Carowinds Discussion Thread

[JonnyRCT3]

I think this takes the cake as the worst CF coaster name.

 

Fury 325. Wrath sounds 100X better.

[thrillseeker4552]

^It is pretty pathetic, but nonetheless the coaster sounds cool. I thought Coast Rider at Knott's was a pretty sad name as well, especially with GhostRider in the same park!

 

So, since we are 99.99% sure that this coaster will be 325 feet tall (tallest non-launched), I assume it will need a pretty beefy chain lift--bigger than Leviathan's I would guess--unless B&M finally decides to go with the elevator lift system. They have been surprising us lately with the family coaster, backward coasters, new trains/restraints, etc. I definitely look forward to the official announcement.

[cwgator]

The comments on Carowinds Facebook are PRICELESS. Everything from people saying it's going to be a new season pass parking lot to a new waterpark entrance. This one however takes the cake:

[GigaG]

The comments on Carowinds Facebook are PRICELESS. Everything from people saying it's going to be a new season pass parking lot to a new waterpark entrance. This one however takes the cake:

 

I mean, it is quite a bit different than Afterburn. I even needed a sec to register why this was stupid.

[rcjp]

...30 million (for the coaster apparently)

Wikipedia says Leviathan was 28 million, so this hopefully will be a little longer with a decent brake run (or are the extra 2 million just for the additional height?)

[BrianGC]

I'm going to the park tomorrow. I haven't been since they built Intimidator. I know Mondays shouldn't be too bad, but it is July, though. What do those of you more experienced with the park think the crowds will be like?

[jarmor]

Get there first thing in the morning and knock out the flyer. Shouldnt be that busy coming off of a holiday weekend though. Get to the water park (if they are your thing) as soon as it opens and hit the two new slides. I heard its only one line that leads to both of them. I was at the park a few weeks ago and everything in the water park was a walk on early on the wed after memoral day.

[Dom497]

...30 million (for the coaster apparently)

Wikipedia says Leviathan was 28 million, so this hopefully will be a little longer with a decent brake run (or are the extra 2 million just for the additional height?)

 

When you factor in inflation, in today's dollars, its actually 28.8 million.

[rcjp]

^Oh .... .

[jarmor]

...30 million (for the coaster apparently)

Wikipedia says Leviathan was 28 million, so this hopefully will be a little longer with a decent brake run (or are the extra 2 million just for the additional height?)

 

When you factor in inflation, in today's dollars, its actually 28.8 million.

 

he was saying what it cost back then...not what it would cost today ...but thanks for the tidbit !

 

I would hope a portion of the cost went into the design phase so basically, it wouldnt cost as much to research and develop a ride of that caliber again.

[GigaG]

We have blueprints-

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203008330747237&set=pcb.711392258931812&type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203008330667235&set=pcb.711392258931812&type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203008330787238&set=pcb.711392258931812&type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203008330827239&set=pcb.711392258931812&type=1&theater

 

Looks like Leviathan with a giant helix section added on.

 

Also, the blueprints are here-

 

http://www.screamscape.com/html/carowinds.htm

[Atter]

Looks like it will be a great ride! The layout looks like a better version of Leviathan

[adamd]

I don't get the point of parks doing this. This doesn't look too different from Intimidator (given the blueprints are legit and its a B&M it actually looks almost exactly the same) just as Leviathan doesn't look too different from Behemoth (besides the height and Behemoths helix). I get obviously the height difference is marketable but why not add an Intamin giga like MF or Intimidator 305? I get the fact B&M tends to me more reliable, but I think its worth the risk to build something completely different and something that people tend to say are better and more forceful rides (Intamin vs B&M gigas). A ride like Intimidator and Intimidator 305 are completely different and even though I haven't been to Canada's Wonderland the general comments I see are Leviathan and Behemoth are very similar just one is higher. Cedar Point it makes sense as Magnum and Millennium are two completely different rides.

 

I thought La Ronde was crazy for having two non boomerang inverts, BUT at least they're from two different companies (even though one completely sucks) and two different layouts.

Edited July 7, 2014 by adamd

[JonnyRCT3]

I don't get the point of parks doing this. This doesn't look too different from Intimidator (given the blueprints are legit) just as Leviathan doesn't look too different from Behemoth besides the height.

 

The Leviathan/Behemoth argument is legit, but this layout looks nothing like Intimidator.

Source

[Atter]

I always thought that leviathan was about height and speed and behemoth has tons of airtime, I could be wrong, I just thought I remember hearing that this was what the park was going for in terms of differences.

[adamd]

I don't get the point of parks doing this. This doesn't look too different from Intimidator (given the blueprints are legit) just as Leviathan doesn't look too different from Behemoth besides the height.

 

The Leviathan/Behemoth argument is legit, but this layout looks nothing like Intimidator.

Source

 

I would actually say this compared to Intimidator looks far more similar than Behemoth and Leviathan. The only difference I see is the 2nd turnaround goes from left to right in the blueprints while Intimidator goes right to left. Watch parts of this video at a time and follow along with the blueprints it almost seems like they're nearly identical. I just don't know if there are going to be camelbacks like on Intimidator.

 

Edited July 7, 2014 by adamd

[JonnyRCT3]

Intimidator is nothing but camelback after camelback in a straight line. What about that layout gives you that idea?

[adamd]

Intimidator is nothing but camelback after camelback in a straight line. What about that layout gives you that idea?

 

As I said above I just don't know if there will or won't be camelbacks back to back as I can't tell on the blueprint. If you know for sure this blueprint is indicating no camelbacks than by all means, but if indeed there aren't I'd think that be more boring to just go straight make a turn go straight some more than go through the helix. So its either a near identical ride to Intimidator (just taller) if there are camelbacks or a ride that just goes straight and makes a turn (seeming even more boring IMO). Either way I still stand by my original point they should have built a giga from a different manufacture.

[JonnyRCT3]

^This is a B&M speed coaster so of course there will be camelbacks, everyone loves airtime. However, Intimidator is nothing but standard camelbacks. This layout indicates lots of curves and not too much time moving in a straight line. So the riding experience should at least vary more than that of Levi/Behe.

 

My rough idea.

Edited July 7, 2014 by JonnyRCT3

[RyanTPM]

Looks slightly different to Leviathan, better!

[rcjp]

I think the reason Leviathan isn't really as good as it could be was because they tried to make it different enough from behemoth by including fewer hills and more speedy bits, which I felt is not what B&M does the most. I don't think we will get (at least soon) a B&M giga like I305 so if they were building a giga in a park with no hyper they probably would have gone for the standard formula (lots of hills) only with a bigger ride.

That being said, I am looking forward to seeing how this will turn out due to lack of straight bits (possibly camelbacks).

[coasterchitchat]

This looks a bit better than Leviathan. Looks like a bit more exciting but I've never been on a B&M giga, just MF at CP. Looks like they'll have to remove some roads and trees.

[rcjp]

I also wonder if they'll go for a similar lift structure to the one Leviathan has (maybe they will as it seems to save some steel).

[coasterchitchat]

I also wonder if they'll go for a similar lift structure to the one Leviathan has (maybe they will as it seems to save some steel).

 

Maybe have a 45 degree lift to save some space. It's 325 feet, tallest non-launch coaster. Do you think it could somehow reach 100 MPH? That'll put Carowinds on the map?

[JonnyRCT3]

^I don't know about 100. But a 325 foot drop could theoretically achieve 98.6 mph.