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Cool, something else to make Skyrush's line shorter! In all seriousness, I think a park with an RMC, the most batshit insane Intamin ever built, and a host of other fantastic coasters might be in the running for best coaster park in the country once this is up and running.

It should be noted that a “Season Pass” doesn’t mean what most people think that it means. It means that it’s good for the Summer season with mystery restrictions. It’s $139 for a pass that’s good from July 1st through September 30th and subject to blackout dates, though they won’t tell you what those blackout dates are. This means that if they offer this for each season assuming price point remains the same, an annual pass is $556 and has blackout dates, making it the most expensive annual pass for any park in America with blackout dates that’s currently offered for sale. I’d actually be excited to buy this if they offer it for Q1, but also how are you going to sell a pass with blackout dates and not tell people what they are?

^I definitely understand the surprise/shock factor of seeing the restraints pop up after hearing "All clear," but this is still a very different situation than "one of the operators almost dispatched our train with the restraints up."

Wildcat closes July 31 per official Facebook. Check the comments….

In the context of the RMC era, Maverick doesn't hit quite as hard as it used to, but I remember my first ride being a total shock to the system. Maverick was a big risk to take at the apex of the Coaster Wars and it disrupted the whole industry because nobody else was doing that.

I would assume it's an RMC. They compete heavily with SDC, and an RMC would be different than their other two wooden coasters. The only reason they would go with a "traditional" wooden coaster is if GCII gave them a good deal on their new track system or something and it turned out to be much more cost efficient than steel. I don't think the public would be too excited about a new wood coaster based on how they let Prowler fall apart. Hopefully WOF gets their own version of Goliath.

It's certainly an odd choice to build a new wooden coaster just a few hundred feet away from the park's last new coaster, which is also a wooden coaster. Though, that's assuming that this project is related to the ongoing clearing adjacent to Boomerang. The permit lists that this foundation system has a total valuation of $785,000, so I don't imagine they'd spend that much on concrete just to add additional bracing to either of the park's other wooden coasters. That leads me to believe it's something completely new. It just feels weird that they'd build another wooden coaster. The only thing that could separate itself enough from Prowler is a Gravity Group with some sort of gimmick element to it, whether it be a shuttle coaster or something that inverts.

Gold Striker from CGA. Edit: Or, in a more hilarious universe, Grizzly from CGA.

Let's go baybeee!!!

A wooden coaster?

Agreed it's pretty short but for the location and the park, reasonable. For those wondering what it looks like from in town here you go.

My wife and I were at the park Wednesday and Thursday. We stayed at Breakers both nights. Our room was about the size of a closet, very clean, modern, and it faced the lake. It was perfect for its location, and all we needed. Pricey, but I can't imagine experiencing Cedar Point any other way, over about five visits, aside from our one coaster campout. We didn't take advantage of early entry. For that matter, we didn't even get there before noon. Nice scenery to jog around, breakfast, and Starbucks held priority over rushing or marathoning rides. Everything was done at our own pace and we could have ridden four times more. FL+ as usual for us. Work hard, play hard. Our longest wait was about 30 minutes for Steel Vengeance, if that. Everything else was 5-10 minutes. No complaints about any of the operations. They were much better than average. Rides went down here and there, but everything was operational most of the day. Our train blew a wheel on Maverick, Thursday evening. I'm guessing it was just the poly wheel outer layer, but there was a crowd taking pictures of it while we were stuck on the brake run for a half hour. We got exit passes, so that was cool. I don't get the locker complaints on Steel Vengeance. Stop over thinking it. Ideal? Nah. But, the system works fine, and I didn't see any of the mass people talk about. Just leave it alone. I have two ride effects I've always said I would be bummed if they stopped working. The Banshee lift/drop scream at King's Island, and the water cannons on Maverick. I didn't see the water cannons working, neither during our visit, nor during a youtube video shot a few weeks before. As insignificant as it is, I really enjoyed the effect. I hope it returns. Regardless, the second half of the ride, starting with the launch, has me constantly debating if I like Maverick better than Millennium Force. Regardless of how numb or boring enthusiasts have gotten, they're both incredible rides. Gatekeeper serves its purpose. It's beautiful, great for daring families, and comfortable. Yet, I couldn't help to have it be a one and done this trip. It's not that it isn't a good ride, because it is, but there are so many other options in the park. Famous Daves was absolute trash this time around. Like, we could have eaten anywhere else in the park and it would have been twice as good. The new health food stand by the river rapids ride is great. Melt was awesome as usual, but also about 1/4 full. It's always been that way on my visits. I hope it sticks around. Dragster isn't even lit up at night. I used to roll my eyes at the rumors of it being removed, but I didn't get a good feeling. As much fun as it is to ride and watch, the park is simply doing just fine without it. I can say the same for Wicked Twister. I'm perfectly fine with the park focusing more on entertainment areas, dining, and nice places to get a drink. The swarms of families spending money seems to be working. I didn't see any overly obnoxious clientele. Stop trying so hard to be offended. The boardwalk construction area is huge. We rode the Ferris wheel without thinking about it, and got a nice view. There's a large area of block foundation within the fenced off area, and they're keeping the beach front path. We also saw a large square area of hefty footers, which looks like it could be for a flat. We saw no roller coaster footers, or signs of roller coaster construction. Keep the beach views open, as Cedar Point previously said they wanted to. We had a blast. I don't think I'd want to associate with anyone who thinks Cedar Point isn't good enough for them. It's a sure sign of entitlement.

