historyfreak92 Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 I have A Question? Is SFOT able to purchase Batman The Escape from Astroworld?
Wes Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 I have A Question? Is SFOT able to purchase Batman The Escape from Astroworld? It's been rotting in a field for years though, probably nothing better than scrap metal at this point.
simaticable Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 ^^No park can. The track was so badly damaged during the demolition of Astroworld that it would cost more to just get the track in a good enough shape to begin even thinking about putting it somewhere.
historyfreak92 Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 What do you mean? It's not a good Standup Coaster anymore?
Wes Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 What do you mean? It's not a good Standup Coaster anymore? Here's a whole thread with photos. http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=957313#p957313
boardwalkbullet91507 Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 When Astroworls was demolished, care was not kept in mind. So many of the rides were damaged beyond repair. I heard that the Ultra Twister was also badly damaged. But as for batman, it is rusted very badly and weathered down.
boardwalkbullet91507 Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 Enough about Astroworld. Sky Screamer... does anybody know when we can expect pieces on site?
historyfreak92 Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 I'm not upset, or anything, but it would be nice if any park could renovate these rides, but ohh well life sicks! Buy 'N' Large!
simaticable Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 Enough about Astroworld. Sky Screamer... does anybody know when we can expect pieces on site? Not until March or April at the earliest I imagine. Edit: Looking at the SFDK thread, it wasn't until March 31 that construction really picked up with the final piece up in two weeks. I imagine SFOT to take three to four weeks for their Sky Screamer to fully rise.
SFOverTexasFan Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 Hey guys need help with this one. I'm out here at Six Flags today and I've noticed the coasters are moving a tad bit slower then usual. Trust me, I would know, I've been out here more then 50 times this season. So my question is do colder temps affect the speed of the rides?
johnychen Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 Found this on another site. It mostly has to do with the viscosity of the grease used to lubricate the wheel bearings. Grease is nothing more than oil held in suspension in a base material, such as clay. Modern greases have more sophisticated synthetic bases. It is formulated to give it's maximum performence with in a specific tempeture range. Low viscosity greases are for low temp, high for warmer temp. Since the coaster train will be operating for the most part in warmer to hot conditions the higher viscosity greases are used. At the lower temp range the grease thickens increasing drag, or friction in the bearings.Thus a slower ride. coasterbuzz.com/Forums/Topic/coasters-running-slow-in-the-cold#362644 So I guess they are running a bit slower. I am still surprised that the park is opened until this Sunday. I may go this Sunday to see the last day of operations for the season. I still have two extra 2012 one day tickets that I did not use. Got them for free during the Coaster Wars film shoot. I wonder if they would still work? I have a season pass so don't really need them.
SFOverTexasFan Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 Thanks for the info man. Yeah you should go Sunday! The crowds were extremely light today. Every coaster that was open, including Giant was a walk on! Loved it!
BrandonR Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 Went to the park earlier today (which was the last day of the 2012 season). Light crowds when I got there around noon but they started to pick up by the time I left (around 2). Finally got to experience the New Texas Giant's loading procedure too. I also took a video of the new loading procedure (see below). My take: it feels faster, but I'm still not totally convinced it actually is. The pouches seem to do the most in speeding things up as most people don't need to go to the cubbies to store small things. They still need to add separate lines for the first and last cars to give riders some choice, and I see this could very easily be incorporated with the new loading scheme. So is it faster? I'm not sure, but since the line moves at a slower, albeit more continuous pace, it feels faster. I do have another theory: since the train is continuously moving it almost makes everyone loading/unloading hustle a bit faster than when a train is just sitting in the station. That in itself could create faster loading. [youtu_be] [/youtu_be]
cfc Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 ^Hmm--interesting. I suppose keeping the train moving could speed things up. I assume they stop the train to accommodate disabled riders who have to transfer from wheelchairs or ECVs. The pouches are a good idea (Disney has been using these for years).
kidcoaster 2 Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 Have they started running 3 trains with the system? I see how it can help speed up the line but also see how it could cause a problem with ops missing checking a row (The kid on the other side of the platform also did in the video).
Wes Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 Yeah that's pretty weird...Don't really see how this system is any better than the standard load/unload.
SoCalCoasters Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 ^Well, this system has worked for rides like Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit and Space Fantasy, although those can move through a lot more people, and were designed with continuous loading in mind.
boardwalkbullet91507 Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 In my opinion the train is too long for this type of loading system. For example, Ultra Twister at Astroworld did this as it only had six seats. It was just boom boom done. Texas Giant seats 24, not 6. Why seat two at a time? Knock all 24 all at once!
cfc Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 ^Well, this system has worked for rides like Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit and Space Fantasy, although those can move through a lot more people, and were designed with continuous loading in mind. Exactly--I think they'd have to reconfigure the station to make this work properly. HRnR at least has a conveyor belt to help out here. We shall see.
BrandonR Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 (edited) Actually I got word that the park is already planning to add separate lines for the front/back so that removes my biggest concern about the whole thing... What I don't get is why they don't just dispatch the train after the last lapbar is checked instead of letting it creep to the end of the station and then letting it go. Or maybe they can? Edited January 7, 2013 by BrandonR
boardwalkbullet91507 Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 Actually I got word that the park is already planning to add separate lines for the front/back so that removes my biggest concern about the whole thing... Thats better. I don't mind that at all. PLUS pockets for your phone!
BrandonR Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 Actually I got word that the park is already planning to add separate lines for the front/back so that removes my biggest concern about the whole thing... Thats better. I don't mind that at all. PLUS pockets for your phone! Yeah, since the pockets are just mesh you could actually start a recording on your phone before zipping it up and get a free on-ride video of yourself.
SFOverTexasFan Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 I dont know about you guys but I love New Texas Giant. And I know we all know about Iron Rattler opening this Spring in San Antonio, and Outlaw Run at Silver Dollar City. But also a new rumor reports that the Magic Mountain park will get the Iron Horse treatment on Colossus in 2014, or 15. I'm sure these coasters will be amazing. And to think, it all started here in Texas with NTAG! It feels good knowing we were first! Because this Iron treatment is clearly the future of coasters, along with some others. So glad that Texas Giant will always be the first. Texas really is special.
chadster Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 What I don't get is why they don't just dispatch the train after the last lapbar is checked instead of letting it creep to the end of the station and then letting it go. Or maybe they can? They can, and do when they want to unless it has already cleared the last guide wheel in the station. I actually can see this working, but I'm sure they will screw it up somehow. Basically they will be able to run 3 trains in peak season. That's the goal. One train will always be on course, somewhere, one loading, and one coming off course. Once the train coming off course is pushed close it will creep up behind the train in front that should be finished loading the last row and within seconds they can begin off loading and loading. If a lapbar doesn't register properly, and I've witnessed this, the panel op can stop the train on the transfer track(obviously it's not going much further without the computer going nuts), fix, and then let it roll off. I say roll off because, well, that's what it basically does, the motors on the table don't seem to have any gusto whatsoever. I see the concept, I see with the addition this short off season of the front and last row lines, that it can work, they just have to let it work and not try to cheap it. I do, however, see lockers becoming required for large bags and items. And really, that's not such a bad thing.
SFOverTexasFan Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 I highly doubt it, but does anyone think TSS will be ready by opening day (March 2, 2013) or in April like NTAG was?
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