Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread

[SteveStL]

They better give Screamin' a whole bunch of Love for its 50th.  Paint Job, Retrack, Lights ... the works.

 

[prozach626]

On 10/21/2025 at 7:33 AM, Danrarbc said:

I mean if it's replaced with something on-par with AlpenFury I'm sure SFOT would take that trade.

I don't think our park needs to replace it's most state of the art roller coaster. A compact raptor would fit in the Boomerang and tidal wave location. Anything can fit in the area around Ninja.

[Sportsdude360]

15 minutes ago, prozach626 said:

I don't think our park needs to replace it's most state of the art roller coaster. A compact raptor would fit in the Boomerang and tidal wave location. Anything can fit in the area around Ninja.

Not to worry, I seriously doubt SFSTL would replace Mr Freeze. Over Texas, on the other hand, has long been rumored to be removing Freeze. Even so, it won't happen for at least 5 years. Right now, Tormenta and the new completely redone Spain section, which includes a new Spanish themed restaurant, is the parks main focus. That plus visual and theming enhancements. For example, the Southern Palace Theater is getting renovated with all new Theater style seating. 

These are the main things going on at SFOT right now.

[teacherkim]

12 hours ago, SteveStL said:

They better give Screamin' a whole bunch of Love for its 50th.  Paint Job, Retrack, Lights ... the works.

 

I 100% hope so and strongly voiced my opinion on that when I had the chance to talk to the higher ups; not that my voice necessarily means anything to them. However, we were told that there will be some kind of celebration, we kicked around some ideas we had, and it was promised to keep ACE in the loop for whatever comes to fruition. Now how elaborate that ends up being? No one knows at this point.

[SixFlagsOMA80]

On 10/27/2025 at 11:17 AM, teacherkim said:

I 100% hope so and strongly voiced my opinion on that when I had the chance to talk to the higher ups; not that my voice necessarily means anything to them. However, we were told that there will be some kind of celebration, we kicked around some ideas we had, and it was promised to keep ACE in the loop for whatever comes to fruition. Now how elaborate that ends up being? No one knows at this point.

At this point I would not believe anything. Joker Fun House - Open by Summary 2025. Nothing. Screaming Eagle 50th "Oh yeah, that will be done by May 2026" sadly I see nothing happening. That Bat Mobile coming back to the ride line in 2020, nothing. The park can't even fix the lighting on the "new sign" they built by the highway. The first thing ppl see passing by is a broken sign that no longer lights up on one side, they were better off leaving the old one there. If the park can't change light bulbs I don't have much hope... 

[thepoint4life23]

They survey is so odd to me, I know a few other parks got them last year. What i know is most the stuff is already 2-3 if not 4-6 years planned out. Is this just going to be the start of parks getting a bunch of clones again. Say three parks results come back and a launch coaster was the highest vote  so will  all 3 get a off the shelf pre designed model. 

[SteveStL]

On 10/29/2025 at 10:48 AM, thepoint4life23 said:

 What i know is most the stuff is already 2-3 if not 4-6 years planned out.

Are you sure about that?  Seems to me, especially here in STL, most Park improvements/additions seem like an afterthought.

[teacherkim]

On 10/29/2025 at 6:57 AM, SixFlagsOMA80 said:

At this point I would not believe anything. Joker Fun House - Open by Summary 2025. Nothing. Screaming Eagle 50th "Oh yeah, that will be done by May 2026" sadly I see nothing happening. That Bat Mobile coming back to the ride line in 2020, nothing. The park can't even fix the lighting on the "new sign" they built by the highway. The first thing ppl see passing by is a broken sign that no longer lights up on one side, they were better off leaving the old one there. If the park can't change light bulbs I don't have much hope... 

And I get all that, but to be fair I don't think it is so much we are flat out lying to you as much as plans and executing those plans are not always sympatico. While something like the sign is annoying to many of us, I guarantee you if you asked people in the park about it on any given day 90% of them wouldn't have even noticed but will be aware of improvements/problems inside the park. Not an excuse, the sign should be fixed, but perhaps an explanation on priorities. No rose colored glasses here though, I am well aware these things may or may not happen. As I said, just staying positive.

[teacherkim]

On 10/30/2025 at 12:48 PM, SteveStL said:

Are you sure about that?  Seems to me, especially here in STL, most Park improvements/additions seem like an afterthought.

Again things can be "planned" and then for whatever reason not come to fruition. So both things could be true; that there are 5 year plans AND that they won't all happen.

[Danrarbc]

On 11/6/2025 at 9:38 AM, teacherkim said:

Again things can be "planned" and then for whatever reason not come to fruition. So both things could be true; that there are 5 year plans AND that they won't all happen.

There's plan A, plan B and then "oh crap we can't buy anything".

[SixFlagsOMA80]

Earnings call today was terrible - another bad quarter. The company's goal now is to get smaller as soon as possible and only invest in parks that get visited the most and bring strong profit to the company. Looks like STL will be on the "crap we can't buy anything list" 

[Danrarbc]

Only investing in already humming along properties sounds like a recipe for a company to have zero growth. I don't have an MBA or anything but that seems like a dumb plan if you're trying to grow your numbers.

[AmyUD06]

1 hour ago, Danrarbc said:

Only investing in already humming along properties sounds like a recipe for a company to have zero growth. I don't have an MBA or anything but that seems like a dumb plan if you're trying to grow your numbers.

Having read through the transcript of the call, and reviewed the slides, it sounds like there's more than just "good" and "bad" parks in their eyes

1. The "core," high-performing parks that have been seeing investment and will continue to do so.
2. The "core," low-performing parks that they're going to try investing in, and if it doesn't make it into a high-performing park, the category will change.
3. The "non-core," low-performing parks that may be salvageable into profitable parks.
4. The "non-core", low-performing parks that are on the immediate chopping block if they can't get their act together.
5. The "non-core" parks that are already officially slated for closure (SFA, CGA).

Based on what Zimmerman and the other guy said, it sounds like there's a bit of fluidity and movement possible between types 2, 3, and 4.

[Sportsdude360]

2 hours ago, AmyUD06 said:

Having read through the transcript of the call, and reviewed the slides, it sounds like there's more than just "good" and "bad" parks in their eyes

1. The "core," high-performing parks that have been seeing investment and will continue to do so.
2. The "core," low-performing parks that they're going to try investing in, and if it doesn't make it into a high-performing park, the category will change.
3. The "non-core," low-performing parks that may be salvageable into profitable parks.
4. The "non-core", low-performing parks that are on the immediate chopping block if they can't get their act together.
5. The "non-core" parks that are already officially slated for closure (SFA, CGA).

Based on what Zimmerman and the other guy said, it sounds like there's a bit of fluidity and movement possible between types 2, 3, and 4.

And just where does Six Flags St. Louis fit in all that. My guess would be number 2.

[AmyUD06]

16 minutes ago, Sportsdude360 said:

And just where does Six Flags St. Louis fit in all that. My guess would be number 2.

Honestly, I see category 3 being the most likely, but 2 is possible as well.  SFStL didn't get a new attraction survey, right?

[Sportsdude360]

26 minutes ago, AmyUD06 said:

 SFStL didn't get a new attraction survey, right?

Apparently not.

[Danrarbc]

4 hours ago, AmyUD06 said:

Honestly, I see category 3 being the most likely, but 2 is possible as well.  SFStL didn't get a new attraction survey, right?

Unless we've been wrong or lied to all along it's been said STL is a profitable park. That should plant it in #2. 

Obviously if it actually doesn't print money it's in group 3.