I wouldn't be so sure...

Just got back to my hotel after my first trip to Holiday World. A full report will follow, but here are some bullet points: -Legend, Raven, and Voyage are all insanely good rides for different reasons, despite the roughness on the first and last of those. All have found a place in my Top lists (see signature). I regretted skipping rerides only 15 minutes down the road, but the extreme heat combined with the not-exactly-smooth wooden coasters had given me a recurring headache. -Water coasters are absolutely bonkers! This was my first time going on any of them, and holy shit. Airtime on a water ride! -This is going to be probably a me-only problem, but the water park needs more for solo-traveling adults who are mostly introverted. It's weird getting on a big group-tube with a bunch of randos, sorry not sorry. There's plenty of kids slides and big-tube slides, but there are only three solo slides and they are all super short. -SHADE! After my day at KK yesterday, this day was so much better on my body despite the hills because of the ample shade (excepting the long walk back to Thunderbird). -Anyone who says KK is an objectively better park than this is out of their mind.

Or they must’ve transferred to Kings Island. It’s baffling how two parks ran by the same company in the same state only a few hours apart can operate so night and day.

Reading the last few pages of this thread, plus also seeing the new El Toro Ryan video about Millennium Force I just have to say.. What. the HELL. is happening to Cedar Point? This park was the gold standard of ops and efficiency for years. Did somebody important leave the company and get replaced by 2 kids in a trench coat?

Sir, this is Magic Mountain. What are "flat rides?"

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/money/2022/06/25/dolly-parton-knoxville-unveils-heartsong-lodge-and-resort-progress-do Dollywood’s Dreamer In Chief was on park all day Friday and Saturday promoting new things coming to Dollywood. The article link above mentioned bigger waterpark and even an indoor waterpark. Just another step in making the Dollywood Resort a year-round destination!

That's a terrible way to live. You'll absolutely never convince me that someone who works in a ride operator capacity is exposed to anything but mild stress. I can only imagine what would happen if an actual emergency took place. That's who is in charge of your safety. Busy stress? Sure. Mild. Real fight or flight stress? Nah. My mind goes to the Intamin Drop Tower incident where instead of hitting the emergency stop button, the ride operators ran away. How would someone who can't deal with the stress of an obnoxious guest trying to leave the spinning horses react when guests are in physical danger? This is a real concern. This is the opposite of a "thanks for keeping us safe" situation.

They will never redo wildcat because it sits in a crucial part of HP's lineup. LR will also never be redone because it too sits in a crucial part of HP's lineup. If Wildcat does get replaced it will be for a Zeirer launched family or similar. Certainly not an RMC. That area of the park has been themed to an old timey boardwalk since it's inception - wildcat literally perfectly captures that energy. LR does as well. HP treats WC like it's a historic woodie - and if they keep doing that - WC will eventually be a historic woodie . Best one could hope for is replacement of Storm Runner with an RMC launcher. Now that HP has popped their top on very similar rides in the same park Im expecting a B&M wing and B&M dive up next.

