John Peck

^ The Bat does not have Fastlane. most others do, so you shouldn't have a serious problem with it.

Now onto the pics of the storm: something wicked this way comes blowing wind and debris leading out of the park notice the flooded lower parking lot my hotel sign before and after

I was there Friday and Saturday. I was on the carousel when the storm came up and remained huddled underneath it for the duration... I have never been so scared. Massive winds and branches coming down all around me. Fortunately, my Geauga Lake carousel knew I was there and she protected me. (I grew up at geauga) I will post some pictures later. We left around 6pm so I don't know if the park closed for the night at that point... the parking lot was a standstill, so that took almost another hour to get out of. I drove by the hotel where I stayed the previous night (Fairfield Inn) and the massive 70' sign was down. And yes, I rode the boomerang. They seemed to close some of the high rides earlier in the day because of wasps.

Why do you say Ninja is a trap? Just because you don't like it, or is there something else I should be aware of? I rode it in the past, it was okay I guess, I don't remember anything about it.

Okay, i wondered because Wipeouts in Ohio (as well as Chance rides with no seat dividers... Trabants, Zippers, Skywheels) require two riders.

^ that's cool. I suppose you need 2 riders for cyclone sams?

Planning a trip out to Sf St. Louis next Sunday the 15th. Any helpful advice? It's my second time since 2005. We have SF Gold passes. - Is there early entry for Gold Passholders? - Any low capacity VR rides I should consider hopping on first? - Does American Thunder have padded seats or rubber seats?

Planning a trip out to WOF next Friday and Saturday. Any helpful advice? It's my first time. We have cedar fair platinum passes and the dining plans. - Any super special rides that I need to be aware of? - Does Prowler have padded seats or rubber seats?

^ Thanks, Larry. I appreciate your hard work.

The Flyers used to move faster, but they moved them next to the Tornado and slowed them down. Seems like they removed a lot of trees near the carousel. I haven't been there in 13 years, I should go back.

Its also only holds the same amount (40) as the other Discovery Models... you would think that since it's claimed to be bigger that it would hold a few more. The HUSS ones hold 50. Regardless... great ride for the park.

This is good considering they took out their Trabant a few seasons ago. Nice to see a park install one of these.

Yep... "America's Greatest Roller Coaster Thrills 2 "In 3D" "

Since I'm making my first trip to SFA since 2003, what order of things should I do? It will be Labor Day, so it could get busy. I am planning to get a SF pass (higher end) for 2018 and use it this season. Is there any early ride times or early admission?

Yes, you can buy it here for use at any SF park. Gold members get in a little early. No, what I mean is, can I buy my 2018 pass but use it multiple times in "2017" (this remaining season) at various SF parks.

Planning my trip to SFA Labor Day weekend. I know I have asked this but just a double-check... historically, you can in fact buy the next years (2018) pass and use it as much as you want at ANY SF park the previous year (2017), correct? Does this park have an early admission time for passholders? I'm trying to decide if I want the regular pass or the gold. I have not had a SF pass since 2006.

We once went the Saturday after labor day and it was hot, extremely crowded and the water park was closed for the season... miserable time because of that.

Now for my 2¢ a week late, but better late than never... I do think this is a good new addition, especially if the Looping Starship is going away. Plus, this closes up the back of the midway with a "backdrop" much like what the Giant wheel at Cedar point did for that oceana midway. Though, I feel this would have been a better ride for Nick Universe due to the small footprint and something larger (like the often mentioned giant Frisbee) would have been better for an outside park like Valleyfair, but if starship is going, then this is a good replacement. Interesting that they decided to build a whole new pad for the Tilt a Whirl instead of moving it to where the Scrambler used to be. They do have quite a few great places for future rides. If they aren't going to use that helix space on Wild Thing, it would be nice if they put a few trees in there. I still do think that the waterpark will be a 2-year project with an opening in 2019 or 2020 with Excalibur now closing mid-season next year. I wanted the Knotts Boomerang theory to be true because it's still a pretty good ride for a smaller park, but who knows. I am anxious to see where it winds up and if Cedar Fair is or isn't keeping it. Anyway, congrats on your new ride and the great enhancements to that midway and your future expansion.

