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Vertical = work done above the ground. When supports or track are placed (or in any construction project) when the structure goes up, its called going vertical. That was fast. Just seems like recently we learned of it, now its already got stuff up.

If you were familiar with the area before, alot of work was done to get the ride in there.

That (and the SFDL one) are the only instances where Intamin is at fault. However, Intamin had already changed their ways before those incidents. MF was using correct hoses and a better design for their retracting brakes. Sucks that this wasnt passed along to SF sooner to fix it. Who knows, maybe it was. I really only recall the one "crash" but maybe there were two. Yes, Perilous Plunge. How could I forget that name?!

Hitler[AoE]: ur never getting in my city *Hitler[AoE] has been eliminated.* benny-tow: OMG u noob you killed yourself Eisenhower: ROFLOLOLOL Stalin: OMG LMAO! Hitler[AoE]: WTF i didnt click there omg this game blows *Hitler[AoE] has left the game* Thats classic. Thats SUCH a good read.

And the only legitamte fault of a manufacturer was the Hydro incident (or is it Hydra at Knotts? Cant remember). Apparently that person was of correct size. The SFNE thing was, imo, totally the parks fault for altering the seat belts AND allowing him to ride.

Actually Dragster cost much less, but 25 was the total for the themeing and entire redo of the area. The real cost of just the ride was a bit less. Actually, CP's profit margains are WAY higher. Sure, not many other parks can afford that (apart from SF) but so what? Rather them spend 6 mill on a sweet wooden coaster like The Voyage than another rocket (unless its like Storm Runner).

^^I wasnt trying to say they arent G's, thats for sure. Ive ridden 2 of the 3 here in the states (whoop dee doo) and it is incredibly intense. One of the most intense feelings Ive ever felt on a coaster. So you are right. I was just trying to describe what it does to your body, thats all.

The old lady was obsessed with wood... heh. I copied it to my HD. Anyone have any idea how to get this thing workin with XP? I might be missing a few files. if you could, zip up the contents and send it my way at coasterreal@gmail.com Would LOVE to use my knowledge now on it.

From page 33 So your brother is Chris Kataan?! (well, the guy on the left looks ALOT like Kataan)

John Deere. If you wear JD stuff, you better have something to do with farming or agriculture. Otherwise, it just doesnt mean anything. Anthony "dates a farm girl and loves it" Harrison

^I ditto that. All you have to do is ride in the middle row of any car and voila, its pretty smooth.

As you said (and Ive been saying elsewhere) coaster1, Intamin - NOT AT FAULT.

This is the exact trip I have planned for my Vacation this coming week. W00tness! (sorry, couldnt resist)

I refuse to say soda. Thanks guys, that helps alot. Especially the 20 dollars off, thats insane.

Anyone know if they have a pop can discount deal going like most of the other parks? It look like I will be hitting up Hershey, Dorney and Great Adventure.

Actually, the pretzel loop has neither true positive or negative G's. That entire ride is actually on Accleration G's. Imagine it: You are laying on your back in the bottom of the pretzel with like 3-4 g's pushing on your chest. If you were sitting up, they would be pressing on your head, not chest. The G's applied on S:UF are the same applied on a launch coasters launch. The G's are applied to your chest from that direction. Its my understanding that the body can handle more Acceleration than it can regular G's but theres a catch. When you are sitting down the G's push down on your head from above. The first thing this does is cause blood from your head to move down out of your brain and lower in the body. Once your eyes lose enough blood thats when you grey out, then black out. Some people experience harder breathing but in general, its not bad. Now, for acceleration G's, the G's are applied to your chest. This pushes blood back in your body. Not down. This means that you can still lose blood and grey out and such, but its a bit harder. What does hurt you in acceleration G's are the effects on your breathing. Ever had someone larger than you sit on your chest? Yea, its the same idea. The g's compress your lungs making it far harder to breathe. This in turn means you arent churning out oxygenated blood like you used too. So while the blood isnt pouring out of your head like I said above, its also not getting the oxygen it needs. This isnt science, most of this is just me using basic medical stuff and smashing it together with what I know G's do to our bodies. Feel free to add or subtract from it.

