chmilo24 Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Dear MLB,Will you instate a friggin salary cap already? Other major league sports have done it and are getting on just fine, why can't you do the same? Yeah seriously. I hate how teams like the Yankees can buy any player they want to make them better and other teams have to focus on draft talent because they don't have the money.(fortunately the Giants do have the ability to draft amazing players *cough* Lincecum *cough*) And when they do buy players it bites them in their a$$ *cough* Zito *cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsterfan99 Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Yeah seriously. I hate how teams like the Yankees can buy any player they want to make them better and other teams have to focus on draft talent because they don't have the money.(fortunately the Giants do have the ability to draft amazing players *cough* Lincecum *cough*) And when they do buy players it bites them in their a$$ *cough* Zito *cough* Even then it is worthless to draft talent. Look at the Nationals. They can pay Steven Stratsburg for 3 years, around 45-50 million, then loose him to the Yankees if he is a stud. Then that means they paid to develop him for 3 years only to get 3 or 4 picks and an FU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Actually, I think this whole "Yankees buy everything" argument is outplayed. Haven't they proven they don't know sh** about spending money? Since their 3-peat in the late 90's, and the start of their budget-blowing rampage, what have they really accomplished? Â And as for the "smaller markets" not being able to compete, I give you this. Since that Yanks 3-peat (which, by the way, had a win against San Diego), the D-backs, Angels (yes, remember, they were a hopeless franchise for years), White Sox, Astros, Tigers, Rockies, Rays, Phillies, and Marlin have all either made the Series, or won it all. Â Again, since 2000, Arizona, Anaheim, Boston, Florida, Chicago, St. Louis, and Philly all have just as many titles as the big spending boys from the Bronx. Oh wait, Boston has twice as many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsterfan99 Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 ^ Out of those teams, only Florida and maybe STL would be considered small market teams. Arizona is now a small market team, but before was in the top 5 in spending in the league. Â What is sad is when the Yankees payroll is higher then the Marlins (2nd in the NL East,) Pirates, Nationals and Padres combined. Hell, their payroll is 52 million more then the 2nd place in spending Mets. And this is before they try to acquire someone before the trade deadline. Â The Marlins got the right idea here. Sign great young talent for cheap, release them/trade them when they are worth a bunch, put a decent team out there to get a new stadium with tax player dollars and collect revenue sharing money. It worked for the owner in Montreal before the bastard sold the team to MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 ^ Out of those teams, only Florida and maybe STL would be considered small market teams. Arizona is now a small market team, but before was in the top 5 in spending in the league. I'd say Arizona was always a "small market" team, as was Florida, in terms of the MLB landscape anyway. They may have been in the top 5 in terms of spending, but I believe the Marlin were too in their first championship season. People were crying that they "bought" their win that year as well. Â Truth is, the teams that are able to spend the big bucks (whether consistently, or a "one and done" type of season spending) have proven to be able to buy a more balanced and cohesive team than the Yanks. That's the real difference. Â And just out of curiosity, I'm wondering how everyone else defines what a "small" market and a "big" market team is. Â I've got it scored like this: Â "Big" market perennial contenders (with a legit chance at the start of almost every season): Yanks, Red Sox, Mets, Braves, Dodgers, Angels, St. Louis, Cubs. The Phils *may* have crept into this group. Hard to say yet though. Â The term "small market" can be broken down into two levels: Â A. This level consists of teams that *could* legitimately make a run. It fluctuates from year to year though: Arizona, San Fran, Florida, Chi Sox, Twins, Jays, Mariners, Padres, Rockies, A's, Indians, and Astros. The Tigers, and Rays may have finally crept into this group as well. Â B. This group is hopeless, unless all the pieces of the puzzle finally fit and lightning is caught in a bottle (i.e. Tampa last season): Rangers, Reds, Royals, Nationals, Orioles, Pirates, Brewers, Â Â That list is off the top of my head, and is obviously generally speaking, of course. Like I said, things change from season to season, and there's always a dark horse that seems to step up for awhile. But for the most part, that's the way I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstevet07 Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 "Big" market perennial contenders (with a legit chance at the start of almost every season): Yanks, Red Sox, Mets, Braves, Dodgers, Angels, St. Louis, Cubs. The Phils *may* have crept into this group. Hard to say yet though. Â I would say the the Phils are there for now up until 2011 or so. That is when Howard and some other big names will be FA's. I'm not really looking forward to what could happen after that. Â I do think the Phils are tapped out though. If they somehow land Halladay and extend him, they may make a move to be able to fit him into their own set salary cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkTrips Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 "Small market" is a weird term to me - Miami and Phoenix are both among the top 10 or so metropolitan areas in population. Why don't we just call them what they are - cheap because their fans are apathetic teams?  