Worlds of Fun (WOF) Discussion Thread

[PhantomPoster32]

Well considering they took the trim off the first drop, it has been allowed to go full speed through the first section since it reopened. The trim is now right before the end of the reprofiled sections.

[chadster]

Does nobody think that Timber Wolf is pretty boring anyway? Maybe its just me.

 

I rode it the day it opened and at the time it was considered a bad ass woodie, but times and technology have changed. For what it is and for what it was, it's still a good layout/design, just maybe needed a little more TLC over the years than what it got.

[PhantomPoster32]

Well I am what my name says I am (InsiderMan).. Okay now I today ,had a full conversation yesterday with the boss of the bosses boss..David Bywater the big man at WOF. He said for sure Planet Snoopy is getting an expansion and some other new things in the park. Now this was in June. Today was a different story he said , oh some little stuff . I asked him anything big , he quite frankly said the word hasn't got back to him yet on rather or not WOF is getting a new coaster . He also stated that if we do it would go right in the Americana section of the park. About a week ago I also saw a Cedar Point Manager leaving the office ..Mhnmmmmmmm Interesting

 

Interesting considering the park's GM is named Frank Wilburn not David Bywater (he is just in charge of operations). You'll have to forgive me for calling BS on your "insider" status.

 

Also the CFEC executive staff have been doing audits at each park so the fact you saw a manager from HQ is moot.

[InsiderMan]

Sorry For The Mishaps If I Should Say, Remember What You Said ... (operations). He's still as important . At the end of the day i still talked to him and you did not so you can call it BS i call it facts

[WOFanatic]

Well I am what my name says I am (InsiderMan).. Okay now I today ,had a full conversation yesterday with the boss of the bosses boss..David Bywater the big man at WOF. He said for sure Planet Snoopy is getting an expansion and some other new things in the park. Now this was in June. Today was a different story he said , oh some little stuff . I asked him anything big , he quite frankly said the word hasn't got back to him yet on rather or not WOF is getting a new coaster . He also stated that if we do it would go right in the Americana section of the park. About a week ago I also saw a Cedar Point Manager leaving the office ..Mhnmmmmmmm Interesting

While I'd love to believe you, I have a hard time doing so. I'd love to be proven wrong though.

[PhantomPoster32]

Sorry For The Mishaps If I Should Say, Remember What You Said ... (operations). He's still as important . At the end of the day i still talked to him and you did not so you can call it BS i call it facts

 

Operations is not the Boss of Bosses or whatever you called him.

Yes you may have talked to him. Yes he may have said something. No you have no idea who I am or whether or not I am connected to the park. Again, I call your bluff, your "insider news" is bogus.

[cfc]

Sorry For The Mishaps If I Should Say, Remember What You Said ... (operations). He's still as important . At the end of the day i still talked to him and you did not so you can call it BS i call it facts

 

Operations is not the Boss of Bosses or whatever you called him.

Yes you may have talked to him. Yes he may have said something. No you have no idea who I am or whether or not I am connected to the park. Again, I call your bluff, your "insider news" is bogus.

 

Your Friendly Neighborhood Site Moderator kindly suggests that you two carry on your discussion via private messages. We're all quite aware of what you think of each other.

 

This ends now before it devolves into this.

 

 

Thank you.

Edited July 26, 2015 by cfc

[Jaykethekid]

I honestly don't think planet snoopy will get expanded. Besides where else could it go besides on the other side of mamba? I could see a new coaster go for the American section as that is right where the insanely large plot of land is. But I doubt they would as it would kinda be a tight squeeze to get from the current paths between Steelhawk, Patriot, and tomberwolf to get a plaza and station.

[PhantomPoster32]

You don't think it was just a coincidence that the road by WindseekerHawk ends in a wall, do you?

They'll probably take out some of the game buildings between the old Lumberjack Snacks building and Joe Cool Arcade.

 

Regarding expanding Planet Snoopy, you have the entire hill where the queue for Scrambler was (along with that ride pad). You can also build on the hill behind Camp Bus or even remove Boo Hill haunt house.