Still planning my trip to SFGr Adv Labor Day weekend. I know I have asked this but just a double-check... historically, you can in fact buy the next years (2018) pass and use it as much as you want at ANY SF park the previous year (2017), correct? Also, Do you know what time (8pm, 9pm, etc.) they stop processing passes at the park. We may get there a little late one of those nights and to save time in the morning, I wondered if I could process the pass the night before the main trip to save time in the morning, so I didn't want to waste the trip if this was a no-go.

Right, as bad and as tragic as this accident was, it's only going to improve ride inspections, safety, building and material strengthening. Those who don't learn from their mistakes are prone to repeating them. And the industry learns a lot very fast. Think of how far we have come in 500 years of rides... from the early wooden man-powered wheels to the machines of today. Oh, I did attend the fair and have pictures of fireball with a portion covered up (taken from public areas) IF you guys want to see it.

Weird about Windseeker. I haven't been there since 2005, but then I noticed that their coasters (besides afterburn and the new beemers) were really so-so. Vortex was okay but painful as was Cyclone... and I love Arrows, but that bumped and vibrated like crazy... so disappointing. Hurler did nothing for me, which is weird because Thunder Run at KK is so good. I would also love to see a GCI in the back of the park.

A few days late to this discussion but fanny packs are OK on everything except El Toro and Joker. I've been able to wear mine on Ka before with no issues but with the latest no-loose-articles-even-wallets policies in place on Toro and Joker, they will probably make you put it in a lo cker for Ka. Sunglasses with straps are allowed on all rides and I wear mine on everything including Joker (against the advice of the ops.) My straps are pushed far onto the arms of the glasses and I make the back drawstring straps very snug just before getting on the ride. I've ridden everything under the sun at many different parks this way (Tomb Raider at KD, X2 at Magic Mountain, etc.) and never had them move an inch. You should be fine to bring an umbrella in though especially if it's a collapsable one. Have fun and report back! Now what about my small camera case that attaches to my belt on all other rides? Are we allowed to take pictures on the Parachute tower? That's one of the rides I really want to do.

A of A is out of New Jersey, so who knows how much salty air and water their rides have been exposed to. On another note, the Fireball is still standing, though they have put trailers around the ride to fence it off and also, yesterday was the funeral (a Military Funeral, too) for Tyler Jarrell. Here is a link to the other injured riders status'. Many do not sound good, still: http://www.10tv.com/article/update-victims-ohio-state-fair-ride-accident Published: 08/02/17 08:05 pm EDT. Updated: 08/02/17 08:10 pm EDT. We have an update on the four people are still in the hospital following last week's ride accident at the Ohio State Fair. Eighteen-year-old Jennifer Lambert is critical at Grant Medical Center. Her mother tells 10TV she still hasn't woken up. Thirty-six-year-old Tamica Dunlap is at the Wexner Medical Center in serious condition. Her uncle, Russell Franks, is in critical condition. Eighteen-year-old Keziah Lewis is at Wexner Medical in serious condition. Lewis is a student at the University of Cincinnati, studying in English and creative writing. Eighteen-year-old Tyler Jarrell died in the accident. He was laid to rest Tuesday. Two others who were hurt have been released from the hospital.

^ I know. That tower fire was heartbreaking. Apparently the material in the building construction was so flammable that building or its residents didn't stand a chance. I heard there are like another 100 buildings like that in England with the same materials.... but back to the subject on hand. I don't know if the fireball is still up at the fair or it has been taken down yet. I'm planning to go Saturday.

^ Oh my, I guess I am spoiled with the 1 hour early entry at Cedar point and the 30 minutes at Kings island...