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It is amazing how truly clueless I am regarding music when walking around a park and waiting to ride.

Almost forget to mention. I saw Neal Thurman walking the park near The Joker yesterday. Since I'll probably meet him at a media event down the road, I introduced myself to him. I welcomed him to our park (I know a strange choice of words) and let him know that I'm glad to have him as the new park President, although I'll miss John Fitzgerald's demeanor at media events. That was going to be the extent of the conversation but he asked me a few questions about how my day was going. I let him know I was thrilled they were able to extend the season so I could get a few more rides on El Toro. He reminded me that Holiday in The Park would have extended offerings this year and I told him I was looking forward to it again, even though I was initially skeptical when HITP was announced last year. (Sorry, I forgot to mention all the love TPR regulars have for the Waffles)

As of noon crowds are light. One train ops on El Toro, so could not get rerides, but i was stuck on the lift hill at 11:30 for up 4 minutes. Kingda Ka and drop are down, assuming it is the wind. At Nathan to eat, only one person ahead of me, took about two minutes to order and get food.

Six Flags could also start charging a proper price for a season pass at a park that is open all year long. And you have RMCd Colossus. Here on the East Coast we have been appreciating El Toro for 10 years. 9 years between a brand new thrill coaster. History tells me SFMM fans would have been complaining for the last eight years and not as appreciative.

If the forecast holds up I think I'll visit the park Friday morning

Great Adventure El Toro Nitro Batman:The Ride Joker Bizarro Green Lantern Superman Kingda Ka Skull Mountain Runaway Mine Train Dark Knight Harley Quinn Crazy Train Road Runner Railway

I think this is the first time I have seen a PTR from Santa's Village without any creepy elves.

^Thanks for the info about Santa's Village. Although I love mountain coasters we are not adding their locations to the Park Index at this time.

At the time it was built there was an abundance of Haunted Houses in close proximity. Stand alone attractions in Long Branch and Brigantine were huge. My memories are fuzzy since it was so long ago, but here is what I remember. It was a long walk through but not as long as Brigantine Castle or the Haunted Mansion Long Branch. Also, although it was well done but not nearly are well done as the other haunted attractions I mentioned. Lots of teenagers would try to hide and hang out in the attraction trying to scare people, sometimes to better results than the scare actors. Many times the scare were not in your face but well themed rooms/scenes with the actors during there best to stay in character and be creepy. The scare actors did a good job, but the scares you saw back then were more creepy scary then surprise you scary. The anticipation and build up to the scares were bigger than the actual scares. Lighting was inconsistent, in some places too dark and others too well lit. I remember walking through it at least three times with friends during school trips and it was always fun. One of the most anticipated attractions in the park for teenagers.

7-10 minutes between dispatches was not uncommon

^^Also Rolling Thunder did not need RMC treatment. It ran very well (albeit with still horrible operations) after they re-tracked it. Then they shut it down at the end of the season after re-tracking. I don't understand why they re-tracked it right before shutting it down, seems like a waste of funds. My biggest gripe with Six Flags is the number of areas where attractions shut down that remain undeveloped, not just The Old Country

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Manufacturers build what the parks ask for: The mistake with the SLCs lies with the parks that kept buying them As far as B&M not being able to build quality stand-ups and Flying Coasters: Parks should demand coasters like Georgia Scorcher, Riddler's Revenge, Tatsu, Starry Sky Ripper, Manta

They make money in two ways: Because the food doesn't cost that much to begin with, their profit margin per burger, drink, or chicken strip might be lower but they are making money. For example: that $5.00 coke only costs $0.25, your $12.00 meal only costs the park $3.00, that $7 funnel cake costs the park only $0.75. The park's overhead in the form of salary and utilities does not change whether you use the meal pass or pay full price. Not everyone that buys the pass ends up making as many trips to the park the they planned. While you might only need to eat 7-8 meals to break even over the year, the park probably makes money on anyone eating less than 15-16 meals over the season for the park. My figures are speculative, and my break even comments are presumptive, but directionally I think the point I'm making is fair.

Interesting. It seems like it could go one of two ways. Either it will be a very big change that will push the park into more diverse territory with a bigger emphasis on competing with Silver Dollar City and SFSTL or it will be more of the same - incremental updates. So it will stay the same or change. That's a bold prediction Captain Obvious.

