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If they're really "overhaulin" Mantis, they should replace Maverick's restraints with the i305 straps so I can actually re-ride that one as well!

Only complete pussies have issues with Maverick's restraints. For the rest of us, they are just fine.

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If they're really "overhaulin" Mantis, they should replace Maverick's restraints with the i305 straps so I can actually re-ride that one as well!

Only complete pussies have issues with Maverick's restraints. For the rest of us, they are just fine.

 

 

I'm in fucking love with your posts, you need your own TV show for Travel especially in the UK with your somewhat dark humor

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Only complete pussies have issues with Maverick's restraints. For the rest of us, they are just fine.

 

ha ha ha. I'll admit they're better than B&M restraints (the old-school ones), but they're still painful for short people like myself. Seeing that they're completely useless makes me hate them even more. I'm thankful we have the t-bars on MF and TTD, but Maverick's just annoy me. I love the ride too, just can't ride it more than once (or rather justify the wait more than once).

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Maybe if they could either re-profile Mantis or just completely scrap it they could be the first coaster in the US with 8 inversions. They really need another good inverting coaster, all they have is Gatekeeper and Raptor.

 

Though I don't think the layout will change I, personally, would like to see them try to at least break the American records for most inversions on one coaster since the most we have is seven. Don't know how they would be able to add four more inversions to the existing layout but I would love to see a zero-G since I don't see the inclined loop staying.

 

Will the ride go back to three train operation like Mantis was originally supposed to run or will they stick with two?

Why couldn't they keep the inclined loop?

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I'm in fudging love with your posts, you need your own TV show for Travel especially in the UK with your somewhat dark humor

All of my mean spirited humor gets cut from the Travel shows...

 

Producer: "You can't call people pussies!"

Me: "But they ARE pussies if they are going to bitch about a stupid restraint on a perfectly good ride."

Producer: "I know that, but you just can't say it on the show."

Me: "Then what do you want me to say?"

Producer: "I dunno, tell me how tall the ride is or something..."

 

*sigh*

 

But yes, people who complain about Maverick's restraints are, in fact... pussies. And they deserve whatever pain they get while riding.

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If they're really "overhaulin" Mantis, they should replace Maverick's restraints with the i305 straps so I can actually re-ride that one as well!

Only complete pussies have issues with Maverick's restraints. For the rest of us, they are just fine.

Tall, but slightly fat people might not have the restraint come down all the way, so they have something to complain about. Cedar Fair also COMPLETELY dropped Intamin so I doubt that will be happening. One more thing. If Matt Ouimet is interested in Intamin, I would go out on a limb and guess that it would get lap bars like on Altair CCW-0204. I305's restraints might not do good because the GP would say "OMG! Can't breathe!" Altair's lap bars would provide a much more open air experience.

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If they're really "overhaulin" Mantis, they should replace Maverick's restraints with the i305 straps so I can actually re-ride that one as well!

Only complete pussies have issues with Maverick's restraints. For the rest of us, they are just fine.

Tall, but slightly fat people might not have the restraint come down all the way, so they have something to complain about.

No, they don't. They are pussies.

 

If Matt Ouimet is interested in Intamin, I would go out on a limb and guess that it would get lap bars like on Altair CCW-0204.

And then we would just get a whole new breed of pussies that would complain it's too tight on their legs. See: Skyrush.

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If they're really "overhaulin" Mantis, they should replace Maverick's restraints with the i305 straps so I can actually re-ride that one as well!

Only complete pussies have issues with Maverick's restraints. For the rest of us, they are just fine.

 

They can at times, especially if you're a kid and you have thin legs. My son was 12 when I took him on the first time and he got stapled. Didn't stop him from getting right back on (We both love Maverick and usually ride 7-8 times when we visit).

 

We learned, if you push out on your restraints (Keep your hands on the restraints and push) on the one ejector hill and both MCBR's, you won't have any problems. Skyrush on the 'wings' is worst. No matter what my son did, he got stapled. But he was fine on the inside. Of course a little pain is no deterrent for him, since both rides give such great rides.

 

Some of the best rides do require a little defensive planning depending on your body type.

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I'll never understand why people have issues with Maverick's restraints. There's literally no headbanging on this ride at all... anywhere. No leg pain either... we rode it 5 times in a row without getting off during ERT the other night and there was no pain at all. Just an awesome... awesome ride.

