coastermoosh Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I can't think of any launched coaster that launches backwards from a sitting position. Mummy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Knotts Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 ^ Good one! I was going to mention that, but it's been so long since I've ridden it, I'd completely forgotten what it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightbeawannabe Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 ^^Not so much launched, but kind of 'pushed.' The top speed is 45 mph, but that is when the train is facing forward. It felt kink of weak to me. All it has to do is push it down a small hill and off she goes, hardly at breakneck speed. I don't think a major roller coaster exists that really launches you. Mummy is kinda kicked, and Everest is just kinda dropped but has some boosters immediately after. Does anybody know of some crazy Japanese ride that launches you backward? Some kind of shuttle, maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnnyman Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I think that the most ideal solution, if they want the ride to shoot people backwards, is: 1) Rearrange the seats to face backwards, not the whole car. 2) Tilt them backwards so riders are practically laying on their backs, but not all the way (maybe 35-60 degree angle). This will greatly reduce forces since the riders will have a platform to put their feet on. 3) The restraints should be like X2 or De ja vu's restraints. 4) So now instead of riders simply feeling a little weightlessness, they will have a "hanging" feeling at the top. I would honestly be scared ****less when I am at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six Flags Enthuseast Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 McDonald's also has a wikipedia page about incidents. Just sayin' (and no offense, Elissa). The argument arises pretty frequently that Intamin's are unsafe, for whatever reason. But honestly, isn't saying that Intamin's are deadly like saying that its the cell phone's fault that someone died while texting and driving? Look at that list of incidents, a majority of them are operator errors, as are most amusement accidents, not the manufacturers fault. Sure, maybe they should install some redundancies, but the real problems with these accidents is human err. Once again, THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS! Sure, there have been a few accidents involving manufacturing problems, but, as said, most problems are caused either by the operator, management, or riders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atem122 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Does the Arrow shuttle loop count as a backwards launch? I can't really say that I'm looking forward to 2011 at Magic Mountain unless something "big" actually does happen to superman. All of the rumors just sound really lame / a complete waste of a new attraction. Of course, money IS an issue, so they can't just tear that mother f**ker down and build something cool there, but hopefully management surprises us and turns Superman into something...well...cool and actually worth while. Of course, whatever I do, I'm definitely going to ride whatever Superman turns into, and continue going to the park because one year of *possible* lameness (well I guess it'll be two) really wouldn't stop me from visiting. Hell, I've been to Knott's 3 times this year, and they haven't added any new rides at all since '08! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightbeawannabe Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Does the Arrow shuttle loop count as a backwards launch? I guess that does count! And here I was being a skeptic. I cannot believe this wasn't mentioned earlier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6flagsbrad Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 ^I was also thinking about that too, but how fast do those coasters accelerate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six Flags Enthuseast Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 ^I haven't ridden one or seen one in action, but they don't appear to accelerate very fast. I think it uses a really old (correct me if I'm wrong) spring loaded launch, where a spring is compressed and then let go to accelerate the train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6flagsbrad Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 ^According to rcdb, Diamond Back at Frontier City launches 45mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themeparkman25 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 (edited) delete Edited January 20, 2011 by themeparkman25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six Flags Enthuseast Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 ^I suppose that's somewhat quick, but I don't think it's quite S:TE speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willthethrill Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I think that the most ideal solution, if they want the ride to shoot people backwards, is: 1) Rearrange the seats to face backwards, not the whole car. 2) Tilt them backwards so riders are practically laying on their backs, but not all the way (maybe 35-60 degree angle). This will greatly reduce forces since the riders will have a platform to put their feet on. 3) The restraints should be like X2 or De ja vu's restraints. 4) So now instead of riders simply feeling a little weightlessness, they will have a "hanging" feeling at the top. I would honestly be scared ****less when I am at the top. I like this... but to elaborate on this idea a little... Keep the seating configuration the same as it is now during launch then as the cars are accelerating down the track tilt/recline the seats on their back so you're then facing towards the sky as you start your ascent up the tower. Now you're upside down for the ascent up to the top and fall back to earth head down facing away from the tower. Far-fetched yes, but what an frickin awesome and unique feeling! and actually seemingly feasible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 ^ How does that seem feasable? My guess, thy will somhow make it launch it at 100 mph or faster and make it go up the hill higher than it does. Thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willthethrill Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 bah. gotta be more to it... whatever they do needs to be MARKETABLE. Feasibility is all about imagination. I dunno, use a third control rail like X, or independent system like the vekoma flyers. Just tryin to toss new ideas around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djcoaster Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Hi everybody! I read the 5 previous pages and I’ve got to expose my idea. It has maybe already been said, but anyway… Has anybody thought of a lying on the back launch? They could also add a tunnel effect or fire like on Bizarro theme. First, you’re looking on the sky accelerating, then you reach the top like on a tower with a lot of airtime. At the maximum height you stay a few seconds (or not, effects…), and then you drop like on Demon drop. So: • Lying on the back launch = new sensation • Explosion, water, storytelling, whatever…^^ • A (soft ?) modification of the seats / vehicle (maybe a floor for riders) => it could be a reasonable cost • And you get a great view without seeing any metal structure I imagine it would be cool and new enough ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoflake15 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 It would also be an improvement if the cars could be more open. If you're not in the front row you don't get much of a view of anything. Could they make the cars floorless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagiMountainMan Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 WOW! This thread has gone downhill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcg19 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 (edited) Deleted by user Edited December 29, 2010 by rcg19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinphenix Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I'm just wondering why the supposed new coaster for 2011 is gone. Now we have "Mr Six kiddie coaster" and a rehab for Superman. I'm still waiting for a S&S Combo tower and new flat rides (matterhorn, top spin, break dance, ...), but a B&M diving coaster would be a great add too ! It won't be before 2014 for a thrillseeker new coaster? that's really far ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFORCE Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I would guess you would have to be laying feet first to be the most comfortable during the launch, but then when you get up the tower that can't possibly be pleasant to be hanging upside down. I disagree, I think being head-first would be the most comfortable, because you'd be pushed into the seat instead of the top of the harness/restraint. Launching like that shouldn't be much different than riding the launch version of an S&S Tower, and the transition might not be much different than a pretzel loop on a B&M Flyer. WOW! This thread has gone downhill! Why, because everyone is civilly talking about Superman, a ride you seem to hate with a passion and bash in every thread you visit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagiMountainMan Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 ^lmao Your way off base. My point is that everyone is throwing out insane ideas like backwards launching! This is usually an interesting thread but is now being clogged with these crazy hopes. I agree with one of the previous posters that thinks the mountain should get some flats or drop tower, which is what I think would be the best choice for Superman Ride of Scrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcg19 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 (edited) Deleted by user Edited December 29, 2010 by rcg19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrightFest1408 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I think that the most ideal solution, if they want the ride to shoot people backwards, is: 1) Rearrange the seats to face backwards, not the whole car. 2) Tilt them backwards so riders are practically laying on their backs, but not all the way (maybe 35-60 degree angle). This will greatly reduce forces since the riders will have a platform to put their feet on. 3) The restraints should be like X2 or De ja vu's restraints. 4) So now instead of riders simply feeling a little weightlessness, they will have a "hanging" feeling at the top. I would honestly be scared ****less when I am at the top. I disagree with 1 and 2.Then How are you go to be facing backward. 1)TURN the whole Car Backwards. 2)Have soft straps OSTR. your 4)That the whole point been scared ,its just like X2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPmaverick Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Superman Ride of Scrap. You just proved his point. And I think the idea of a backwards launching coaster would be kind of cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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