^ The ride you talk about is gone now. It was called the Moonsault Scramble and pulled 6.5 G's.

The G's are distributed the same on any sitdown ride - Invert or not. I however have felt that without a floor to press your feet on, you become more suspectable to G's. Most fighter pilots in training are taught to "tense" up during High G tricks and turns. To do this they tighten up their muscles in their abs and legs and also try to push their feet through the floor. What this does is lock blood in the lower part of the body and keeps blood in the upper in the upper where it needs to be. Without a floor for your feet you can only tense up your muscles to help prevent that. Some people disagree but I still think with your feet on the floor that most people tense up and push their feet down in an automatic reaction, hence why some people cant handle Inverts as well as sitdowns.

First, a few things about G's. The human body can sustain monster G-Forces in small quantities. If you were to jump up in the air and then plop down on say, a sofa or a bean bag (lol) you would feel something over 20G's. (Im taking this from a medical study) What about a car crash? I ended up running head on into a guard rail at 50mph (to avoid smashing someone else, all worked out ok) and after I had someone do some math, we figured I pulled in the area of 50G's. The difference in those 2 is that the first one is positive G's the other is acceleration G's. Acceleration G's push against your chest from in front or behind you. Regular G's push from under or above you. The body can handle way more Acceleration G's than it can positive G's. Most people start to grey or black out between 4-7 regular G's. However, that number is a bit higher for Acceleration. Maybe 5-9. Where this all gets interesting is the time its held. When the pilots do the centrifuge, remember, by the time they get to 4-5 G's they already have held 2, 3 and 4 for almost a minute or 2. Most coasters only hold 4-5 G's for between 2-4 seconds. To my knowledge the Helix of Death there on Goliath could be the longest duration of high G's on a coaster and its only like 4 seconds long. 4 seconds is a long time but its a far cry from any flight training. So remember, next time you black its usualy not from high G's, but from g's being held for a long time. The human body can handle high doses of G's (safely I might add) if it only lasts a second or shorter. Once you start to hold those for 2, 3, 4 or 5 seconds you keep blood from getting to places it should and thats when you lose color and then sight alltogether. As for me, I have never blacked out, greyed out or even gotten tunnel vision. I have gone as far as held my breath for half a ride before an intense part to see if I could start to get tunnel vision. I havent found anything yet that will do it. But I shouldnt complain. That only means that I have a very strong heart that can handle higher pressures. Wont find me complaining.

Those buildings are beautiful. They have some awesome architecture, I love it. Great pictures, safe trip home Robb!

Jorb!!! Thats awesome. Woah! We have a breakthrough! You get a Gold Star!

One of the best parts of Geauga Lake? Theres only 4 or 5 flag poles where there once stood 6 Check it out next time, its funny. Legend and Raven are awesome all day, you just have to ride in the right seats. Preferablly the back seat. I found it to be crazy during the day but I got the last ride of the night on Raven around 9:20 and it was RIDICULOUS. The best ride Ive ever had on a coaster. Period. Same for Shivering Timbers. Theres not a ton of air in cars 1-5 but especially in the very last seat, the airtime comes to life and its pretty crazy.

The smurfs and doritos are great. Thats classic.

Neither - dont like cola. Only cola Ill drink is Dr. Pepper. Id rather have Gatorade, Powerade and if I must drink pop its Sprite, Sierra Mist, 7up, Mt. Dew (any flavor especially pitch black!). Mostly green and clear pop...not sure why, just a trend.

Oh come on. Anything can be deemed a weapon these days If hes got a permit and has taken safety courses (which may not have) I never have problems with it. In most cases, kids brought up with gun safety have an INCREDIBLY low rate of accidents. why? They know what not to do with guns. Its people who just think "Guns are cool, I want one" that are a hazard. I saw a 5 year old with a .410 and felt safer with him than other people ive seen with 9mm.