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^ So a Cedar Fair "We love birds and we show it" recap:

 

Skyhawk

Thunderhawk

Raptor

Talon

Firehawk

Woodstock Express (Woodstock the bird from the Peanuts comics)

The Patriot (Bald eagle depiction in ride logo)

 

Actually, the entire amusement park industry seems to have something for birds in general

 

The Raven

Screamin' Eagle

American Eagle

Talon

Condor

Raptor

Timberhawk: Ride of Prey

Hummingbird

Eagle Fortress

Screechin' Eagle

Screaming Condor

Red Falcon

Thunder Eagle

Skyhawk

Hayabusa

Thunderbird

Griffon

Ladybird

Firehawk

Woodstock Express

ShieKra

Thunderhawk

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"After boarding their four-across yellow and red pilot seats, guests are lowered backward and begin their ascent up the 115-foot-tall red and steel gray lift hill, only to be flipped over and jetted at top speeds through ½ mile of steel track over the course of 2 minutes and 30 seconds!"

 

Yeah, it'll be a different color. Although I think neon orange track would've been awesome.

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Certainly not much of a release. I was hoping for some digital imaging. I'm wondering how the ride will fit into the area and how it will be themed. Also I'd like to hear from the park how this ride came to KI and what the management thinks of it.

So hoping for a bit more info, and some quality photos and videos.

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An article in a Cleveland Newspaper had some improvements for the 2007 season:

 

~ Doubled the number of cabanas for rent in the water park

 

~ New food and games (perhaps those little squares on the map where the Monorail was?)

 

~ "Sprucing" up for on of the park's main eateries

 

~ Palace Theater will have a magic show

 

~ Two thrill rides are getting paint jobs

 

~ "movie/simulator " is being rethemed - COOL!

 

~ One ride will have cameras in the seats for buy-a-video-of-your-ride sales

 

-Mr. Falfas concludes by noting they have invested a lot of money into sprucing up the park. He also says that there are new attractions planned for the park, but declined comment.

-Stacy Frole notes that the company beleives that the park has grown, noting the park had fewer operating days last season and brought in the same number of guests.

 

One can assume that Domaintor and Head Spin will be the ones to be repainted.

 

Heres the full article but it's register to view:

http://www.crainscleveland.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070205/REG/70202030/1071/2020

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From cranescleveland.com

 

Summary: The park is confirming that it will be removed and moved to "storage" at another park.

 

The thrill isn’t gone, but some of it is going.

 

Three seasons into its ownership of Geauga Lake and Wildwater Kingdom, parent company Cedar Fair says the changes at the Aurora park are by design as it ships out two high-profile roller coasters and strives to create a more intimate, family-centered image for the property.

 

In the two seasons that previous owner Six Flags operated the park, it upped the adrenaline quotient at Geauga Lake by adding five roller coasters. Two of those, X-Flight and Steel Venom, are headed for other Cedar Fair destinations: The bright green twists of X-Flight’s track will be reconstructed at Kings Island, while the red spires of Steel Venom are destined for storage at another park, said Cedar Fair chief operating officer Jack Falfas.

 

Aesthetics, operating and maintenance costs and stagnant park attendance all factored into pulling down the coasters and the park’s monorail, Mr. Falfas said. Geauga Lake also removed the towering Mr. Hyde’s Nasty Fall ride from the same part of the park before last summer.

 

Mr. Falfas said the presence of several big rides near the park’s entrance made it “not as inviting” as a Cedar Fair park should be. As for the monorail, it toted passengers over land where Geauga Lake’s original water park once stood, and Mr. Falfas likened that part of the park to “scars on the earth” that he’d rather visitors not see.

 

 

“Our intent is to clean up that whole front area,” he said. “They have a large number of roller coasters and rides in there. It’s more than what the guest demand is (justifying) right now, particularly the way we’re going.”

 

Since buying the former Six Flags Worlds of Adventure for $145 million in the spring of 2004, Cedar Fair has tinkered incessantly and added a full-fledged water park but seen zero attendance growth: Geauga Lake drew roughly 700,000 visitors in 2006, the same number as in each of the previous two summers.

 

Mr. Falfas says it has become clear that Geauga Lake’s appeal lies as a cozy, regional attraction rather than a thrill-seeker’s paradise.

 

“I think at first, some people assumed — and maybe we did ourselves — that Geauga Lake was ‘Cedar Point East,’” he said, referring to the Sandusky park’s reputation as a coaster capital. “It’s not going to be a Cedar Point East. It is a local park, it’s a great picnic park, it’s a community thing.”

 

 

While Cedar Fair has removed the X-Flight coaster, the company’s chief operating officer, Jack Falfas, says it isn’t abandoning the park’s ride side.