Probably not. Not everyone has to be in love with the Whizzer... but it certainly is special to many local folks who grew up on it (and coaster nerds, of course). For many of us, it was our first "big" coaster. Anton coasters are rare. They feel and look very simple - and they kinda are. They are simple roller coasters. No fancy this or that; there is a little 'heartlining' in the design, but it's not overdone. One thing to note is the attention to detail. Where Arrow coasters were built with a bunch of tubes welded together, the Anton coasters had joints all over the place. Whizzer has hinged track at every support - similar to the hinges that have now shown up on RMC coasters. Mind Bender and Shockwave have ball-and-socket joints at nearly every support. There is a certain smoothness and movement to the rides that is unique. It's very subtle, but special. During the 80s, when bigger and badder-assed stuff was being built, I would always give Whizzer a courtesy ride. But over the years, I've been bitten by the Anton bug and Whizzer gets more and more important to me as a coaster fan. Every Schwarzkopf coaster seems to get better with age (except for one on the west coast which is now covered in silly hardware; but I best not go there!) Mind Bender has never left my #1 spot. We have all these great new steel coasters, but not one does what the Anton rides do. Designs these days feel rushed and even truncated. They don't have the same grace (or sprawl) that some Anton's do. Even the little portable models like Scorpion at BGT and Tig'ger at Indiana Beach have that special Anton magic to them. But like anything in life, you certainly don't have to love it. There are plenty of coaster nerds that could care less about the Anton coasters they've been on. I can understand that as I feel that way about B&M rides. I like em, but I'm not interested in spending much time on them. For anyone who missed it, this post accurately & eloquently defends the relevance of Schwarzkopf coasters in such a rational way that even a child who grew up in an era of B&M's could understand it.

Can you elaborate on this for me? I have seen you and others say this time and time again, but I simply do not understand. Sorry for the delayed response, but it looks like a few others hit on what they love so much about the Whizzer. I'll add my 2 cents. It's a nice long and laid-back ride; just enough thrill for anyone, but not too much. The seating is great; easily one of the most comfortable coaster trains ever. Ironic the Schwarzkopf looping trains are also super comfy - Anton knew what he was doing. Just enough to keep you very safe, yet still feel free and unencumbered. The design of the hills and curves sprawl all over the place. Nothing is rushed. The trees have grown thickly around the ride - especially that ground level/hugging curve. Probably not. Not everyone has to be in love with the Whizzer... but it certainly is special to many local folks who grew up on it (and coaster nerds, of course). For many of us, it was our first "big" coaster. Anton coasters are rare. They feel and look very simple - and they kinda are. They are simple roller coasters. No fancy this or that; there is a little 'heartlining' in the design, but it's not overdone. One thing to note is the attention to detail. Where Arrow coasters were built with a bunch of tubes welded together, the Anton coasters had joints all over the place. Whizzer has hinged track at every support - similar to the hinges that have now shown up on RMC coasters. Mind Bender and Shockwave have ball-and-socket joints at nearly every support. There is a certain smoothness and movement to the rides that is unique. It's very subtle, but special. During the 80s, when bigger and badder-assed stuff was being built, I would always give Whizzer a courtesy ride. But over the years, I've been bitten by the Anton bug and Whizzer gets more and more important to me as a coaster fan. Every Schwarzkopf coaster seems to get better with age (except for one on the west coast which is now covered in silly hardware; but I best not go there!) Mind Bender has never left my #1 spot. We have all these great new steel coasters, but not one does what the Anton rides do. Designs these days feel rushed and even truncated. They don't have the same grace (or sprawl) that some Anton's do. Even the little portable models like Scorpion at BGT and Tig'ger at Indiana Beach have that special Anton magic to them. But like anything in life, you certainly don't have to love it. There are plenty of coaster nerds that could care less about the Anton coasters they've been on. I can understand that as I feel that way about B&M rides. I like em, but I'm not interested in spending much time on them.

Well this is very bad news for someone who lives in the area like me. I'm hoping that the park can remain open but given how valuable the land is, it's hard for Cedar Fair to not sell it. In case CGA goes, then I'd like to say thank you Great America for making me introducing and getting me into roller coasters and for all the great memories I made there.