Marlin You just wont give it up will you? lol  They may have been in the top 5 in terms of spending, but I believe the Marlin were too in their first championship season. People were crying that they "bought" their win that year as well. They were indeed. The only year they've ever paid a luxury tax. The 2nd championship was far sweeter, especially since they beat the yankees, and their payroll was in the bottom 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleshot Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 If you look at how the Yankees won all their championships in the 90's, you might notice that most of there talent was home grown (Posada, Pettite, Jeter, Orlando Hernandez, Mariano Rivera and Bernie Williams) These are the players that made this team great. They need to look at what the Red Sox are currently doing with their program. They have a terrific scouting department, that drafts excellent talent. While not only drafting well, they have also made educated trade decisions. For the most part, they have kept there minor league talent together. They have realized that it makes more sense to give time for their young players to develop, rather then trade them for high priced aging players. Â Â Go Red Sox!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkTrips Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 ^ Yeah, and how have they done in the past decade since they really became exorbitant spenders? When will they learn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speeddeamon128 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 About time Joba got a win at home. Let's go YANKEES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsterfan99 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 So I keep hearing Roy Halliday and Scott Rolen to Chicago White Sox for Gordon Beckman, a starting OF and more pitching prospects.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjaco Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 ^ Doubt it. Ken Williams claims Beckham is untouchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintballer Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 I'm gaining faith in my Yankees. But MAN whats with the Rangers right now??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsterfan99 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 ^ The Rangers are no longer a team that just has to hope to out slug the other team. Now their pitching is at least ok. And their deference is good, unlike last year when it was just bad. Â It is nice to see that 4 of the 5 divisions have 3 teams within 5 games. Should be a fun August and September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintballer Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Well Rangers, I'm proud of you. Taking on the scum that is the Red Sox, decent work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkTrips Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Stat of the night on sportscenter last night was showing what the Yankees' record would be if they didn't have to play the Red Sox. Too bad they still have a couple more series' with them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelizeIt Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Well the Yankees may be high up in the MLB power rankings (below the Red Sox of course), but they keep losing to the teams they might actually meet in the Playoffs. Â The Red Sox have swept them not once, not twice, but three times....IN A ROW! Also the Angels swept them just before the All-Star break. Â It will be interesting to see if Roy Halladay gets traded, I'm sure the Yankees are considering an offer for him. (Especially since the Mets have turned down Torontos trade deal for him) Â Go Red Sox! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemical_echo Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Yankees already stole one of our pitchers, they don't need to do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movieguy Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 You know, when I look at the Pirates, and see good players like Adam LaRoche, I always think "He'll make a good Yankee, or Dodger, or Red Sox star." Â And it's happened again now. LaRoche has been traded to Boston for more rookies. If any of those guys are any good, they'll be traded for even more rookies, and any hopes at all of building a consistent, winning team are dashed. Â It's a vicious cycle that you Yankee fans, Red Sox fans, and Dodger fans out there will never understand. You wanna know why some of us want a Salary Cap in baseball, this is why. Â You can go on talking about the Rays and the Marlins and the Phillies all you want, but the fact of the matter is that none of those teams are the Pirates, the poorest franchise in the majors. Â You guys go on talking about all these cinderella teams going to the world series, but I still see this as a system of wealthy teams monopolizing all the talent, while smaller markets are forced to give up any talent they have to pay the bills. Â The Pirates just have the bad luck of not getting that one fluke season that all the other small market teams have gotten. Sometimes I just feel like screaming. "What about the Pirates, huh? When are THEY gonna get their shot?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 ^ At least they've still got the best "new era" park in the majors. Â For the record, I'm a Mets and Sox fan.....and I still want a cap too. In fact, I bet most people really aren't opposed to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movieguy Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Yeah, PNC park is really nice...I just wish it could actually host a winning team one of these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I have to say, I was beyond pleased with my visit to PNC. It was a very, very nice park. I was also carded 5 times, which made me feel relatively not old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstevet07 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 My uncle was one of the guys that helped design that park. He can get tickets to a game anytime he wants, and he's gone to opening day and that's it. That is how bad the Pirates are. It is a beautiful park though. Â I do agree that being a small market affects them, but scouting talent has to play a role in how bad they have been. Obviously there are numerous small market teams that have managed to have some winning seasons before having to get rid of all their young talent. Plus being the 3rd team in a city (Steelers, Penguins) will always affect them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Mark Buehrle just pitched a perfect game against the Rays. Both impressed and a little angry at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric_Smith Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Perfect game for Mark Buehrle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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