John Peck

Actually, according to Wikiapedia (which can always be wrong: On June 20, 2011, Ouimet was named president of Cedar Fair Entertainment Company. He assumed the CEO position on January 3, 2012. That sounds pretty correct... http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2012/04/01/New-Cedar-Fair-CEO-has-fresh-outlook-on-fun.html But the point is no, there has been no coaster relocation during Matt's reign as CEO. It also doesn't mean he won't change his mind. CEO's constantly evolve in their positions.

That's still pretty high! I've seen quite a few giraffes! I don't mind disagreeing with you, at least you've made it entertaining. I am also happy I was able to come up in 2015 and enjoy your little corner of the world. Vallyfair was a treat and I hope great things happen for you guys. I still think the road re-routing may take longer than many of us think due to how much wetland there is, but who knows, I'm no engineer. And if you do get Knotts boomerang, I will happily come up and ride it with you in seat 7-1, RCjunkie, even though I got the credit years ago. Oh, you do have a relocated coaster, and that is the cosmic coaster... removed from Dorney in 2010 and sent to you in 2011. And of course Invertigo was removed from CGA in late 2010 and opened at Dorney in early 2012...while Matt O. was working for the company, though he didn't initiate the relocation, so I am incredibly intrigued as to what will happen to Knotts Boomerang as it was taken apart so carefully. I still think it could wind up at CGA.

If it's in great shape, the Boomerang will probably have a new lease on life. I know we are talking about different companies, but wasn't Flashback like 20-some years old when Six Flags moved it from Texas to St. Louis? Maybe the Vekomas hold up well. The "General Public" will have no idea it's that old... you gotta stop thinking like an enthusiast. It's will be brand-spanking new to them. People around here think Mystic Timbers replaced the Beast. Where would a Boomerang go? I'm sure in a couple of places well away from the waterpark. They don't take up that much room, and the lifts can easily be positioned over buildings. As for the rumor of Dueling Dragons getting replaced by an expansion... which I don't understand personally (isn't two Harry Potter areas enough?). Hulk was like 90% rebuilt, I think due to lifetime wear, so Dragons might be in the same boat. If that's removed, the track and supports may have so many cracks, that it might have to be scrapped all together. I mean, other than an occasional refurbishment, it has been running almost every day since 1999. Though I'm sure a few sections of track have been replaced while down. Our Raptor here at CP has had the cobra roll replaced at least once. Anyway, that's my theory, it doesn't mean I'm correct, but if I'm Valleyfair and I'm inevitably losing a pretty big coaster for a huge waterpark and infrastructure expansion, a used boomerang which doesn't take up much space might work as the HOT NEW RIDE for 2018 while the expansion takes place. I'm no engineer, I just think the parking lot/gate, etc. is going to be a 2-year project and happen in 2019 (or open in phases starting with the employee parking first backstage). Again, just a theory, nothing to worry about.

There is little to no chance Valleyfair is getting two old, used, crappy Verona coasters. Your analysis makes absolutely no sense. Cedar Fair is the chain that DOESN'T relocate roller coasters; view the Matt Oumiet interview from a couple of years ago. Plus, Valleyfair is an expansion park. I would expect the removal of Excalibur, but I wholly believe that Valleyfair will receive a new roller coaster by 2020. *IF Cedar Fair does decide to relocate, which would surprise me a lot, anything would go to Michigan's Adventure. Ugggg... a few of you guys are missing my essential thoughts, and not really trying to understand them, so let's tackle this another way... I DO think Cedar Fair are holding onto the Boomerang... someone at a Knotts fan site mentioned a new single Vekoma train was ordered recently (not that it's for boomerang, but you never know) so, if they do keep it.. there are 4 parks (excluding CP that probably will never get one) it could be transplanted to: CGA, MIA, VF or KD. I'm going to skip out on mentioning the other parks because this is the Valleyfair thread. So, let's say Excalibur is gone either this year or over the winter... They are down a coaster, regardless. The road and parking lot project, I think, is going to be HUGE. I personally don't see a new waterpark gate and parking lot open as well as some new water attractions until 2019... That means 2018 might be a year for another dry ride, and if VF are down a coaster, and there is a Boomerang available, and there is NOTHING like it in a several hours drive, VF sounds like a darn fine place for it to wind up. I think the public will go nuts for it. It's not super-huge and can fit in quite a few places. Onto my hypothetical Wonderlands Flight Deck comment... Matt O. did say he doesn't like taking out and replanting "popular" rides, but with the huge numbers up there, I could see that and the flying coaster be removed for a B&M Invert people-sucker like Banshee in its spot... and with Valleyfair not having a full circuit invert, and fight deck being pretty compact, and about half the cost..., it might just fit the Dinos Alive area quite well... just a thought, and this would be several YEARS down the road, no need to worry about it... And again, nothing quite like it anywhere in that market... the GP will eat it up. Of course, a B&M Invert would always be a better product. Anyway, that's how my mind was working. Thanks for reading.

