DOCTOR DOOM!!! Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 ^ I believe Giovanola is a subcontractor (excluding SoCal Goliath, Titan, and Anaconda which they built themselves) for those early Intamins, and for early B&Ms until B&M built there own plant close to Cincinnati in order to cut down on shipping cost. Overseas, B&M still use Giovanola as a subcontractor. Also Bolliger & Mabillard use to work for Intamin before starting their own company. This is only what I am led to believe. I may be wrong...
Sammy* Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 ^ I believe Giovanola is a subcontractor (excluding SoCal Goliath, Titan, and Anaconda which they built themselves) for those early Intamins, and for early B&Ms until B&M built there own plant close to Cincinnati in order to cut down on shipping cost. Overseas, B&M still use Giovanola as a subcontractor. Also Bolliger & Mabillard use to work for Intamin before starting their own company. This is only what I am led to believe. I may be wrong... I think that sound about right, now I read something a while back as to why Giovanola stopped designing there own coaster, but I cant remember the what happened.
DarienLaker Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Aren't there any of Astroworld's former coasters that have been relocated and are still operating?
Double0Kevin Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 ^ The SLC is at La Ronde I believe and The Drop tower is at SF St. Louis. Also the S&S Sky Swatter is at SFNE.
DarienLaker Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 ^^ And the ProSlide Mammoth water slide from Astroworld's water park is at Darien Lake's Splashtown!
vacoaster09 Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Also Diablo Falls is now Splashwater falls at SFNE as well.
DarienLaker Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Also Texas Tornado was moved to SFDK as the ill fated Zonga and it now at some Latin American theme park where it is now known as "Tsunami".
3Mutts Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Mayan Mindbender went to Wonderland Amusement Park and operates as Hornet now. Also Greezed Lightining may finally be put back in operation at Cliffs Amusement Park.
pyrocoasterkid Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 ^ I believe Giovanola is a subcontractor (excluding SoCal Goliath, Titan, and Anaconda which they built themselves) for those early Intamins, and for early B&Ms until B&M built there own plant close to Cincinnati in order to cut down on shipping cost. Overseas, B&M still use Giovanola as a subcontractor. Also Bolliger & Mabillard use to work for Intamin before starting their own company. This is only what I am led to believe. I may be wrong... The steel plant existed before B&M began using them for their US (and maybe now worldwide) track manufacturing. Interestingly, Walter Bolliger came to the plant in the late 80's after noticing the solid work they had previously done, most notably on the structure for Vortex (Kings Island) and Shockwave (SF Great America). I just saw this article posted within the last week, I'm not sure how many of you have seen it before. It has some GREAT insight and pictures on the steel plant that produces the B&M track: newsplusnotes.blogspot.com/2008/12/scott-carol-present.html
prozach626 Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 Ultra twister still sits at sfa in a field as well. Any chance we will see this ride operate again?http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/files/100_2479__medium__1.jpg Hmm I don't if Ultra Twister was dismantled properly? If it was we could see this once one of kind coaster in operation once again either in SFA or another park! Will probably be the "new" attraction for SFSTL in 2015...
prozach626 Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 ^ I believe Giovanola is a subcontractor (excluding SoCal Goliath, Titan, and Anaconda which they built themselves) for those early Intamins, and for early B&Ms until B&M built there own plant close to Cincinnati in order to cut down on shipping cost. Overseas, B&M still use Giovanola as a subcontractor. Also Bolliger & Mabillard use to work for Intamin before starting their own company. This is only what I am led to believe. I may be wrong... The steel plant existed before B&M began using them for their US (and maybe now worldwide) track manufacturing. Interestingly, Walter Bolliger came to the plant in the late 80's after noticing the solid work they had previously done, most notably on the structure for Vortex (Kings Island) and Shockwave (SF Great America). I just saw this article posted within the last week, I'm not sure how many of you have seen it before. It has some GREAT insight and pictures on the steel plant that produces the B&M track: newsplusnotes.blogspot.com/2008/12/scott-carol-present.html Good read. Thanks for the post.
robbalvey Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 Ultra twister still sits at sfa in a field as well. Any chance we will see this ride operate again?http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/files/100_2479__medium__1.jpg Hmm I don't if Ultra Twister was dismantled properly? If it was we could see this once one of kind coaster in operation once again either in SFA or another park! Will probably be the "new" attraction for SFSTL in 2015... I can't imagine this would ever be a "new" attraction for any park other than a scrap yard.
cfc Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 ^Sad, but true. Ultra Twisters can be a lot of fun. I liked the two in Japan.
Hilltopper39 Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 ^Yeah, I'm kind of surprised that no modern ride companies have attempted to design a "new" version of the Ultra Twister concept. I would think that with modern technology that concept would be fairly simple to re-create with more success than the originals. I could imagine a lot of cool applications for compact installations, maybe even enclose the experience with some additional themeing. A "new" ultra twister has S&S written all over it, so if you're reading this S&S engineers GET TO IT!
cfc Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 An indoor Ultra Twister with some cool lighting and sound could be a great ride--a natural for for a fantasy or sci-fi theme.
Meteornotes Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 ^That's a really good idea. Would love to see some more of these get built, as all the ones I've been on were a lot of fun. dt
jray21 Posted October 27, 2012 Posted October 27, 2012 I would love to see another Ultra Twister in the US as well, but not holding my breath. I really like Chuck's idea. They could a lot of fun stuff!
DarienLaker Posted April 14, 2013 Posted April 14, 2013 Maybe S&S could build a new Ultra Twister coaster for Darien Lake next year!
Aceattack52 Posted April 14, 2013 Posted April 14, 2013 It's interesting how they left some of the electronics on there like the proximity sensors. It's also kind of cool how they made it look just like a B&M.
A.J. Posted April 15, 2013 Posted April 15, 2013 It's also kind of cool how they made it look just like a B&M. It looks like a B&M because it technically "is" a B&M. Bolliger and Mabillard were working for Intamin when the stand-ups and Space Divers were built. Batman was built as Shockwave at Magic Mountain in 1986, and Cobra was built as Stand Up at Skara Sommerland in 1988.
Aceattack52 Posted April 15, 2013 Posted April 15, 2013 That makes perfect sense. There has been an entire evolution of B&M design in terms of how the track looks. Maybe I'll post a gallery later.
DarienLaker Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 When did Intamin started to make coasters with the "girder" style tracks?
A.J. Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 They started using the two-rail track with diagonal cross ties on their "Family" coaster line, which includes rides like the MGM Grand Lightning and the Great Adventure Skull Mountain. LaQua's Linear Gale (impulse coaster) was the first Intamin to use the three-rail, and Superman Ultimate Escape (now Possessed at Dorney Park) was the first with the four-rail track. I think. Looking at photographs in the Park Index and the RCDB only takes your coaster knowledge so far...
DarienLaker Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 If Darien Lake's new coaster is a steel coaster maybe they should consider melting down the former Shockwave/Batman coaster!
craftyncrazy Posted May 17, 2013 Posted May 17, 2013 I hope its OK to post on something this old, but I want to say... That I hated this ride! I am sad to see it wasting away though. Mostly because I am nostalgic about anything from Astroworld.
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