home base and Williamsburg. If you're into history or beaches, there's plenty of that around the Williamsburg area.

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I don't like comparing the two parks, but I choose KD over BGW. i305 is phenomenal and is not to be missed. Its my current #1. Apollo's is my current #2 steel, #3 overall. You really should just go to both. They both have things that the other park doesn't have.

 

Current top 5 fav's at each park, in order:

BGW: Apollo's, Griffon, Verbolten, Alpengeist, Loch Ness

KD: i305, Volcano, Rebel Yell, (Singing Mushrooms), Dominator, Flight of Fear

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Busch for the overall experience. KD for I:305.

 

I'm really torn because I've always wanted to ride a B&M dive coaster but I really want to ride I305 as well. Does Griffon live up to the hype?

Griffon is unique due to the diving first drop, but IMO I305's drop is more intense/exciting. Also I305 is arguably the best roller coaster in the world, and BGW has multiple above average coasters.

 

Really is it that good? I may just have to go to KD.

 

nothing at BGW comes anywhere near i305's intensity. not even the same ballpark.

 

but having said that, Apollo's Chariot, Alpengeist, Verbolten, Loch Ness Monster, and Griffon are all great rides. KD has more coasters, and it has the best coaster, but BG has more *great* coasters than KD. does that make sense?

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nothing at BGW comes anywhere near i305's intensity. not even the same ballpark.

 

Alpengeist's cobra roll would like to have a word with you.

 

Griffon, Alepengeist, Apollos Chariot & Verbolten.... all excellent attractions.

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Does verbolten have a lot of forces? Does it come close to Maverick at all even though it lacks inversions?

 

No... but it's a great ride. I was under the impression that this was more of a family coaster but after riding it I think it's far too intense to be a family coaster. It's not in the same league as Maverick but it's really good.

 

*Still not as good as Big Bad Wolf was though

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The indoor "Black Forest" portion of Verbolten is fun, with some surprising pops of airtime.

 

As others have said, KD's I305 is one of the best coasters in the world, and Volcano and Dominator are both good (although the latter was a bit rough last weekend).

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Granted, I have not ridden Verbotlon yet. My favorite coaster at BG is Loch Ness Monster. I find Apollo's Chariot and Griffin boring. Alpengeist is fun but nothing spectacular to me.

 

Now KD I like every coaster - even Hurler. Plus I prefer the flats at KD - they have more thrilling ones in my opinion.

 

As you can see its all a matter of opinion. Just go and have fun at both.

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Tough choice. Kings Dominion has a great line up including i305, and Volcano which are two must-ride roller coasters . But BGW is also a beautiful park that you can't miss.

 

As others have said, KD's I305 is one of the best coasters in the world, and Volcano and Dominator are both good (although the latter was a bit rough last weekend).

 

I've noticed that Dominator has a pretty bad rattle in the front row which had my head vibrating like crazy. The back row is fine, however.

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You should be riding Dominator in the back row anyway. I think it's the most forceful floorless coaster there is when you ride it in the back row.

 

I realize that being the most forceful floorless coaster is like being most ferocious bunny rabbit, but it has a nice whipping action down the first drop.

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In the past, I'd found Dominator's back row to be the worst place to ride it. I rode in the third row last Sunday, and it gave me a nice shot to the head on the loop.

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Rebel Yell has always been superior to me than Dominator. Dominator is rough in the last half of the ride. Flight of fear is good. But volcano and i305 cant be missed. Verbolten is intense in the black forest section. Griffon is a bit over hyped. Its a one trick pony. Curse of Dark Kastle is really awesome. Apollos is great. Frankly you should just go to both parks. they're both great.

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^No argument over visiting both parks.

 

Rebel Yell is fun if you remember to stay off the wheel seat. Sit in the middle seat of any of the cars, and your spine will be grateful.

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