Geauga Lake Discussion Thread

[Ptrick82]

lol, no they may not have been planning to move it to KI but I guarantee you they were planning on it as soon as they bought GL out from SF. Its all a plaaaaaaan!

[Scaparri]

^Yeah, Dominator had the same deal when I was there in '05, too. I didn't really feel it hurt the ride though. Sure, it would've been nicer if it wasn't there, but the ride was still extremely smooth. I just hope it isn't much worse now.

[SharkTums]

I've had really hit or miss rides on Batman: Knight Flight (It will never be dominator to me!!!). I remember when it first opened it felt like it was put together with chewing gum it was sooo rattling. Then I would have a good ride a year later, then a bad, etc.

[CoasterFanatic]

This is so last summer. Doesn't anyone read my TRs

 

Last Summer:

 

 

[mcjaco]

^ I remember you posting that two weeks after I was there. I was shocked, because it was running awesome.

[LOVE SFKK]

1998 - Mamba

2000 - Boomerang

2001 - Camp Snoopy

2002 - Thunderhawk

2003 - Paradise Falls

2004 - Spinning Dragons

2006 - Patriot

 

I hardly call that "doesn't get much love." For a park that attracts less than a million people annually, that's a lot of damn love

 

 

well, six years is quite a while for a good coaster, and i though WoF brought in people arouund the 4 million mark, but idk

 

Its definately going to MiA, WoF, or a Paramount Park (CW maybe)

[coasterguy618]

I really hope it will be heading to Dorney.

[kraxleRIDAH]

1998 - Mamba

2000 - Boomerang

2001 - Camp Snoopy

2002 - Thunderhawk

2003 - Paradise Falls

2004 - Spinning Dragons

2006 - Patriot

 

I hardly call that "doesn't get much love." For a park that attracts less than a million people annually, that's a lot of damn love

 

and i though WoF brought in people arouund the 4 million mark, but idk

 

 

Worlds of Fun bringing in people around the 4 million mark? Even Cedar Point doesn't even draw in close to that many guests a year.

 

Here are some real numbers (from the 2004 attendance by Cedar Fair) -- all Cedar Fair parks listed in order of attendance figures:

 

1] Knott's Berry Farm (3.5 million)

2] Cedar Point (3.2 million)

3] Dorney Park (1.4 million)

4] Valleyfair! (1 million)

5] Worlds of Fun (900,000)

6] Geauga Lake (700,000)

7] Michigan's Adventure (470,000)

[Carnage]

1998 - Mamba

2000 - Boomerang

2001 - Camp Snoopy

2002 - Thunderhawk

2003 - Paradise Falls

2004 - Spinning Dragons

2006 - Patriot

 

I hardly call that "doesn't get much love." For a park that attracts less than a million people annually, that's a lot of damn love

 

 

well, six years is quite a while for a good coaster, and i though WoF brought in people arouund the 4 million mark, but idk

 

Its definately going to MiA, WoF, or a Paramount Park (CW maybe)

 

Canadas Wonderland got a mouse, a volaire, and Italian Job in a 10 year span.

 

WoF has been treaded pretty well it seems.

[thecoasterkid]

^ Ugh...don't remind me about Tomb Raider. I believe that if I completely ignore it...it doesn't really exist. I even notice the GP getting tired of that coaster.

 

Wow...Michigans Adventure has a REALLY low attendance. Anyone else vote we (PCW) trade them Minebuster or Tomb Raider (hell, take both and I'll throw in Sky Rider for free!) for Shivering Timbers?

 

Steel Venom would probobly still be a best fit for MiA. It would attract people to the park, give them something to market around, and it's low capacity isn't an issue there.

[Swoosh]

I wish that they would release the attendance figures for this season. I know WOF was up from last year, but I am curious as to if they made the 1 mil mark again. I know Halloweekends really suplimented the end tally.

[Swoosh]

1998 - Mamba

2000 - Boomerang

2001 - Camp Snoopy

2002 - Thunderhawk

2003 - Paradise Falls

2004 - Spinning Dragons

2006 - Patriot

 

1997 - Zambezi Zinger removed

1999 - Plunge removed

2001 - Omegatrom removed and rethemed kids area (again!)

2002 - Aquatic Arena removed

2003 - Orient Express removed

 

It's more of a hate-love relationship as even though we added two major coasters, we lost two as well. I'm not sure you could call that love.

[Carnage]

It's more of a hate-love relationship as even though we added two major coasters, we lost two as well. I'm not sure you could call that love.

 

Seems like removing two coasters for two better coasters.

 

Seems like an upgrade to me.

[cjeagle35]

4) A homeless crackhead decorates his box better than CF themes their rides.

