Jive Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I believe that most of the GCI's are running somewhere near $6 mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster05 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Here's my two cents... Being a life long resident on Kansas City I have tried to get to St. Louis every year as well as a trip or two to Branson yearly. SFSTL is a nice park with average coasters and a big need for quality flats. This holds true for most of the Missouri parks other than SDC. It is very hard for me to consider another woodie going into SFSTL knowing that they are building one at WOF within a year or two. I would hope they would look at something very unusual but Swoosh has already said the layout is already in another park. In a post above the amount of 2 million was used and I kinda laughed, any decent woodie is going to run 10 to 15 million. If they really wanted to attract people to the park a dive coaster would fit in great! Since both Bush parks have them on the east coast it would be awesome to slap one right in the midwest. I promise you they would really pack them in with a dive coaster. Just my opinion..... Â Wow then how did voyage get made for 6 million. How about Kentucky Rumbler, cornball express, avalanche. etc. Woodens can be built for a lot less especially if they go around the 100 foot mark. Â Â Every park needs a Hyper, seriously? Knoebels, IB, and 100 other small parks would have to say you are crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC Ridesalot Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Please think of the increase in price for wood and gas. What was the cost for voyage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jive Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Renegade was $6.5 mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airtime&Gravity Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Please think of the increase in price for wood and gas. What was the cost for voyage? Â Voyage was 6.5 million according to RCDB, and there are few wooden coasters that have a high price tag. Most seem to cost the same as a family coaster, so they are a great value for what you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jive Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Rumor stats that Voyage went over budget and even if it did I don't see it going $3.5 mill over. Â It's reasonable to assume that a park can score a world class wood coaster for under $10 mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP_RULES Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 How much does an Intamin woody run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterdude5 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 ^ I heard El Toro cost about $12 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixflagsguy5 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Wooden coasters cost much less than steel coasters for some reason. I haven't really understood why things are this way, because I would think that wood requires much more work to put together vs a steel coaster that can have its pieces lifted into place and then bolted. The only catch to buying a wooden coaster is that they cost more to maintain (I think so at least). Â So price-wise, I could see why a park would want to go with wood rather than steel. Honestly I could care less what Six Flags St. Louis gets next year as long as its a coaster. I'd prefer that the park gets something that's not a clone, but if that's what happens then it's still a credit. Â I saw pictures of the dismantled kiddie coaster behind Boss. Is there news on whether or not that ride is being moved to a different location or if the ride is being taken out of the park for good? Also, when they had the kiddie coaster operating, was there a maximum height restriction? I could never find where the ride was, so I never got a chance to score a credit on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceace12 Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 Considering it wasn't even used this year, I bet it is good as gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asr Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 How much does an Intamin woody run? Â Balder was about ten million. I heard that El Toro was 21 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eltorobaby Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 How much does an Intamin woody run? Â Balder was about ten million. I heard that El Toro was 21 million. Â El toro was 12 million, you got the numbers in the wrong order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixflagsguy5 Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 RCDB needs to change the status of the kiddie coaster then. They have it as operating and I was walking all over the place trying to find this little kiddie coaster that I was probably too tall to ride anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraxleRIDAH Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 How much does an Intamin woody run? Â Balder was about ten million. I heard that El Toro was 21 million. Â $21 million for El Toro? The same amount for Tatsu and Maverick? No. Â Not unless it was built all from endangered Eucalyptus trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jive Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 If someone builds a coaster using Eucalyptus trees then I want cars that are lined with Koala hides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asr Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 How much does an Intamin woody run? Â Balder was about ten million. I heard that El Toro was 21 million. Â $21 million for El Toro? The same amount for Tatsu and Maverick? No. Â Not unless it was built all from endangered Eucalyptus trees. Â I'm just saying what I heard. Supposedly the cost of the three major coasters installed at Six Flags parks in 2006 came to a total of 57 million. The prices for the other two (Goliath at SFOG and Goliath at La Ronde) are known. Â I do think that 21 million seems like a steep price for a woodie, but 12 million seems a little low for a coaster of El Toro's size if Balder coat 10 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbilly Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 It was definitely 12, if you also look at it Balder has a relatively small footprint, it goes inside itself and doesn't really branch out at all away from the structure. In a sense El Toro doesn't too much because the first half of the ride are hills that are parallel to each other, then a cross over into another section that stays there. But, anyhow, GCI coasters as everybody said costs 6-8 million usually, and with GCI, they are very reliable so you can NEVER go wrong with one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraxleRIDAH Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 I was reading most of what has been posted in this thread and I like how everyone immediate jumps on the "it's going to be a roller coaster" bandwagon. While that would be nice for this park, did anybody ever stop to consider that it could possibly be a Wiggles World or Thomas Town? Or both? Â I know they just redid their Bugs Bunny National Park area, but Great Adventure and Marine World have both added new kids areas right after introducing a new kids area a year or two before. So it's not out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoosh Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 ^yeah hi, its a coaster for realz and stuff. GCII to be exact. Announcement should be Thursday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shavethewhales Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 ^Well then, here's hoping for another Troy. That's a clone I could hope for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraxleRIDAH Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Swoosh you seem incredibly confident. Â I'll be sure to quote you on that above on Thursday in the event of a "change in plans." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoosh Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LcHg5265 Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 B&M Hyper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraxleRIDAH Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 ^ I quote Six Flags CEO Mark Shapiro -- Â "You won't be seeing anymore Goliaths." (in reference to roller coasters the size of Over Georgia's new 2006 ride) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoosh Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 ^Mind you the woodie will be a darn near copy of a woodie that is already at another park (that is not in the SFI chain) or so I have been told Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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