New B&M trains on Steel Dragon

Here's the artwork

What do you think about the new B&M trains on Steel Dragon? I'm personally very surprised. I never thought that B&M could make a trains for a Morgan coaster! :O

The front of the new trains is like most of the B&M hipers

As you can see, the the train has also the old Morgan wheels and assembly

Remember the old trains?

This is how it looks now. Pretty nice, isn't it?

This has B&M rolling stock now?

Interesting, I only know of Psyclone (and Colossus backwards) as a non-B&M with their trains.

This isn't a TOGO, it's a Morgan. This was basically the coaster that caused Morgan to go into bankruptcy, due to the $50mil price tag of all of the steel supports to make it up to the earthquake code.

I'm kind of surprised that B&M did this, but the results look completely awesome! Wonder if this is something B&M is looking into, making replacement trains for non B&M coasters. The original Morgan trains were lemons anyways and luckily with it SBNO for those 3 years, kept them on there a bit longer until they could get proper replacements.

^ Interesting that B&M did this.. It certainly does leave you wondering if they have plans to make replacement trains for other non B&M coasters as you mentioned. I would love to see B&M trains on Magnum XL-200 at CP or Phantom's Revenge at Kennywood. The resulting B&M train definitely looks great! I'm sure it rides way better than those old Morgan trains too.

It would be interesting to see if B&M makes replacement trains for TOGO stand up coasters. Amazing trains on a terrible ride.

These trains are definately more eye pleasing than those Morgan trains. It will be interesting to see what other coasters will get a B&M makeover.

I imagine that TPR will be hitting this on their Japan Trip, so I'm hoping that we get a review of the new trains once they do ride it. B&M is surprising me this year with backwards rows on some of their coasters and now new trains for a coaster they never worked on before.

B&M trains are the best trains on the market, and I think every hyper coaster should have them, even Intamin hypers. (Although Intamin does make better layouts, B&M makes superior trains)

I would love to see other Morgan coasters, such as the Cedar Fair Morgan trio, receive these trains. They have potential to be very solid rides, but the coffin trains do hinder the experience. Although I do like Phantom's Revenge's trains, just about anything would be an improvement over Magnum's trains. However, some of the annoying CP fanboys would probably kick and scream about ruining a classic to make it a good ride.

It is interesting to see that B&M did this. Now that they have the plans to make these new trains, hopefully they will be able to make them more easily for other Morgan hypers and we will be able to see them coming to other parks soon.

ANYTHING would be an improvement over Magnum's lap bars. They are just awful and especially painful on the bunny hops. I would much rather have these trains since the clam shells are really comfortable

I would love to see other Morgan coasters, such as the Cedar Fair Morgan trio, receive these trains. They have potential to be very solid rides, but the coffin trains do hinder the experience. Although I do like Phantom's Revenge's trains, just about anything would be an improvement over Magnum's trains.

Definitely agreed. I wouldn't go so far as to say that new trains could be marketed as a new experience, but they would certainly breathe a lot of new life into older rides that actually could be very good.

Well that was unexpected! Looks good, bet the ride experience is better now. B&M trains are much comfier and more open.

Keep in mind the track system, and therefore the chassis, of Steel Dragon 2000 differs significantly from other Morgan rides. I'm sure B&M could work something out if any parks with Morgan rides wanted to replace their trains, but it might be a bit more complicated to do so.

I wonder if B&M intends to offer trains for other coasters as a catalog item, or strictly by customer request only.

That is really cool! As a fan of the clam shell restraints I hope we see more coasters get the b&m treatment.

Yeah, unfortunately with the rest of Morgan's and Arrow's hypers, the track rails are on the inside of the track versus on the outside like Steel Dragon. B&M's wheel system is very bulky and look even bulkier on these new trains, so they'd have to reconfigure it to fit it on the inside of the track. These trains could also be a prototype for a much slimmer B&M train for smaller coasters that don't need the massive capacity B&M coasters normally have.

A couple of different pictures I managed to dig up. The Seatbelts are an odd touch.

Source: http://shusarides.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-1.html

I really love the fact that this have been done. Sure the old trains were really nice the high sides made it a comfortable place to be, but in a sense made the ride less thrilling, which is why SD2K felt like a very large family ride. So these trains should add a bit more thrill to the experience.

But there is a backside to this, which may disappoint some people.

The height limits went from above 130 cm with the old trains, to 140 - 185 cm, yes you read right, not only did they raise the lower limit which means that some have to wait a bit longer to ride it, but they put a very low upper limit (lower than Atlantis Adventure even), so sorry tall people. Wonder how strict they are though, Lotte World is very strict, there might be a chance that Nagashima Spaland may be as well

Source is the ride page at: http://www.nagashima-onsen.co.jp

I would love to see other Morgan coasters, such as the Cedar Fair Morgan trio, receive these trains. They have potential to be very solid rides, but the coffin trains do hinder the experience. Although I do like Phantom's Revenge's trains, just about anything would be an improvement over Magnum's trains. However, some of the annoying CP fanboys would probably kick and scream about ruining a classic to make it a good ride.

I think they would be a huge improvement, but I HIGHLY doubt Magnum is even a candidate for these new trains. I don't think B&M trains can handle the ejector airtime that Magnum delivers, where Steel Dragon (I'm assuming) looks like its pacing and forces are on par with a B&M hyper coaster.

Steel Dragon is a bit of an anomaly in the Morgan family, having its rails on the outside of the track.

The trains themselves seem very wide and with a lot of unused space. I wonder if they would have done two rows of three seats?

As for the seat belts - they don't look like they were installed at the factory. Both the seat belts and the lower leg restraints look like they were retrofitted.

Looks like they reused the bogeys from the Morgan trains too.

They look cool.

As for the seat belts - they don't look like they were installed at the factory. Both the seat belts and the lower leg restraints look like they were retrofitted.

Didn't notice the lower leg restraints. Ick!

Looking forward to seeing if these trains improve the ride. I rather like Steel Dragon and the other Morgan Hypers.

As for the seat belts - they don't look like they were installed at the factory. Both the seat belts and the lower leg restraints look like they were retrofitted.

Ugh. The lower leg restraints don't look comfortable to me.

This looks amazing! I can't wait to hear some reviews on how the ride will change!

Didn't see this coming, but definitely good news for both parties. B&M really are the best in the business when it comes to those hyper coaster trains.

As for the seat belts - they don't look like they were installed at the factory. Both the seat belts and the lower leg restraints look like they were retrofitted.

From what I hear about Japan, they are really strict on safety there so I'm wondering if Nagashima Spa Land was required by the government to put those in.