[WOFanatic]

I honestly don't think planet snoopy will get expanded. Besides where else could it go besides on the other side of mamba? I could see a new coaster go for the American section as that is right where the insanely large plot of land is. But I doubt they would as it would kinda be a tight squeeze to get from the current paths between Steelhawk, Patriot, and tomberwolf to get a plaza and station.

Frank Wilburn told us at Coaster Mayhem that they put Steelhawk where it was so they can expand into the area behind it in the future. Smart move, I do have to say. It would be great for them to build a Tempesto clone back there, or even better, a launched B&M. I don't think the park needs more lift hills at the moment, but I would not complain one bit. Launch is what j would prefer though.

[baileybrucem]

As great as new rollercoasters are, does Americana really need anything...? I've always thought it would be cool if WoF got a whole new area (that huge field), but with the theming of the park it doesn't make sense. The secret other section of the world: Oceana!

 

Oh well, if the park were to ever actually get a significant land addition it would probably end up being called "action zone".

I wish the people who planned new rides and theming put as much thought into things as people on the forum do.

Steel hawk? Really? And let's not even talk about Dinosaurs and a Pretzel shop in Africa!

 

Perhaps the area behind steelhawk will be a grand new entrance with a few flats and a coaster plaza, then the current entrance gets absorbed into orient and Scandinavia. The entrance could also have an indoor, air-conditioned restaurant with quality food and service. Hope is good for the heart.

[PhantomPoster32]

I think it is inevitable that Americana will receive more attractions in the future as that is where a majority of the accessible expansion pads are located. The infrastructure is basically already laid so it make sense to utilize that.

 

With that being said, if I had a say, Europa would be the next area to receive an upgrade:

NOTE THAT THIS WOULD BE DONE OVER TWO YEARS

 

YEAR ONE (2016):

1. I would move the Le Taxi Tour to over by WindseekerHawk and have it wind around that area and perhaps back behind Patriot a little. The queue area and load station would be where Rockin' Reeler was located (the strange brick patio circle next to Patriot's Landing). Area where Le Taxi Tour was would be razed and fenced in for 2016 Season

 

2. Move Le Carrousel to Planet Snoopy. It is really a kiddie version of a carousel any way and it would receive more ridership up there and give that area a "new" ride.

 

3. Using the area where Bounce-a-Roos, former Le Grand Prix Remote Cars, and Le Carrousel -- put in a Disk-O coaster. I am thinking that the hump could go over the midway there at the train crossing and then the spike. The midway might have to be angled some to help with clearance of the track.

 

4, Open up the entire floor of Autobahn Bumper Cars again

 

5. Where the drink stand is near Autobahn - and that entire flat area behind it and next to it - put in a set of Flyers. Queue could be over by Autobahn.

 

YEAR TWO (2017):

1. A B&M coaster where Le Taxi Tour was located. I don't really care on what variety.

 

This would help bring people back into Europa and then they would be able to shut down Forum Road again, where there is currently no where to eat or anything really other than the Forum which is only used for the Extreme Sports Show (that would be next area to rip out and put stuff in.

 

Thoughts?

[lk2500]

I visited the park on Thursday 7/24. Basically all the advice ya'll gave me was spot on, thanks. Just a few random thoughts...

 

One train operation on Mamba is painfully slow. Especially with people meandering all over trying to store their stuff on the other side of the train, sheesh. Mamba was down around 1 but came back up around 2 or so. I wanted a front seat ride but it was still one train operation in the afternoon with at least a 5 train wait for the front seat. We lucked out and somebody let us up in line to a one train wait in about the 3rd car. Does this thing ever run two trains?

 

As brought up before, WOF clears out in the afternoon as peeps migrate to OOF. My brother and I were able to get 2 front seat rides on Prowler with virtually no wait (1-3 train wait) around 1:30PM. We did have Fast Lane+ but really didn't even need them the lines were so short.

 

Concession operations was horrible. The large concession stand near Cyclone Sam's had one girl running the entire counter - taking orders and retrieving food. WTF? Open up another freaking register, wow.