Photo credit: GEAUGA LAKE TODAY

 

 

Riding the water park wave

 

In a conference call last November, Cedar Fair CEO Dick Kinzel said while the company has made progress at Geauga Lake, from a fiscal standpoint, “the park still has a footprint too large for its attendance.”

 

While Cedar Fair has trumpeted an $83 million spending plan for its 12 amusement parks, six water parks and six hotels this offseason, about $61 million of that is tied up in major projects at five amusement parks.

 

Among the big projects is Maverick, a $21 million roller coaster at Cedar Point. Kings Island near Cincinnati, Kings Dominion in Richmond, Va., Valleyfair in Shakopee, Minn., and the year-round Knott’s Berry Farm in Buena Park, Calif., are receiving between $7 million and $11 million each in additions and improvements.

 

That leaves $22 million to be split among the remaining properties. Cedar Fair is not releasing a dollar figure for Geauga Lake’s planned offseason capital improvements, though park vice president and general manager Bill Spehn says the spending will “focus on guest service” as opposed to big-ticket attractions.

 

Such improvements include doubling the number of cabanas available for rent alongside the wave pool, offering new food and games and spiffing up one of the amusement side’s main eateries. The park’s Palace Theater variety show also will be replaced with a magic show.

 

Not that the attractions will be ignored completely: Two thrill rides will get new paint jobs, one will have cameras installed in every seat so visitors can buy a video memento of their ride and a movie/simulator ride is being re-themed.

 

David Sangree, president of Lakewood consultancy Hotel & Leisure Advisors, sees the logic of Cedar Fair’s continued emphasis on more family-oriented activities, particularly Geauga Lake’s $24 million Wildwater Kingdom.

 

“You can do a lot of different (water) rides for that amount of money, when it may cost that amount for one roller coaster,” Mr. Sangree said. “They have publicly admitted they have plans to make Geauga Lake more of a local draw, and for a local draw, a water park does fit a bit better.”

 

It won’t hurt that Cedar Fair will have the area’s only such attraction: Dover Lake Waterpark in Sagamore Hills didn’t open for the 2006 season and was sold in November for $500,000 to neighboring Brandywine ski resort. Boston Mills/Brandywine marketing manager Kim Laubenthal said the company has no interest in re-opening the 54-acre water park.

 

 

 

On the benchmarks

 

Mr. Falfas notes that Cedar Fair isn’t abandoning the rides side of Geauga Lake: He notes that the company has invested in a lot of repainting and sprucing up of existing rides and has rebuilt the Raging Wolf Bobs coaster. He also says there are plans for new attractions, but wouldn’t offer any details.

 

Geauga Lake also is working with a short calendar: Cedar Fair ended the park’s Halloween Haunt weekends last season, and at 101 days, the 2007 operating season will be among the shortest in the Cedar Fair family. (Two more days are set aside for private corporate events.)

 

Despite Geauga Lake’s flat attendance, Cedar Fair insists there’s reason for optimism: Company spokeswoman Stacy Frole said with fewer operating days in 2006, Geauga Lake brought in the same number of guests as in previous seasons — something the company sees as a mark of growth.

 

The park’s manager, Mr. Spehn, mentioned other benchmarks.

 

“We’re pleased with growth in the heart of the season, which is in June after schools have let out to our last day in the third week of August,” he said. “We’re pleased with our growth in season passes, and we’re pleased with the growth in our group sales bookings with new accounts.”

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^ So nice you quoted it twice!

 

I'd say Dominator is proably a good bet. Double Loop was in desperate need of a paintjob too. Thunderhawk was repainted two years ago, although the sharpness of the paint was badly faded.

 

Any ideas on the raft ride? It was dry when I was there in June.

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I just don't buy their effort to attract people to Geauga. They ripped out the animal side, and then rebuilt the water park on the other side of the lake. They haven't really given the people many reasons to come back. Especially when the park was more disgusting looking when I went under CF management than it was under SF's. Plus, when you factor in that they still plaster the area with CP billboards and advertisements as opposed to a few more GL advertisements, they aren't going to draw a great deal of people in. I don't feel like you can simply change the name back and say "new ownership" and make everything alright, especially after ripping out a popular attraction.

 

Yes, thanks CF for a press release, but it's a less than stellar answer. At the same time, so long as they don't take out anything else and they keep the price low, maybe the park will be better off.

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You know, considering that they shortened the season a bit and still had the same attendance, that is not too bad. I kind of agree that the two coasters were just kind of stuck out there in the front. It may have been better if they were towards the back to spread the wealth around the park (Or at least one of them. I think I like the idea of Venom going to Carowinds But who knows

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You know, considering that they shortened the season a bit and still had the same attendance, that is not too bad. I kind of agree that the two coasters just kind of stuck out there. I think I like the idea of Venom going to Carowinds But who knows

 

I was about to mention that. If they had a normal season then they could of broke the 800,000 mark or greater seeing as the Haunt had the biggest draw of people.

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