sfmmfreak101 Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Robb was right, the outrage started with a Vice article. Here is update from the author of the original article after the show was cancelled: http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/universal-studios-canceled-their-homophobicracistterrible-bill-and-ted-show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeoplemoverMatt Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Robb was right, the outrage started with a Vice article. Here is update from the author of the original article after the show was cancelled: http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/universal-studios-canceled-their-homophobicracistterrible-bill-and-ted-show Yeah, I'm not buying this. The author got the result that was desired and now wants everyone to think it's all Universal's "massive overreaction" that got the show cancelled. That only tells me the author has learned exactly zero lessons about being "irresponsible" with your voice, and does not believe at all that any mistake was made on the author's part. It's pretty clear when the author dismissed any reaction that called the article PC or overly sensitive, or claimed that the gay Superman character was satire as "idiots," there's an enormous amount of satisfaction being felt over the show's cancellation. By that logic, anyone who has actually watched the show (unlike the author) and knows B&T is a comedy show and nothing in it is a realistic portrayal of anything are "idiots". As much as we'd all like to think the author was irresponsible here, it's clear the author feels the exact opposite, and would have no qualms about writing a similar article anytime anything else similarly perceived as "homophobic, racist, terrible" the author runs across. Author will just dismiss any criticism as from "idiots" again like was done with this one. I know Universal was in a tough place, but I wish they hadn't chosen to empower terrible people, like this author, who go around LOOKING for things to be offended by, by choosing to cancel the B&T show. Is Universal really to blame for the show's cancellation? No. The author is solely to blame, as is HuffPo and all the other media outlets who empowered the author by picking up the article and blindly running with it like they did. But again, the censorship/removal of content/outright cancellation was exactly what they all wanted. Everyone can be made fun of *except* them. Their sensitivities matter more than mine, yours, or anyone else's. Until someone does not cave to their wishes because they fear bad PR, it will only happen again and again. They need be told what everyone else gets told - it's a comedy show and comedians make fun of everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 What's amazing is that people complained about Bill & Ted, yet Book of Mormon continues to play in multiple cities every night. I guarantee you there is FAR more offensive material in BOM than Bill & Ted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfreak101 Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 ^I said the same thing to someone when the show first got cancelled - people pay more to get even more "offended" than anything Bill & Ted could ever come up with, and that show is still selling out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaronupsidasium Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I don't understand how you can blame the writer of the Vice article for a lot of this. He wrote a review about how terrible the show was and then wrote another article after the cancellation about how he got hate mail and no response from Universal. I saw the Vice article first on Facebook with friends (straight, gay, male, female) commenting about how terrible the show looked. I explained to them that I was going to the good Halloween Horror Nights in Orlando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 What's amazing is that people complained about Bill & Ted, yet Book of Mormon continues to play in multiple cities every night. I guarantee you there is FAR more offensive material in BOM than Bill & Ted! Ive been thinking the same thing. Hypocrisy at its finest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 The more it is discussed, the more the writer gets what he wants: publicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gax Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I saw the show and wasn't offended in the slightest. I didn't think the show was great, but that's simply because it isn't my kind of thing, nothing to do with anything that certain people consider to be 'offensive' about it. The way I see it, I think nowadays people are generally offended when they think they should be, as opposed to when they actually are. For example, when reading through that Vice article, I can imagine many members of an over-sensitive, overly 'pc' general public, thinking 'oh wow that's offensive', not because they have actually been personally offended by it, but because they think that they have seen something which 'should' offend them. That is the problem here I think, if people just stopped for a second to think about weather or not something has actually offended them personally, rather than just thinking that they should be offended by it to fit in with the common 'correct' perception, then less stupidity like this would happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPDave Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 What's amazing is that people complained about Bill & Ted, yet Book of Mormon continues to play in multiple cities every night. I guarantee you there is FAR more offensive material in BOM than Bill & Ted! Ive been thinking the same thing. Hypocrisy at its finest Or maybe they don't know and that just their next target, better go and see it soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 ^They're probably too cheap to buy tickets for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPDave Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 But they don't need to actually SEE it Chuck, they can just hear about it and be offended enough to complain and call for its closure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 ^The best outrage is free outrage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 So I think we've beaten to death the discussion about whether or not its offensive. I think the next question is, what happens next? Is this the end of low-brow halloween shows? You know that the execs will definately be scrutinizing everything about hhn next year to make sure there's nothing that can be used against them in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 You can still have a funny show without having to use "lowest common denominator" jokes (as I like to call them). Florida's Bill and Ted's was really good without a segment with a gay Superman... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necoastergp Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 You can still have a funny show without having to use "lowest common denominator" jokes (as I like to call them). Florida's Bill and Ted's was really good without a segment with a gay Superman... Agreed, the Florida version this year was very funny. I didn't see one person having a bad time in the crowd when I saw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunder Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 The Hanging at Knotts seemed to have extra gay jokes (and Universal references) last night, glad that guy didn't go there. I'm hoping someone at Universal doesn't decide to tone down the whole event. It will be interesting to see what impact this has on next year's event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 John has already stated on his twitter Bill and Ted's is the one area he has nothing to do with at HHN, so I doubt it will have any impact on the rest of the event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunder Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 ^Thanks, good to know. I think John would put up a hell of a fight if they tried. I'm presuming the event is a big money spinner for the Universal, and that's what talks to corporate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaronupsidasium Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 In the Florida one Superman and the male Leiah (or maybe it was Adam Levine, I can't remember) hook up. It's subtle but it was there. Kanye threw away a baby because it was a girl. I think I saw the same thing as you but I thought they were doing pantomiming the Eiffel Tower position without 'the middle'. Also, the Kanye scene was a parody of the beginning of Man of Steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaronupsidasium Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 It should also be noted that Superman is copyrighted character and it would be hard for Universal to justify it's inclusion in the show as ''fair use'' since it didn't parody or satire anything from Man of Steel or the comics. DC Comics/Warner Bros. gave a cease and desist to Universal for the infamous 2006 show that almost got the show cancelled for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I think it would qualify as parody, as it is spoofing how superman is always portrayed as the typical "manly man." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper39 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 What's amazing is that people complained about Bill & Ted, yet Book of Mormon continues to play in multiple cities every night. I guarantee you there is FAR more offensive material in BOM than Bill & Ted! Thank god this writer never saw BOM or else the show would have never made it out of dress rehearsals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 What's amazing is that people complained about Bill & Ted, yet Book of Mormon continues to play in multiple cities every night. I guarantee you there is FAR more offensive material in BOM than Bill & Ted! Thank Heavenly Father this writer never saw BOM or else the show would have never made it out of dress rehearsals! FIXED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garet Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 What's amazing is that people complained about Bill & Ted, yet Book of Mormon continues to play in multiple cities every night. I guarantee you there is FAR more offensive material in BOM than Bill & Ted! Thank god this writer never saw BOM or else the show would have never made it out of dress rehearsals! I wonder how the vice writer would have dealt with the days of Monty Python and their jokes against pretty much everything.... probably the same way Graham Chapman's (who was also openly gay but wrote these sketches) character used to at the end of the sketches. Closest example I could think of in relation to what upset the writer over Bill&Ted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25Qhbdijv5Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kritin_05 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 That's nice to hear. Can you please tell me where this event will take place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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