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I hate to say it, but this looks like just another recent B&M to me: smooth and forceless. I'll be surprised if this is really any better than Swarm. It just seems to be going much too slowly to generate any real force in the tightest and twistiest bits. Of course, I've been wrong before, and I legitimately hope I am again in this case, but I just don't see anything exceptionally wonderful here.

 

A rider at commercial filming day said there were forces in the closing helix.

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I hate to say it, but this looks like just another recent B&M to me: smooth and forceless. I'll be surprised if this is really any better than Swarm. It just seems to be going much too slowly to generate any real force in the tightest and twistiest bits. Of course, I've been wrong before, and I legitimately hope I am again in this case, but I just don't see anything exceptionally wonderful here.

Wing riders aren't going to be terribly forceful rides. With the train design they have, it would put a lot of extra stress on the trains themselves if they went through every element at 4 G's. Think of it this way. Grab a yard stick in the middle, then start shaking it back and forth. See how much it bends? Well multiply that by a few thousand pounds, and that's what these trains go through. Forces are always going to be limited on wing riders. Besides, the point of these rides is not to be forceful, but to have a completely open ride experience. Not every ride has to be OMFGZZZZZ forceful to be good.

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^ Except that Furius Baco was pretty intense!

 

It has that OMFG moment of airtime after the launch and it was forceful enough to knock this chicks boobs out!

[coastertube]http://www.themeparkreview.com/coastertube/play.php?vid=baco_boobs_t0y2[/coastertube]I'm not knocking the B&M Wing Riders or anything, but I'd LOVE to see them build a Wing Rider that intense!

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The interactive elements on this thing look amazing! I can't vouch for the ride experience itself since I haven't been on it but visually it looks great. As good as Wild Eagle at Dollywood looks I think the ride experience would have benefited from having a few of these "fly through" elements. I'm interested to see how people review and rank X-Flight, reviews of Swarm and Raptor seemed to be more good and less great which I could see this being consistent.

 

^^^Steve I agree with overall theory of your 1st grade physics lesson but Wild Eagle was surprisingly more forceful than I was expecting, the Wing Riders might actually have the potential to provide an intense ride experience.

 

I'm flying into Milwaukee for work in a few weeks and will have the majority of a day, can't decide if this thing is worth the trip yet or not (I have almost every other credit at the park, the good ones at least).

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Reports coming in are that the ride is quite intense, the pacing surpasses that of B:TR, and it's disorienting until the keyhole. Doesn't let up until the end. Sounds like we may have a winner.

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I hate to say it, but this looks like just another recent B&M to me: smooth and forceless. I'll be surprised if this is really any better than Swarm. It just seems to be going much too slowly to generate any real force in the tightest and twistiest bits. Of course, I've been wrong before, and I legitimately hope I am again in this case, but I just don't see anything exceptionally wonderful here.

 

And having riden neither of them.....

 

X-Flight is pretty forceful. It didn't knock your socks off, but the elements were so well paced, you don't really have time to sit and wait for the next one. I wouldn't say disorienting at all, unless maybe you're at the back of the train and you can't see where you're going really well. They've got a winner.

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I hate to say it, but this looks like just another recent B&M to me: smooth and forceless. I'll be surprised if this is really any better than Swarm. It just seems to be going much too slowly to generate any real force in the tightest and twistiest bits. Of course, I've been wrong before, and I legitimately hope I am again in this case, but I just don't see anything exceptionally wonderful here.

 

And having riden neither of them.....

 

X-Flight is pretty forceful. It didn't knock your socks off, but the elements were so well paced, you don't really have time to sit and wait for the next one. I wouldn't say disorienting at all, unless maybe you're at the back of the train and you can't see where you're going really well. They've got a winner.

 

Feels faster than some thought it looked, then, it sounds like?

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I guess I was expecting it to be rather forceless, so X-Flight really exceeded my expectations. It's by no means a winged version of Batman, but it definitely holds a quick pace throughout the entire ride. I was very impressed. It will be interesting to compare it with Wild Eagle when I ride it in July.

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I guess I was expecting it to be rather forceless, so X-Flight really exceeded my expectations. It's by no means a winged version of Batman, but it definitely holds a quick pace throughout the entire ride. I was very impressed. It will be interesting to compare it with Wild Eagle when I ride it in July.

 

Thanks for the report! Consistently good things coming in so far about it! Glad it is exceeding expectations. Yeah, I thought comparing it with Batman was a bit apples to oranges, myself, but I read someone saying the pacing was good like Batman's.