Same old same old http://www.nj.com/bergen/index.ssf/2016/11/american_dream_deferred_developer_postpones_115b_b.html American Dream deferred: developer postpones $1.15B bond issue November 4, 2016 John Reitmeyer State officials say it's only a minor glitch in getting financing for the planned megamall and entertainment complex in the Meadowlands The developer of the long-stalled American Dream mall and entertainment complex at the former Xanadu site in the Meadowlands has missed another key deadline this week with the delay of a crucial $1.15 billion bond issue. State officials who've been helping to usher the project through to completion say this latest delay should only be temporary, attributing the holdup to the complicated nature of developer Triple Five's latest effort to raise the billions of dollars it needs to fully resume construction at the state-owned site near the New Jersey Turnpike in East Rutherford that's known for its large and oft-derided multicolored buildings. But still unclear is exactly how big of a setback the delay will prove to be. Triple Five executives suggested in court documents filed in late September in the face of a lawsuit that unsuccessfully sought to block the bond sale that the stakes were extremely high. Missing this week's deadline could risk "default and/or foreclosure and the likely failure altogether of American Dream," the developer's court documents said. Spokesmen for Triple Five did not comment on the delayed bond sale yesterday, which was first reported in a story published by The Record newspaper. A spokesman for Gov. Chris Christie, whose administration has put up more than $1 billion in state tax incentives to help get the project to the finish line, pointed to comments the governor made several months ago about American Dream's fate now resting in the hands of the Canada-based developer and its ability to find investors. Triple Five, the owner of the sprawling Mall of America in Minnesota, took over the project from another developer in 2011 but has faced numerous delays and missed deadlines, including the shelving of another planned bond sale last year. But over the summer this year Triple Five seemed to have been reinvigorated, winning approval from two different state agencies for yet another version of its complex state-assisted finance package. The developer's latest financing plan involves raising $350 million via the sale of tax-exempt bonds backed by a tax incentive authorized by the New Jersey Economic Development Authority and another $800 million by selling tax-exempt bonds backed by a regular payment in lieu of taxes from the developer under state redevelopment law. The New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority and the Wisconsin Public Finance Authority are both being utilized to facilitate the tax-exempt component of the bond sale, which involves nonrecourse bonds that state officials have promised will shift all risk to potential investors, not taxpayers, in the event the project fails. Triple Five, meanwhile, has been planning to raise another $1.5 billion in a related transaction from private investors. Taken together, company officials have said the financing package would raise the cash it needs to resume construction at the sprawling site in the NJSEA-owned sports complex. The proceeds would also help Triple Five pay off a prior construction loan that comes due in early November, company executives said in documents submitted to the state Superior Court's Appellate Division after an unsuccessful legal challenge mounted in September by a group that opposed the developer's use of the state tax incentives. Despite the strong statements made by Triple Five executives in the court documents, a spokesman for NJSEA suggested in a statement yesterday that the delay of the bond sale beyond the early November deadline may only be temporary. "The NJSEA is working diligently through the complex and multifaceted document preparation and review process," the statement from spokesman Brian Aberback said. "This intricate process involves several entities and it is important that the NJSEA conduct a thorough and comprehensive analysis prior to taking the next step toward the completion of American Dream." "The Authority expects the public offering of the bonds to take place this month," the statement said. Other questions were referred to Triple Five's spokesmen, who did not comment. If the project does remain on schedule, it would mean a mid-2018 opening for American Dream, which represents an expansion of the Xanadu complex once envisioned by Mills Corp. and Mack-Cali Realty Corp. and later taken over by another developer, Colony Capital. Triple Five's latest plans are more ambitious than the original Xanadu concept, calling for a 3-million-square-foot complex that will feature retail stores, restaurants, movie theater, indoor amusement park, ski slope, ice rink, Ferris wheel, aquarium, and 18-hole miniature golf course. Christie, who once called the vacant complex "the ugliest damn building in America," had at one point boldly predicted American Dream would open by early 2014, just as the state was preparing to host the National Football League's Super Bowl at MetLife Stadium, also located in the state-owned sports complex. Facing questions last June about the project's subsequent delays and setbacks, as well as the likelihood that American Dream now wouldn't open until after he leaves office in early 2018, Christie said it was no longer a "front-burner" issue for his administration. "We'll keep plugging away, but I think it's really, quite frankly, now in the hands of the developers and the credit markets and who's willing to invest and who's not willing to invest," Christie said at the time.

http://lavallette-seaside.shorebeat.com/2016/11/seaside-heights-bans-drones-over-casino-pier-construction-site/ This drone footage in the attached article was released before local authorities banned drones from flying over the construction site. It provides a good visually representation of where the pier is expanding.

$145 Million was too much to pay. Six Flags was desperate to sell to pay down debt. There was not another operator willing to pay that much. There was no other threat.

No. Larry please ban this man. He's posting recklessly and has no respect for law and order. PS: in all seriousness I love the sculpture idea but I'd much rather they make urinal cakes out of it. Lol I won't ban him, but would like him to lay off the Morey Piers Kool Aid for one month.

The only thing Cedar Fair did wrong was overpay for this property it was never going to be real competition to Cedar Point under a cash strapped Six Flags

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I have been saying the same thing for years. While I enjoy my SF season pass price, I think CF has a more sustainable business model with it's higher price. And SF has done a great job upselling especially with the Meal Pass. I think my season pass may actually be cheaper than it was about ten years ago, when SFGAdv did charge considerable more than the other SF parks.

Here is a tip. Stop creating threads asking stupid questions!

^I hope I'm one of the paid ones