 

Anyway, great trip overall. Fast Lane+ was awesome as ever, especially for my 2 kids skipping the water slide lines in the afternoon.

 

P.S. - I went to the Royals game Friday night, what a cooker! 95+ with extreme humidity and heat index of 120+. I grew up in Overland Park but my kids (18 and 21 year olds sons) grew up in Seattle. They said they've never quite experienced anything like that type of heat, especially the walk through the parking lot to the stadium with the heat radiating off the pavement and cars, lol. It sure didn't keep the Royals fans home but I wish they could have at least scored a few runs, oh well....

[baileybrucem]

Alright everyone, I've contemplated doing this for a year or so, and I got bored so here it is.

 

The picture below is Worlds of Fun, but with a bunch of fancy colors. Each one represents a phase of expansion I've thought about. I'd like to clarify before all of you read this that the image is only a representation of what I've dreamt up, and the odds of it happening are sadly pretty much nothing. In no particular order, here are what the colors mean:

 

Green I've always wondered about what could be placed in the woods between Scandi and Europa, and a coaster is plausible if the bumper cars are moved. The kiddie bumper cars in Americana are useless, so if those were torn out the bumper cars in Europa could be moved there. That opens up ample room for a family-style coaster, perhaps something along the lines of Backlot Stunt Coaster but in the woods, or a small arrow-esque coaster.

 

Orange While I absolutely hate the Rotor/ Finish Fling, I'd be sad to see it go. It is one of the few older charming rides the park has, and it still remains rather popular. The area behind it, however, is prime for new attractions. By building a bridge over the train depot, that wooded area is opened up and can be used for something new in Scandi. The long extended orange lines into the parking lot are just my thoughts on a possible coaster path, it doesn't matter what kind. A giga or hyper or winged coaster would be cool, but whatever.

 

Red We keep bringing up a new entrance, and I finally think I've found a plausible location. The Orient Express was right up against the parking lot, and there is now space for something there. By building a new entrance, the parking is a much shorter walk to the park AND the handicapped spots are still the closest to the entrance.

 

Blue If a new entrance was built, the land all the way around Patriot opens up. I'm thinking the Northeastern most section of the blue could be an expanded orient, simply by relocating or removing the skyliner. The rest of the blue could be (Surprise!) an expansion of Americana, and there are endless possibilities for what could be built back there. A coaster and multiple flats, a dark ride, some restaurants, and new live entertainment could all go over there.

 

Yellow If WoF ever saw this much love, Planet Snoopy would obviously need to eventually see some TLC. By building under the Mamba, there is more room for kiddie rides and a coaster that sort of goes into the woods. Perhaps that is another good location for an arrow-type ride.

 

Purple The Prowler's plaza has always felt like a bit of a dead end, and while it probably isn't reasonable I think it'd be neat to see that connected all the way around to OoF. There is tons of room in the woods back there and it could serve as both additions for OoF and WoF sides. The water attractions of course would branch from OoF's current boundaries, and the rides from WoF's. It would make both parks seem more combined, rather than two separate entities. I love the idea of the boundaries between the two being blurred almost, with just a sign not gates and checkpoints. This also appears to be possible without removing the dinosaurs, so then after they are gone there is room for more stuff.

 

Pink Perhaps this is the best place for a giga coaster. Something completely dominating over Oceans would be pretty breathtaking, and it would really round out the skyline.

 

Brown Water coasters are cool, and cedar fair has never added one, but OoF could use it. The water park is pretty nice as it is, so a water coaster would be great and offer something no other park around has.

 

White If somehow all of this became reality, WoF would absolutely need a good hotel. The corner of the property is perfect because it is close to the highway and already next to the village. I'm thinking hotel-breakers type building?

 

The grey is expanded parking, and the black is just a revamp of the "Good Time Theatre". I know these ideas are the very definition of unrealistic, but with 400 million this could happen! I also realize I paid little regard to access roads or storage facilities, but pish-posh, who needs those for a successful park anyways? While I'm at it, the entire park should be re-paved with concrete instead of Tarmac. That'd be a job! With no risk and no finite amount of money, this is what I've though of over the years. The things i'd love to see include a screamin' swing, an S&S drop tower, an indoor coaster, and new entertainment.

