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Maybe it is too soon to post but quite a few speculate 2020 will be the next big addition to the park, and seeing the success with the large investment made on Time Traveler, do you think SDC will get another major coaster or a themed area? What and why? If not 2020 ...when?

 

Personal preference I am still hoping for is something new from B&M, GCI, or even another Mack of some variety. It really makes me wonder on the latter as it seems like Brad and crew at SDC have developed a good working relationship with the guys at Mack Rides which could build on the success of Time Traveler. Would it be too farfetched to see a park invest in two major attractions (coasters) from the same company within a decades time?

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Dollywood is building that new family suspended coaster. I hope that opens the door to working with Vekoma more. Vekoma has a large portfolio of products available. I can picture a massive hyper screaming through the Ozarks

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Would it be too farfetched to see a park invest in two major attractions from the same company within a decades time?

Um...River Blast (2010) and Time Traveler (2018). I'd say the company is open to the idea of buying two major rides from Mack within a decade of each other.

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Would it be too farfetched to see a park invest in two major attractions from the same company within a decades time?

Um...River Blast (2010) and Time Traveler (2018). I'd say the company is open to the idea of buying two major rides from Mack within a decade of each other.

 

SDC also built Powder Keg in 2005 and the Barn Swing in 2007 both from S&S.

 

And if we’re talking about any park-Dollywood added Mystery Mine in 2007 and Firechaser Express in 2014 both from Gerstlauer. Cedar Point also has many examples- Millenium Force (2000), Wicked Twister (2002), Top Thrill Dragster (2003), Maverick (2007), and Shoot the Rapids (2010) all from Intamin and then Gatekeeper (2013), Rougarou (2015), and Valravn (2016) from B&M.

 

So there are many examples of parks buying multiple rides from the same company in just a few years. But, I would still prefer SDC go with another B&M before getting another Mack coaster.

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We have done this conversation before.

 

The pattern was large Capex purchases in pairs from a single manufacturer. To play this game, you have to include the now closed Celebration City.

 

Two Arrows, Thunderation at SDC, Tenn Tornado at DW

Two S&S Giant Swings at each

Two GCI woodies, Thunderhead at DW, Ozark Wildcat (RIP) at CC

There was to be Gerstlauer Euro fighter at SDC. The recession and reevaluation of the euro put that off, the Second gerstlauer came in the form of Firechaser Express

There was a large gap between Wildfire and Wild Eagle but there is a pair of B&Ms now.

Two Mack splash battles.

Two RMCS

 

You even saw Manby at Seas buy a bulk order of Premiere Sky Rockets:)

 

There is a clone of Fire in the Hole at DW and once a Flooded Mine as well.

A pair of Waterboggins as well.

 

Now, SDC and Dollywood have recieved unique to them rides.

 

Buzzsaw Falls at SDC was deemed a dog and replaced with S&S modified replacement Power keg.

 

Who can forget the topple tower fiasco at DW. Some of the new additions have come as replacements of fairly new attractions. I mentioned Power Keg but Firechaser knocked down a newish ropes course.

 

I have never really bought into the Dollywood is the pet park belief. If Celebration City had made it, Dolly wouldn't have much of an edge on overall number of attractions when you consider it from a combined view of SDC and CC. CC closing gave Dolly the edge. I m of the firm belief that Herschend has let Whitewater fall way behind but until Branson gets some serious comp on that front, they'll milk that cash cow feeding it the minimal amount of hay. Now, I'm waiting of the SDC resort but there a few more issues that seem to hinder that, infrastructure and the two existing parks being separated being the biggest.

 

I think that within the past 5 years the realization that SDC and Dollywood are becoming more of destination parks and not just regional park and that the days of copycat rides or a pair of coasters by the same maker at the same time may be over and going forward, more differentiation. I would love to see a Star Flyer at SDC for the views it would offer up. Niether park has a true steel hyper either. I think the next u announced coaster at one of the parks will be a Mack or Vekoma hyper or maybe one park gets Mack and the other a Vekoma.

 

I think Dollywood's removed Splash Battle appears in Valdosta at Wild Adventures soon.

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We travel to SDC once a year, what a gem that park is. Obviously well run, and well managed.

 

I'm wondering why they've never built an on site resort (or nearby resort)? Similar to the Dream resort at Dollywood. No doubt they've probably done the ROI and it doesn't make sense. Or maybe its land. I think a resort is something that makes SDC a destination park. You could argue it already is one.

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I'll be headed to SDC for the first time this fall, going to Thanksgiving in Springfield. Our options are the Friday, Saturday, or Sunday after Turkey Day. I assume all of these will be terribly crowded, but which of the three would be the least terrible? Also, would the basic Trailblazer 8-ride pass be worth it? Thanks!

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We travel to SDC once a year, what a gem that park is. Obviously well run, and well managed.

 

I'm wondering why they've never built an on site resort (or nearby resort)? Similar to the Dream resort at Dollywood. No doubt they've probably done the ROI and it doesn't make sense. Or maybe its land. I think a resort is something that makes SDC a destination park. You could argue it already is one.