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Some of the best rides do require a little defensive planning depending on your body type.

True coaster nerds learn this, and also realize that if you want parks to build an intense ride, it might come with a little bit of discomfort and take some time to learn how to do it right. And once you do get the hang of it, it's not a problem at all. Kind of like having great sex.

 

Side note - I'm assuming those people who bitch about Maverick's restraints have not had great sex and thus cannot relate to this concept at all.

 

--Robb "For some of us, though, this just comes naturally." Alvey

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Some of the best rides do require a little defensive planning depending on your body type.

True coaster nerds learn this, and also realize that if you want parks to build an intense ride, it might come with a little bit of discomfort and take some time to learn how to do it right. And once you do get the hang of it, it's not a problem at all. Kind of like having great sex.

 

Side note - I'm assuming those people who bitch about Maverick's restraints have not had great sex and thus cannot relate to this concept at all.

 

--Robb "For some of us, though, this just comes naturally." Alvey

 

Rob, I'm now a very confused parent so thanks! My son is now 14 and you make a good point, but I don't want to make that analogy yet, LOL

 

But seriously how can you be a roller coaster enthusiast and not learn to ride certain coasters 'defensively' so you get the most enjoyment out of them? I made sure I taught my son because he loves them as much as me. I want that to continue. (And no, I never found a way to make SOB enjoyable, but we have both enjoyed Mantis because I showed him.)

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^ Exactly. I get that Maverick neck chops some people based on their height or whatever. But after it does it *ONCE* you should be able to figure out how ride to make it not do that ever again. And if you can't, you're dumb. You need to hand in your coaster geek card and learn how to knit or play hand bells or something...

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my neck got destroyed my first ever ride on maverick. lol. i really had no idea what i was riding, the layout, nothing. after the first one, i learned how to ride it and now totally enjoy it. i still hit my neck/head coming out of the launch tho.

 

if i was tighter in the restraint, aka taller and bigger, i'm sure i wouldn't ever hit my head or even be able to. but there not that big of a deal, at all.

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Some of the best rides do require a little defensive planning depending on your body type.

True coaster nerds learn this, and also realize that if you want parks to build an intense ride, it might come with a little bit of discomfort and take some time to learn how to do it right.

 

I know you've ridden FAR more coasters than I have, but as a designer, I have to take issue with your statement. We know that it is possible to have intense rides without unnecessary pain, so when they add stupid OTSR's just to make the ride feel safer it is just that, stupid. I can defensively ride Maverick without head banging now that I've ridden it enough. But, I'd rather ride it like MF and TTD and throw my arms up and just go with the ride. You can't do that while "defensively riding" a coaster. Like most things, I know this is a personal preference, but I'd rather ride i305 (even before the reprofiling) over and over again than Maverick any day because I can just ride and enjoy. Since it's my job to find problems with things and come up with ways on fixing/improving them, this is why I hate those restraints...I know it could be better without them.

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^ Pro Tip #1 - Sit in the front row of the car. Pro Tip #2 - Lean in to the turn. You'll never hit your head or your neck again.

 

I do those things already. But I still have to hold on to the restraints right by my shoulders and apply a lot of pressure. I want to put my hands up!

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^ Pro Tip #1 - Sit in the front row of the car. Pro Tip #2 - Lean in to the turn. You'll never hit your head or your neck again.

 

Exactly. You can also lean forward. I have drilled into my son's head on Arrows with OSR's to lean forward and keep your head out of them. But once you know the layout, you can anticipate as Rob just said.

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^ Pro Tip #1 - Sit in the front row of the car. Pro Tip #2 - Lean in to the turn. You'll never hit your head or your neck again.

 

I do those things already. But I still have to hold on to the restraints right by my shoulders and apply a lot of pressure. I want to put my hands up!

 

Maverick is not a coaster you need or want to keep your hands up on. Pretend it's Raptor where you can't. It provides the thrills. Just sit back and enjoy. MF is the one to keep your hands up on.

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^ Exactly. I get that Maverick neck chops some people based on their height or whatever. But after it does it *ONCE* you should be able to figure out how ride to make it not do that ever again.

 

Maverick's neck chop is nothing compared to Tornado at Bakken. And even that you can brace for, after it happens the first time...

 

I didn't find Mantis to be as rough as some of the other B&M stand-ups, the track layout is decent enough and it might make a good floorless coaster, being over the water.

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