^ Maybe, or my idea of Wonderland eventually moving their SLC down to Valleyfair and getting themselves a B&M invert instead. I know I have mentioned that a few times, but I just think it's a better financial option.

I was almost ready to bet it was going to be Knotts Boomerang until I saw the 100 height. Then I thought the S&S 4d's, but those are 120'. Whatever it is, I'm looking forward.

I figure with the cost of labor and equipment, just clear everything at the same time... including Excalibur. That's what they did with Kings Island, they didn't tear down Son of Beast (terrible coaster, by the way) until they were ready to prep the land, so in September and October of 2012 it started coming down, after that the land was cleared and smoothed out for banshee which started in late spring of 2013. Now... if you are going to remove a coaster from a smaller park with not a super-huge line up, what do you do? You replace it with a new coaster of course... CGA will have a 100 ft height coaster as we know, and as much as I thought Knotts' Boomerang (125') was going to wind up there, I'm not so sure now... so new at Valleyfair in 2018... "Boomerang!" And a new waterpark expansion/gate/parking completed for 2019. Not saying that will happen, but it might it's just crazy enough to make some sense.

A downloadable PDF of the wetland proposal: http://www.mvp.usace.army.mil/Portals/57/docs/regulatory/MN-Standard/2014004059P.pdf

It's always possible that Valleyfair gets the Boomerang from Knotts and Great America gets Steel Venom from Valleyfair .

Great photos everyone. Put me in the bummed category about the Enterprise, I would like to see it replaced with a newer model... I mean, they already have the foundation, just replace it with a new one maybe the following year after removing it... so it will at least be something "new" to market.

If Boomerang winds up at MiA (which I doubt, but who knows, I might be eating my words) I would think that it would replace Corksscrew.

The webcams have "disappeared." I would guess that testing has or is close to beginning.

Good Friday was a public opening day in 2014 when Banshee debuted. The lines for it were 7 hours long. Now, this gold pass preview isn't a "public" day, so there is a good chance the lines won't be as long, but I personally would skip going.

That poor person. Uggg... look at the children freaking out, too.... so bad for everyone there.

you know, I saw your photo and i was inspired to dig up a photo from my only visit to the park back in 2005 when I did 18-flags over texas: October 15, 2005

Fixed That's cool. I didn't realize you could change quotes like that. Haha!

I've posted this elsewhere, but I still like my idea of a ride rotation for Cedar Fair: - Remove Steel Venom from Valleyfair, send it to Great America - Remove Flight Deck from Canada's Wonderland, send it to Valleyfair (replaces Steel Venom) - Remove the Time Warp Flying Coaster from Canada's Wonderland, send it to Michigans Adventure for 2018 - Build Giant new Banshee-like Inverted B&M (3 trains) for Canada's Wonderland due to their enormous attendance

Geauga Lakes Texas Twister was 1993. It was the first permanent installation in the country. It lasted a lot longer than many of the others. I know Dorney's is gone and I "Think" Worlds of Fun's is, too. That would make the last remaining HUSS models at Cedar Fair be at Kings Dominion and Valleyfair.

I don't know for certain, but it looks like the roof was redone on Vortex... it looks shiny.

If you have a Gold Pass to KI or Cedar Fair Platinum Pass, the 2017 early rides are as follows: 2017 Early Rides Lineup April - June Mystic Timbers, Diamondback and select Planet Snoopy Rides July - October Mystic Timbers, Banshee, Delirium and select Planet Snoopy Rides Soak City Waterpark (Daily) Tropical Plunge, Tidal Wave Bay and Pipeline Paradise *Early rides lineup subject to change For the link to the page, go to: www.visitkingsisland.com/season-pass-benefits/early-ride-time

I was able to go to Animal Kingdom prior to its grand opening in 1998, which would have been 2 years before it had a coaster, so I liked it then and after they added with Primeval whirl, it didn't really make the park any better until later on when they really started adding larger E-ticket attractions.

Oh no... that's terrible... 39 years old. I just got the Opryland book for Christmas, too.

My nearly missed credits have been actual parks... after hearing about closing, we went to miracle strip and on the same trip, hit some of the gulf coast parks including six flags new Orleans in 2004, then in 2005 we went to texas for astroworld and hot sfot and sfft thus getting the original texas giant and the modified rattler. Oh, and Cypress gardens when for the short time they had the Starliner... so i go to ride both the original and the modified one.

I spent a day (got a chance to work at the park in rides) running the Eyerly Spider at what was then Wyandot Lake. Very hard on the hands and back. I also ran a Hampton Umbrella ride at a carnival... lots of standing. I also got to help tear down a loop o plane and Eli wheel.... fun adventures, but I'd rather be riding.

You're right... A.R.M.... I was thinking it was Larson