 

Again, I know the market isn't there and the money isn't there, but in a perfect world I would make this park the Disney for thrillseekers, with better food and entertainment included. It'd be like a Hollywood Studios Disney Cedar Point on cocaine. I'm headed off to college in less than a month, so I probably won't be posting as often, but I wanted to get this idea out before I leave.

 

Oh, and down by the hotel in the corner of the map, Steak n' Shake.

[Vonni]

^ That's so cool! I really wish it could be reality.

[PhantomPoster32]

It is going to take a little bit, but I am going to go through your plan and give my thoughts and offer some counter proposals here and there -- might take a few posts.

 

Green I've always wondered about what could be placed in the woods between Scandi and Europa, and a coaster is plausible if the bumper cars are moved. The kiddie bumper cars in Americana are useless, so if those were torn out the bumper cars in Europa could be moved there. That opens up ample room for a family-style coaster, perhaps something along the lines of Backlot Stunt Coaster but in the woods, or a small arrow-esque coaster.

 

BUMPER CARS: I am all for moving the adult bumper cars, but I don’t feel that current kiddie bumper car building is sufficient enough. What I propose is removing that entire building and putting it at grade with the pathway between it and Detonator. Then you can have a new DODGEM building. The kiddie bumper cars would receive a new building up in Planet Snoopy (where the need to be anyway).

 

I honestly do not want them to remove one of the last wooded areas in the park - so I am against a coaster in that area.

 

COUNTER PROPOSAL FOR EUROPA:

1. Disk-O coaster in place of the Autobahn and have it run from the restrooms to the train tracks. Entrance would be under the hump of the track and then the queue / station would be opposite side of the rest of the area. Exit can be between spike closest to the station and the train track.

2. Move Le Carrousel up to Planet Snoopy and put a new flat ride in the building that is left – maybe a Himalaya style ride.

3. Move Le Taxi Tour to near SteelHawk

4. Build new B&M coaster on the former site of Le Taxi Tour. There would be a new plaza for the coaster, which would result in the entire asphalt of the area being removed and replaced with concrete.

5. With the added traffic to this area, the restaurant will need to be upgraded. The restrooms will probably need to be expanded. Déjà vu Gifts can remain the Retro shop OR they can change it to be the gift shop for the new coaster.

 

Orange While I absolutely hate the Rotor/ Finish Fling, I'd be sad to see it go. It is one of the few older charming rides the park has, and it still remains rather popular. The area behind it, however, is prime for new attractions. By building a bridge over the train depot, that wooded area is opened up and can be used for something new in Scandi. The long extended orange lines into the parking lot are just my thoughts on a possible coaster path, it doesn't matter what kind. A giga or hyper or winged coaster would be cool, but whatever.

 

That area features a HUGE ravine making it next to impossible to put in a new area. If they do anything with this area (and quite literally it would be one of the last areas to get anything) it would be to put in a station for a coaster for behind FInnish Fling and then have it run out into the parking lot area or somewhere similar.

 

Red We keep bringing up a new entrance, and I finally think I've found a plausible location. The Orient Express was right up against the parking lot, and there is now space for something there. By building a new entrance, the parking is a much shorter walk to the park AND the handicapped spots are still the closest to the entrance.

 

Here are my problems with using the Orient Express lot. First of all, the terrain would have to be completely changed. It would also require a lot of attention to the run off (water) and some of the settling of the ground. Next you'll have to deal with the fact that entrance would be even farther away from the back lots. Then you run into the problem of where are you going to have the path from the new entrance enter the park? The most logical spot would be straight into the Orient, but you have Spinning Dragons in the way. So where do you go?

