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Anybody thinking we will get a coaster in 2018 instead of 2017? We don't have much news and it's already June. What was it like at this time in 2011 before leviathan was being announced?

Geez, you guys are like the weather.

 

"Well, it started raining now, so we better change those percentages from 0-100% quickly!"

 

You guys wait on the arrival of Ziz like it is some prophecy.

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Anybody thinking we will get a coaster in 2018 instead of 2017? We don't have much news and it's already June. What was it like at this time in 2011 before leviathan was being announced?

Geez, you guys are like the weather.

 

"Well, it started raining now, so we better change those percentages from 0-100% quickly!"

 

No, it's just I thought that there would be more updates.

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Can anyone on here tell me if the prices listed on Canada's Wonderland's website for items such as fastlane are in USD or CAD? It doesn't say in any obviously location I can find including doing a mock purchase. Just trying to do some research for an upcoming trip. Thanks!

CAD. We bought our platinum passes there rather than at Cedar point to save the exchange rate.

 

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I'm heading to Cedar Point prior to Canada's Wonderland. Will I save money if I bought the pass online for CW, and would I be able to process said pass at Cedar Point or another Cedar Fair park?

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^Roughly same price. 4$ more expensive at Canada's wonderland.

 

Based off curency: You will save $46 if you buy Canada's wonderland platinum pass with american currency.

 

You must process at the park were you order the platinum pass, then you will be able to use it for any cedar fair park.

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Anybody thinking we will get a coaster in 2018 instead of 2017? We don't have much news and it's already June. What was it like at this time in 2011 before leviathan was being announced?

I'm pretty sure they actually got ahold of the logo a couple weeks before it was actually released, but I don't remember actually knowing what the coaster was before (maybe I wasn't looking hard enough) because the countdown before they released it I first learned what the layout and type of ride it was.

 

Pretty excited for early august this year, I think they have something in store for CW.

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You know guys....if you take a closer look around the WWC area you might some find some interesting things (yes it does have to do with the red markers). Take a walk through the Timber Wolf Falls queue line and look how the markers are placed.

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For anyone interested in the structural design of roller coasters, I thought I would share my 12-month capstone design project that I recently completed with 3 of my classmates at the University of Waterloo. Our project involved the design of a new flying-wing roller coaster (a combination of a flying roller coaster and a wing roller coaster) to replace SkyRider at Canada’s Wonderland. We initially developed 16 new amusement ride concepts, but we ultimately found the flying-wing roller coaster to be the optimal ride for implementation through an extensive decision-making methodology. We then completed a detailed structural analysis and design of the roller coaster which is briefly summarized on our poster (attached below). We actually created a 100-page technical report to explain our entire project in detail, but I think that the poster provides a good general overview of our work. I love sharing our project with people as I am very passionate about roller coaster design and I’d be happy to discuss it further and answer any questions. Our team actually just returned from the CSCE (Canadian Society for Civil Engineering) National Conference where we had the opportunity to present our project nationally and we were honoured to receive 3rd place in the capstone competition against universities from across Canada.

 

(Although we were in contact with Canada’s Wonderland and Bolliger & Mabillard throughout our project, I want to emphasize that the project is completely fictitious and is not related to any real project at CW or B&M)

 

Thanks for Reading!!

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Flying-Wing Roller Coaster Poster

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Flying-Wing Roller Coaster Layout

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Flying-Wing Roller Coaster Display at the University of Waterloo Capstone Symposium

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3D-Printed Model of the Flying-Wing Roller Coaster

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Oculus Rift Demonstration of the Flying-Wing Roller Coaster

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^Looks great. What course was that for?

In our final year of studies, we're required to complete a year-long design project like this that addresses a real-world engineering problem. It's not a component of a regular course, but the project carries a weight equivalent to 2 regular engineering courses. We have to submit numerous reports and give presentations throughout the duration of the project.

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Did B&M show or tell you how the main spine or box section was manufactured? Im wondering if they used a speciality brake or cnc brake to put the creases in.