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Trust me it will be popular. The whole wing rider concept seems to blow the GP's mind. The key hole and hanger seem to be especially loved. Plus SFGAm hasn't got a new coaster in 10 years.

 

So Dark Knight, Little Dipper, Rajun Cajun and Superman: Ultimate Flight don't count?

 

The ride looks AMAZING!!!

 

Yeah,I was saying the same thing....that's far more than a certain park in Md. got within that same timespan.

 

I'm hoping that future wingrider installations will feature more varied elements than what we've seen out of this first batch so far,this particular layout just doesn't look too thrilling to me as IMO it relies too heavily on inline rolls but of course that's just my .002 & YMMV.

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Reports coming in are that the ride is quite intense, the pacing surpasses that of B:TR, and it's disorienting until the keyhole. Doesn't let up until the end. Sounds like we may have a winner.

 

It wouldn't be the first time that initial opinions of a ride have been buoyed amidst all the festivity and good feelings of a Media Day.

An example of something similar:

A few years ago, a friend of mine and I were driving up to Alpine Valley in Wisconsin for an Aerosmith show. We were on I-94 right near the Wisconsin border and driving behind a limo. My buddy remarked that "Wouldn't it be awesome if Steven Tyler was in that limo?" It was just a silly comment brought on by what was a boring, uneventful ride to that point- wasn't meant to be taken seriously. A few minutes later, we passed the limo and sure as the sun, there is Steven Tyler- windows down, smoking a cigar and on the phone. We waved, he waved back- it was one of those stories that no one would ever believe if you told them. Luckily we had a camera and were able to snap a few pics. It was incredible enough that we're driving next to Tyler, but that earlier comment made it surreal. You better believe that was the best damn Aerosmith show either of us had been to, even if the actual performance wasn't exceptional.

 

It's still encouraging that just about every review seems to agree about the helix finale being pretty forceful and the roll being plain fun. Hopefully I'll be able to see for myself before long.

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^ Except that Furius Baco was pretty intense!

 

It has that OMFG moment of airtime after the launch and it was forceful enough to knock this chicks boobs out!

[coastertube]http://www.themeparkreview.com/coastertube/play.php?vid=baco_boobs_t0y2[/coastertube]I'm not knocking the B&M Wing Riders or anything, but I'd LOVE to see them build a Wing Rider that intense!

 

The problem about Furius Baco is that the seats (especially the outer seats) are very rough which might be because of the high g-forces on the ride.

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I hate to say it, but this looks like just another recent B&M to me: smooth and forceless. I'll be surprised if this is really any better than Swarm. It just seems to be going much too slowly to generate any real force in the tightest and twistiest bits. Of course, I've been wrong before, and I legitimately hope I am again in this case, but I just don't see anything exceptionally wonderful here.

 

And having riden neither of them.....

 

X-Flight is pretty forceful. It didn't knock your socks off, but the elements were so well paced, you don't really have time to sit and wait for the next one. I wouldn't say disorienting at all, unless maybe you're at the back of the train and you can't see where you're going really well. They've got a winner.

 

Criterion Number 1: Is the damn thing any fun? Sounds like the answer is "yes." (I enjoyed Wild Eagle, so I'm reasonably sure I'll enjoy X-Flight.)

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So for those you who have ridden it, wheres the best seat?

 

My favorite seat was the front right, although the front left was unavailable due to the video camera setup. Nothing beats seeing the keyhole element coming right at you!

 

The very back right and left side seats also provide great rides.

 

Below are a few photos I took from the media event today. The rest can be found online here: http://www.coaster101.com/2012/05/10/x-flight-photos-and-review/

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Oh, hello there, X-Flight! You're looking mighty chipper today.

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The mannequins are somewhat creepy. I'd pay to spend a day up there!

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X-Flight is photogenic.

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Misty yellow jacket support makes everyone scream.

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It's a nice touch.

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The X-Flight station.

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Panoramicness.

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The problem about Furius Baco is that the seats (especially the outer seats) are very rough which might be because of the high g-forces on the ride.

And this is based on your own personal experience with the ride?

 

Seriously, I'm sick of reading your stupid crap.

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^Maybe, but this ride looks all-around better than any Superman flying coaster.

 

Love the layout and Six Flags has done about as well as they can with the standards they set. It has those kind of "holey cow" looking elements like that flip right after the lifthill, and from the POVs it has an intensity no other wing rider before has achieved. I also like those helixes, they really help give the ride a "complete" experience, and actually add to the ride time without kinda tailing off the speed at the end.

 

I could very easily see this becoming a staple throughout the chain. It has that kind of universal appeal IMO.

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