 

They actually have a rv park and log cabins nearby. The topography of the area is challenging plus the road system is nottlenecked. There can be hours long delays on 76 to the park especially busy Saturdays.

 

The old Celebration City Site is still owned by them. They could build a resort and all new water park right there if they so chose to. Whitewater is leased land from the city of Branson.

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We travel to SDC once a year, what a gem that park is. Obviously well run, and well managed.

 

I'm wondering why they've never built an on site resort (or nearby resort)? Similar to the Dream resort at Dollywood. No doubt they've probably done the ROI and it doesn't make sense. Or maybe its land. I think a resort is something that makes SDC a destination park. You could argue it already is one.

 

I think the only thing keeping them from getting their own resort is infrastructure. They could build one today out at the old Celebration City property... but that wouldn't be close to any of their existing properties so they would have to run shuttles all over town. Out at SDC you have difficult topography, limited roads, and probably undersized sewer and water lines. The road is already a huge problem and has massive backups on many busy weekends. I'm not sure what they could do to fix that, but it's not going to happen soon.

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The road is still a bottleneck, TBS, but it is now 4 lanes all the way from Indian Point Rd. to 465, amd that has helped a lot. Widening 76 further to say having 2 left turn lanes onto Indian Point would be very expensive, since they'd have to deal with that bluff to the north. They can't widen to the south because of the cemetery. I mean, it's possible to move a cemetery, but "SDC dug up Grandma" isn't exactly the PR they want.

 

I always wondered why they didn't purchase some land farther south on Indian Point. There must have been a good reason. I imagine the original aim when they and Shepherd of the Hills were buying up as much as they could in the 60s was to get some of that. The lakeshore really would have been ideal for resort hotels, but since it's all built up, they'd have to fork over some serious cash to buy an existing resort now.

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I just returned from my first trip to SDC and I have to say that I absolutely loved the park!! The ride ops were great, the food was great, the scenery, the rides, the staff, everything I experienced was top notch. I've read some of the comments made recently about flooded mine and fire in the hole. Yes, they need some TLC! but as a first time rider I really enjoyed them alot. I was there for a day and a half and we didn't even see one show but we never waited in line for more than 30 min and that was on the river rapids ride. It was very hot! I appreciated the water misters around the park and the heavily wooded terrain. Very few times did we have to walk in direct sunlight. I came from Minnesota just to ride Time Traveler and it did not disappoint. The station was air conditioned, the train cars were beautiful and very comfortable to sit on and the ride itself was so unique. It was down once while we were there but it's a new ride, all new rides have bugs that need to be worked out. My biggest surprise was Outlaw Run. I wondered why the leg restraints but after riding it I now understand! So much force and speed and super smooth. The rest of the coaster line up was also pretty great. Wildfire has such an amazing view from the top! Powder Keg has a great launch and even Thunderation was really a fun mine train coaster. I thought the park had a pretty descent line up of flat ride although they could use one or two more.

Branson should be thanking their lucky stars for SDC!! The town itself was O.K. if you like sitting in traffic and looking at all the attractions. I was really surprised to see several old closed down attractions and hotels.

I came back to Minnesota and have been raving about SDC and telling everyone that they should go! I'm telling you local folks that you have a gem of a park. Yes, it needs some TLC but its a winner. My home park is a Cedar Fair park, Valleyfair! It's a nice park but pales in comparison to the charm that SDC has.

 

 

The strip has actually got better in the past couple of years. The lighting package around Time Traveler at night is very nice. Can't wait till later in the year to catch it at night again. The bluegrass version of Clocks by Coldplay is my favorite played while in queue. Thunderation at night is like Expedition Everest, another experience. Well, all the coasters are really.

 

Actually enjoyed quite a few songs in the TT queue. It'd be great if a loop showed up somewhere on-line

 

 

I've felt for a long time that parks that use their own 'in-house' music for theming would probably do enough business selling the soundtrack on a CD to be worth the effort. Obviously if it's licensed that's a different story, but I'm sure you get what I mean. My kids would have loved to hear some of the tracks from Story Land in New Hampshire, for example. Disney has put out a couple story books that include a single track CD of the ride music from Haunted Mansion and Pirates of the Caribbean, I would like to see more!

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They already rebuilt a small section of the road and moved an entire hill to do so. Earthwork isn't the challenge is used to be, though it is still somewhat expensive. They could easily widen the road without harming the cemetery. The problem is that SDC is the only real draw in that area, and I'm not sure MoDOT wants to be seen as playing favorites by widening their driveway for them. I'd rather they focus on the economic development aspect of it though, as moving people quickly between SDC and Branson means more $$$ spent on both ends.

 

As for the music, I'm sure it was tough to get the licenses just to play those tunes in the park. It would take way more effort than it's worth to release a CD.

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As for the music, I'm sure it was tough to get the licenses just to play those tunes in the park. It would take way more effort than it's worth to release a CD.

 

I did specify the licensing issue. I mean things more like Fire in The Hole's soundtrack, for example. Stuff that SDC would own outright. Ah well, dreams and Youtube it is.

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So, what are the songs. Maybe I've missed a couple and have forgottena couple

 

Clocks by Coldplay

Time after Time by Cyndi Lauper

Free Falling by Tom Petty

A Skynard song, Freebird?