 

I don't see why you continue to bring up this issue. Where does it say you have to have great themeing to have great rides? Why does a park need good themeing to be an enjoyable experiance? Amusement parks went without themeing for 100 years until themeing became standard in the 1950s after the debut of Disneyland. Lets just look at Kings Island for a second, which would you rather have, the nice grass, trees, and flowers of the Antique Cars, or the themeing of Italian Job, with its concrete, gravel, and steel? The Cedar Fair parks on a whole just don't make enough to justify themeing their parks like yearound parks, like Disney and Busch. I'll tell you what, now that KI is out the hands of Paramount, I'm so glad that every new mediocre ride won't be themed like some bad movie.

[RollerC]

I thought about it for a few hours and I come to the conclusion that it could be a good idea. AS long as they do a really good expansion project for 2008! I want to see them add 4 or 5 flats to the ride side. Fix things up, repaint Dominator and Headspin, retrack Villain(like they were actually going to do it this year ) rid rid of the old waterpark site and other general park improvements. They really need to put those big pavillions in the old waterpark spot(Like the ones at Kennywood). With the 4 or 5 flats. I'd like them to add 2 Big Flats(Like a revolution or even an S@S Double Shot) and 2-3 family flats. I'd like them to bring back the silver bullet and the Music Express. I would also like to see the rides on the waterpark side to be placed on the ride side. I know that sounds like alot so mabey they should have it has a 2008-2009 project. I would also like to see a Coasters restraunt because I liked the one at CP.

[coastrfreak2000]

 

Wow...Michigans Adventure has a REALLY low attendance. Anyone else vote we (PCW) trade them Minebuster or Tomb Raider (hell, take both and I'll throw in Sky Rider for free!) for Shivering Timbers?

 

Steel Venom would probobly still be a best fit for MiA. It would attract people to the park, give them something to market around, and it's low capacity isn't an issue there.

 

I like your thinking!

[cjeagle35]

^^That plan is very ambitions. I think the park would do good by adding a dark ride for families, a few more slides for the waterpark, and drop tower (Intamin or S&S) for the thrill seekers. As long as they continue the general improvements and do a good job of marketing to families, these installations could really help the park.

[RollerC]

I hope people don't go all "A thrill ride isn't in the family experience". Well Hydes was built and it obviously did well during its time at the park.

[cjeagle35]

^Yes, with its lost the park could use a new drop tower. It would be a good way to put in a good thrill ride cheaply, unlike a new coaster.

[coasterdude5]

I don't know, I might be totally off on this, but I think CF is slowly doing one of two things:

 

(a) Taking rides away until they decide to close the park

 

or

 

(b) They are slowly taking away the rides to transform the park into a full-scale waterpark, which they seem to be doing based on there past expansion over the past couple years.

 

This might've already been said but 11 pages is alot to read, haha.

[RollerC]

I don't know, I might be totally off on this, but I think CF is slowly doing one of two things:

 

(a) Taking rides away until they decide to close the park

 

or

 

(b) They are slowly taking away the rides to transform the park into a full-scale waterpark, which they seem to be doing based on there past expansion over the past couple years.

 

This might've already been said but 11 pages is alot to read, haha.

 

 

I don't see them doing either of those. I highly doubt they want to kill a park who's history extends back to the 1800's.

[Jew]

^You answered your own question.

 

Why does a park need good themeing to be an enjoyable experiance? Amusement parks went without themeing for 100 years until themeing became standard in the 1950s after the debut of Disneyland.

[Swoosh]

Seems like removing two coasters for two better coasters.

 

Seems like an upgrade to me.

 

Spoken like someone who never got to ride Zambezi Zinger

[cjeagle35]

^Yes but there are plenty of good parks without much themeing. Cedar Point, Kennywood, and Hersheypark are great examples of parks without much themeing that are very enjoyable. I just don't see how slapping a Batman logo on something or giving a ride a bad movie name, and calling it themeing makes the park a better experiance.

[cjeagle35]

I don't know, I might be totally off on this, but I think CF is slowly doing one of two things:

 

(a) Taking rides away until they decide to close the park

 

or

 

(b) They are slowly taking away the rides to transform the park into a full-scale waterpark, which they seem to be doing based on there past expansion over the past couple years.

 

This might've already been said but 11 pages is alot to read, haha.

 

I don't see why people say this. Its not that I believe Cedar Fair wants to save this classic amusement park that has been around since the 1800s, but because it simply doesn't make sense. Why would CF get ride of a park that is making about 26mil a year? No way the land that the park sits is worth 26mil, especially in the economy of northeast Ohio, as the area certainly isn't growing. Even if the park's revenue doesn't improve, making 26mil a year is still more profitable than closing the park and selling the land. GL will stay simply because it would not be profitable for CF to buy the park, invest in it, and then sell it.