I haven't discussed fabrication with B&M and I'm honestly not very familiar with the processes that are used to manufacture the track. All I can tell you is that B&M's are manufactured by Clermont Steel Fabricators in Ohio and they have 1 Cincinnati brake and 1 Wysong CNC brake.

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That was amazing, how much work and time did you put into that? 100 pages, that's like a book.

 

Coaster name needs work though.

I personally put about 450 hours into the project, but our team of 4 students put in around 1,600 hours total over 12 months. It was quite an accomplishment on top of all our regular course work.

 

We actually had the coaster named Ziz for most of the project as a bit of an inside joke but we decided to change it to something a little more aggressive and cool for public presentations. We picked the name "Valveron" before Valravn was announced for Cedar Point and unfortunately they ended up sounding very similar.

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@jtstonge.

 

Just out of curiosity, did any of you from the engineering project also take part in the ontario coaster design competition a few years back? I believe UW and Ryerson (sorry forget which school you mentioned in the first post) took part.

One of my partners and myself took part in the Ryerson Invitational Thrill Design Competition that was hosted by Ryerson University in 2014. There were a number of components to the competition, including a roller coaster design challenge that was won by our team at the University of Waterloo. The overall competition was won by Drexel University in the United States. I'm not sure if this is the same competition that you are referring to, but there was an article written about it on Coaster101.

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Did B&M show or tell you how the main spine or box section was manufactured? Im wondering if they used a speciality brake or cnc brake to put the creases in.

I haven't discussed fabrication with B&M and I'm honestly not very familiar with the processes that are used to manufacture the track. All I can tell you is that B&M's are manufactured by Clermont Steel Fabricators in Ohio and they have 1 Cincinnati brake and 1 Wysong CNC brake.

B&M has keep all their track manufacturing processes a secret. It would shock me if they gave away that process or minor details of it to ANYONE.

 

My guess is they've might have outlined what machines they use and maybe a very abridged summary of the manufacturing but surely not any details, correct? If they told you more then that must've been omething else and quite an experience.

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@jtstonge.

 

Just out of curiosity, did any of you from the engineering project also take part in the ontario coaster design competition a few years back? I believe UW and Ryerson (sorry forget which school you mentioned in the first post) took part.

One of my partners and myself took part in the Ryerson Invitational Thrill Design Competition that was hosted by Ryerson University in 2014. There were a number of components to the competition, including a roller coaster design challenge that was won by our team at the University of Waterloo. The overall competition was won by Drexel University in the United States. I'm not sure if this is the same competition that you are referring to, but there was an article written about it on Coaster101.

Just googled it... Yup, that's the same one.

 

The invert you guys made there has a great layout too..., Would be great to see something like that replace Skyrider

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I wish cedar fair would bring back intamin, I think an intamin coaster would be the best fit for canadas wonderland. Better than a new b&m. Does cedar fair only install b&m coasters right now?

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Does cedar fair only install b&m coasters right now?

 

We have no idea, and this Cedar Fair - Intamin rumor may or may not have any actual basis in reality but they've worked with other companies very recently like Mack for Coast Rider and GCI for the Ghostrider revamp and for Gold Striker.

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I wish cedar fair would bring back intamin, I think an intamin coaster would be the best fit for canadas wonderland. Better than a new b&m. Does cedar fair only install b&m coasters right now?

Same

While we have 2 b&ms, we don't really have any of the other b&m types.

 

But I would be MUCH happier if we got pretty much any intamin over a B&M. Save for a REALLY good flyer , I'll take an intamin accelerator, intamin blitz, even an intamin-mega lite over any B&M. Although I'm not sure CW could handle a ride like that.

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^What do you mean not handle. Intmain blitz or accelerator would be the best fit. A megalite is not a good fit for cw. Even though in my opinion b&m is better than intamin, intamin is the second best coaster manufacturer that delivers intense rides. B&m is good for a mix of everything but does not always deliver as intense rides as most intamin onces. Just look at maverick, probably more intense than most coasters and look at it's size.

 

Except that intamin does not always make reliable rides. Such as most accelerator coasters break down all the time.

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