vacoaster Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 The track resembles the turn out of the station and also if you look at the track right under the part where the train is rolling in the picture you can see the same pattern in the spine of the track. Again... This is a Hyper same colors as Nitro except this coaster has light orange rails. vs. and
thecoasterkid Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 Went to Wonderland today with Andrew (Coaster_Dude) and a couple other friends, so of course I had to take some construction shots. Time to whip out the zoom lens! Another angle on that curvy track everyone was all in a fuss about. From the way the support will attach it really doesn't look like a particularily special piece of track. Footers out in the water. Tough to tell, but there is now a very large concrete pad poured in this area. I'm thinking it's the station location! Very odd section of footers, and what I can only assume to be supports for the station. So far it really all just seems to be bits for the station, brake run, or on the way to the lift hill. Another angle on the track that's arrived. Looks like the curvy piece of track has a new friend! More track has made its way to the parking lot! The gate was wide open...I could have walked up and touched the track!
vacoaster Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 Your right, correction to my earlier statement. I am pretty sure that its not an inverted. Either Sit Down (hyper or looper) or floorless. In addition to my previous post the parts also resemble the floorless Superman coaster in Spain. You can see similar parts in this picture. . I am not thinking that it will be a floorless yet but I need to see a few more pieces in particular any station pieces that look like this: or (without the floor mechanics of course) because the station track for floorless coasters have additional features along the spine of the track that allow them to attach the dropping floor mechanism. So until I see a piece like that I am going to lean heavily towards a Hyper or a Sit-down looper (non floorless)
yankees15 Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 Nice update, I love the colors on this thing! Why didn't you go up to it for some nice close ups?
307 Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 Well those curvy pieces definitely look less like parts of an inversion than people were saying. Nice pics! We were thinking of heading out today as well to check out the scene, but it was too damn hot.
thrillrideseeker Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 I know this is going to sound crazy but I think that it might be a recreation of "Talon Grip Of Fear!" Just look at the colors and the track pieces. Plus invert supports vary in size, so we might just have seen some of the smaller ones. ~Matthew
CoasterNut17 Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 -A diving machine. Everyone here is saying "The supports are too small!". Well, look at Oblivion. Its supports are small. (At least on B&M's website). Canada hasn't seen anything like it. All I can say is that it MUST be a diving machine or a floorless. Well, the supports can be the same, but the track is way different than the usual B&M track that everyone's saying. Just to compare, here are some pictures. Coasternut "got that out of my system" 17 Here is a section of Dive Machine track. Notice how much WIDER it is than the standard. It had to hold a lot of extra weight at one time. Here is a section of standard B&M track. (Floorless, sitdown, hyper, etc.)
niiicolaaah Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 Yeah, no way it's a dive machine. Also if you'll notice on the dive machine track, the ties go straight across, whereas in the other B&M track, they kind of go in a V at the center. I still say it's a hyper. Goliath at La Ronde is only 174 feet tall, technically not a hyper. Could be a floorless too, as Canada does not currently have one. I'm going to rule out dive machine because of the track, invert because LaRonde has one and CW has a SLC, and standup because both parks have one (and who wants a standup anyway?! ).
jpdupuis Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 WOW, wait a minute, and if it was a new thing, like, a b&m floorless, dive machine with a hyper coaster part, with inversions, so all of the flash pictures would takes sense!! I opt for this!!!
steel Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 I have a really hard time believing that the GP will be able to tell the difference between this coaster and Goliath. As far as they know, Golitath is over 200 feet. And they can't very well say that Canada hasn't seen anything like it if it most definitely has. Not that I'll be disappointed if it's a hyper. I just think a floorless is most likely at this point.
Carnage Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 ^ The average person around here doesn't even know Goliath exists.
christianscoasters Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 ^^^^^Thanx for clarifying! Got it now!
jpdupuis Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 I already rode goliath, and it is a REALY good coaster, its provides a lot of air-time and the out-and-back layout is fine, for sure, it would be better if it would not be a out-and-back. I thing that the problem with B&M is that their coasters are deteriorate from a year to an other, it shakes and even starts to gives headhache! I am excited to know what will wonderland give us!
sio Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 If we forget the Hypercoaster probability, it cannot be a diving machine. You can see with the railway images that the ties beetween the rails are flat with a Diving machine and the pics which are taken at CW shows "twisted" ties.
Carnage Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 I thing that the problem with B&M is that their coasters are deteriorate from a year to an other, it shakes and even starts to gives headhache! That's not a B&M problem, it's a parks maintenance problem. There's plenty of B&Ms out there which are quite old, and yet are still smooth as the year they opened. Then there's other B&Ms that in one year develop square wheels, like Scream at SFMM.
Carnage Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 ^ It's a figure of speech. "square wheels" refers to when a coaster gets rough and starts to vibrate.
Tanks4me05 Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 WOW, wait a minute, and if it was a new thing, like, a b&m floorless, dive machine with a hyper coaster part, with inversions, so all of the flash pictures would takes sense!! I opt for this!!! Uhh, technically Griffon and SheiKra do that. They are both Floorless Dive Machines, they are both Hyper Coasters (technically, because they are 200 and 205 feet tall) and they both have inversions (SheiKra has one Immelmann, Griffon has two Immelmanns.) So, yeah, it's either Floorless or Hyper. Or even better yet: HYPER FLOORLESS!
Brother Jay Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 I thing that the problem with B&M is that their coasters are deteriorate from a year to an other, it shakes and even starts to gives headhache! That's not a B&M problem, it's a parks maintenance problem. There's plenty of B&Ms out there which are quite old, and yet are still smooth as the year they opened. Then there's other B&Ms that in one year develop square wheels, like Scream at SFMM. Just look at ROS at DL as an example of this. Was great 6 years ago, now I hear it is a bone breaker.
Scaparri Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 I don't know, it'll probably end up being a hyper, but I'm just going to be slightly ballsy and say it's a floorless. Just basing it off the clue that it's something Canada has never seen before. The hyper argument makes sense though. I'm probably just dreaming though, because part of me just wants to see a massive looper get built, like back in the late 80's, early 90's when we saw the 170+ft, 7 inversion loopers from arrow, or rides like Steel Phantom, Vortex, etc. But again, I recognize that I'm just dreaming and going on a long shot here.
Homer Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 As for the rough B&M's (gee that sounds like such an oxymoron), the only one I thought was painful was Iron Wolf at SFGAm (and that was the first B&M ever made). Like Scott, I hope this coaster kind of harkens back to the days of Steel Phantom where it was basically a "hyper looper." I'm waiting for the day we see a true "hyper looper" (SheiKra and Griffon kinda count, but they're not true hypers).
Airtime&Gravity Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 While I would like to see a floorless coaster, I have been disappointed with B&M's newer looping coasters, and as a result, I would prefer a true hyper. Canada needs a standout coaster (Canada's Wonderland just needs a good coaster), and a hyper would give me a reason to go to the park. However, if Cedar Fair decided to seriously re-track the wooden coasters/other major coaster improvements, then I would have a reason to go too. I just hope it isn't a very simple out-and-back coaster like Canada's other "hyper" coaster.
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