 

Blue If a new entrance was built, the land all the way around Patriot opens up. I'm thinking the Northeastern most section of the blue could be an expanded orient, simply by relocating or removing the skyliner. The rest of the blue could be (Surprise!) an expansion of Americana, and there are endless possibilities for what could be built back there. A coaster and multiple flats, a dark ride, some restaurants, and new live entertainment could all go over there.

 

I honestly think that this area will become parking before it becomes part of the park. Patriot has successfully cut this area off from the park and with a new entrance area, this area gets cut off from Orient as well.

 

Yellow If WoF ever saw this much love, Planet Snoopy would obviously need to eventually see some TLC. By building under the Mamba, there is more room for kiddie rides and a coaster that sort of goes into the woods. Perhaps that is another good location for an arrow-type ride.

 

Wouldn't make more sense for an expansion of Planet Snoopy to take up where the Heart America Theatre lawn is? That area is already located inside the park and infrastructure is already present for electric, water, etc.

 

I'll reply on the rest of the "colors" later

[Jaykethekid]

I really like what you did. Though, most issues seemed to be due to terrain. I could see part of the large land plot being made into a parking lot and the entrance would go between the new and old parking lot. Then add a coaster that interacts with the entrance, and boom you got a modern cedar fair park. Kinda off topic, but I think worlds of fun feels a bit stuck in the 90's for cedar fair parks. It doesn't have that clean feel that the others do. Worlds of fun looks and feels very busy.

[PhantomPoster32]

All right. I decided it was time to mock up what a front gate could look like using the Orient Express lot. It could work.

[Mertens S. Elias]

Personally, I like the Worlds Of Fun entrance just the way it is, it looks beautiful and has some charm to it. What I want them to do with Orient Express' location is but in a Gerstlauer Eurofighter/Infinity coaster. And if they are to go with B&M, I'd want it to be a floorless coaster. And if the want a launch coaster, I'd want them to get a premier launch coaster similar to Sky Rocket or Full Throttle, or even something like Mr. Freeze or the spagetti bowl coasters. Now that I think about it I want them to get a dueling track launch coaster similar to The Chiller and call it Dueling Dragons or something like that since the entrance may be in the Orient section along with Spinning Dragons and Bamboozler.

[PhantomPoster32]

I think if you grew up with the Americana entrance you would think the current gate has all the charm of a service entrance, which is exactly what it was originally. Only used on peak attendance days.

[PhantomPoster32]

News out of the park is that next year will be a small flat and a new front gate and surrounding area

[theminislimshady]

I think if you grew up with the Americana entrance you would think the current gate has all the charm of a service entrance, which is exactly what it was originally. Only used on peak attendance days.

 

Just wondering, when was the Americana gate scrapped? My first trip to WOF was in 2002. I don't remember whether is was there or not, because at the time I was only 3 years old (16 now). Also, I've heard that some of the old ship is still there next to the bridge to SteelHawk. If this is true, does anyone have any pictures of it today? I go to WOF twice every year and I haven't noticed it.

[WOFanatic]

News out of the park is that next year will be a small flat and a new front gate and surrounding area

 

I'd be very happy for a new entrance. A flat will be fun, but a new gate will almost make the park feel new again. I love it.

[PhantomPoster32]

I think if you grew up with the Americana entrance you would think the current gate has all the charm of a service entrance, which is exactly what it was originally. Only used on peak attendance days.

 

Just wondering, when was the Americana gate scrapped? My first trip to WOF was in 2002. I don't remember whether is was there or not, because at the time I was only 3 years old (16 now). Also, I've heard that some of the old ship is still there next to the bridge to SteelHawk. If this is true, does anyone have any pictures of it today? I go to WOF twice every year and I haven't noticed it.

 

It was one of the first things Cedar Fair did. So 1996/1997 was around when it was shut down. Then the boats all started getting removed.

 

As to your question, the hull to the Henrietta is still there kind of. The old ticket booth for Grand Prix Raceway was part of the Henrietta

[baileybrucem]

News out of the park is that next year will be a small flat and a new front gate and surrounding area

 

News from where... A ride op?

 

 

Proof or it didn't happen

Edited August 1, 2015 by baileybrucem