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Big fan of SDC, as I wrote before my family tries to make the drive at least once a year to this great park. Is it sacrilege to suggest a Flooded Mine replacement? Neat ride with a ton of history but terribly outdated. Plus the capacity is sub par.

 

Seems like the one thing missing from the park (and Dolly too) is a fantastic dark ride. I don't count Fire in the Hole as a dark ride, its a coaster. When you look at 'Next Level' type rides like Outlaw and Time Traveler that are now being introduced to the park, Flooded Mine really doesn't hold up.

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Big fan of SDC, as I wrote before my family tries to make the drive at least once a year to this great park. Is it sacrilege to suggest a Flooded Mine replacement? Neat ride with a ton of history but terribly outdated. Plus the capacity is sub par.

 

Seems like the one thing missing from the park (and Dolly too) is a fantastic dark ride. I don't count Fire in the Hole as a dark ride, its a coaster. When you look at 'Next Level' type rides like Outlaw and Time Traveler that are now being introduced to the park, Flooded Mine really doesn't hold up.

 

Idk... Part of me is like "Meh, if they get rid of Flooded Mine... Oh well." and the other half of me is like "There is no way they are ever going to get rid of that ride. It's such a family friendly classic."

 

It's one of the few rides in the park that nearly every member of every family can enjoy together. SDC is so big on families, and "creating family memories for generations to come" that I find it hard to believe they would remove such a family friendly ride to replace it with something that may not be as easily accessible for as many people as Flooded Mine is. Then again the ride is SUPER old, and I'm sure has it's own problems that we aren't aware...

 

So... Idk how to feel about the idea of the removal of Flooded Mine... I'm super on the fence about it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Plus the capacity is sub par.

What are you smoking? They have 25 at a time on each boat-train and can run at least 3 boat-trains. There may be more in there too, not sure how many. They also have a grouper permanently just to make sure it fills up. I mean, short of an Omnimover there aren't many dark rides with better capacity than that.

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Flooded Mine has had a much harder time in the past few years. Lots of stuff simply has simply needed replacement for too long, and SDC can't seem to make up their minds about how much they want to spend on it or what they want to do with the ride as a whole. It was obvious years ago that they needed to increase it's budget to keep it running like it should but they chose not to.

 

I absolutely love the ride. It has always been something the entire family can really do together, from my grandmother to my little nieces and nephews. Besides the train, there's not many other activities we can all actively do together like that. I adore the effort that was put into the ride. So much handcrafted theming and depth. So many props, many of which are authentic. It's just a really solid attraction with a lot of love poured into it, and the recent challenges with maintenance don't tell the whole story about what the ride is or what it truly offers the park.

 

SDC just needs to go ahead and commit a couple million into modernizing the gun and target system and fixing the props that need fixing. They are too fixated on getting the next marketing gimmick though, so I fear they will simply gut it soon and replace it with a modern dark ride with screens instead of props. I think they are letting it die a slow death on purpose so there is less outrage when they do so.

 

I'll say one thing though, those "next level" rides like TT and OR sure have a lot of down-time lately, but FM keeps chugging along. Seems like the newer something is, the less reliable.

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Plus the capacity is sub par.

What are you smoking? They have 25 at a time on each boat-train and can run at least 3 boat-trains. There may be more in there too, not sure how many. They also have a grouper permanently just to make sure it fills up. I mean, short of an Omnimover there aren't many dark rides with better capacity than that.

 

As I said, we only go once a year so my perspective is probably skewed. But on my visit, it took an eternity to load and unload. We were also backed up for quite a while at last scene (the boat with cannons) trying to get back into the show building.

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Plus the capacity is sub par.

What are you smoking? They have 25 at a time on each boat-train and can run at least 3 boat-trains. There may be more in there too, not sure how many. They also have a grouper permanently just to make sure it fills up. I mean, short of an Omnimover there aren't many dark rides with better capacity than that.

 

As I said, we only go once a year so my perspective is probably skewed. But on my visit, it took an eternity to load and unload. We were also backed up for quite a while at last scene (the boat with cannons) trying to get back into the show building.

That tends to happen when you get a bunch of groups in one train (or would it be call a line of boats?) that don't understand "Please sit on a red dot, two in the front, one in the middle, two in the back, and adults sit on the opposite sides of the boat to balance things out" Or you get the group of kids who sit backwards, stick their hands in the water, and grab onto the station railings when dispatching. That tends to cause *some* issues.

 

Though i have noticed they are running 2 to 3 trains this year compared to the last few seasons. They used to have enough trains running where you could see the other train on the opposite side of the scene with the mine carts and the warden. Not sure how to describe that scene.

 

Really, the main issue i have with flooded mine is more the broken audio than physical props. Other than the runaway saw blade scene, and a few water pumps and props that have stopped working, most of the physical theming is in acceptable condition. Cant say the same for the audio. The soundtrack is 100% gone, and the dialogue in a few scenes doesn't work anymore (mainly the sleeping guard scene towards the end of the ride). Its just awkwardly quiet in the ride. All you can here is trickling water and the laser sounds from the guns.

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