GabrielOak Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 See BBC news: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8133785.stm Just wondered if there are other coasters claiming this record? Looks superb though and the ride video is brilliant. Watched this at work and the others thought I was watching a horror film with all the screaming!
Hercules Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 I do believe Mumbo Jumbo now has the steepest first drop in the world, so the claim is correct. There have been a lot of rides that have been built in the last few years that have been touted as the steepest in the world. It has become a way to make a ride marketable and noteworthy.
Tbcoasterfan Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 Looks like the exact same layout as Steel Hawg. I don't remember how steep that one is though but it's also this same S&S coaster.
CorkscrewFoley Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 Mumbo Jumbo is the steepest in the world. It's one degree steeper than Steel Hawg.
Loefet Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 I don't count it as the steepest coaster out there, since they use trims to bring down the speed on the really steep part, compared to what Eurofighter's and other beyond vertical drop coasters do. And even if you recognize the drop on Mumbo Jumbo as a drop even if they have the trims, then Afterburner at Wonder Island should be counted as well and it's definitely steeper: Just Look at it, (pic at RCDB) But then again those 2 drops are nothing, the other Screaming Squirrels which are even steeper, Sequoia Adventure - RCDB So no in both senses in my opinion.
CorkscrewFoley Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 They used the trims on MJ and SH to curve the G-Forces a bit, and the lats on that first turnaround, I reckon.
Coaster Cow Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 ^^ So I guess the question with Sequoia Adventure is if it is a drop if it stops going down. Afterburner does seem steeper, though.
monkeyoverlord71 Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 Sequoia Adventure and Afterburner are braked all the the way down whereas Mumbo Jumbo has only trims. That's probably something to do with it.
MattC Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 technically the steepest you can go is 90 degrees then you just start going back on yourself don't you?
haux Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 Sequoia Adventure and Afterburner are braked all the the way down whereas Mumbo Jumbo has only trims. That's probably something to do with it.I don't understand the difference. Aren't they called trim brakes? And in the pictures I just looked at, it appears that Mumbo Jumbo's brakes cover the drop to the steepest part.
GabrielOak Posted August 31, 2009 Author Posted August 31, 2009 Great feedback thanks guys. Still slightly confused over what constitutes "steepness" exactly. I mean once it gets to 90 degrees isn't it less steep then whichever way you go? Either way the new ride looks pretty frightening!
Koolkid Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 The Steepest complete freefall drop is Saw: The Ride at Thorpe Park
monkeyoverlord71 Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 Sequoia Adventure and Afterburner are braked all the the way down whereas Mumbo Jumbo has only trims. That's probably something to do with it.I don't understand the difference. Aren't they called trim brakes? And in the pictures I just looked at, it appears that Mumbo Jumbo's brakes cover the drop to the steepest part. I was saying that the brakes don't go down the whole of Mumbo's drop so it actually "drops". Afterburn and Sequoia are constantly braked down the drops so they don't actually "drop". Do you get what i'm saying?
MattC Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 basically it's not gravity right? Does it almost have a powered feel to it?
ebl Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 Actually, wouldn't the world's "steepest" coaster be the Screamin' Squirrel from S&S? In theory, it has a 180-degree drop because it goes right back under itself. On the other hand, though, it's not a "drop" per se. Eric
Angry_Gumball Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 Seeing the topic I was going to say the same thing that's already been brought up: can't go steeper than vertical. Top speed actually probably decreases as it's no longer a straight freefall drop. I guess then if you really wanted, you can have an inverted loop and claim it as going well beyond vertical (causing extreme amounts of pain) so you do a whole 360...but wouldn't be much of a drop.
Kennyweird Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 Actually, wouldn't the world's "steepest" coaster be the Screamin' Squirrel from S&S? In theory, it has a 180-degree drop because it goes right back under itself. On the other hand, though, it's not a "drop" per se. Eric Here's a question to think about: What is a drop?
ebl Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 ^ To me a "drop" is a section of track whose end is lower than its beginning. Gravity causes a coaster car/train to get from the higher end to the lower one. Maybe now we should define "steep." Eric
DBru Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 I don't understand the difference. Aren't they called trim brakes? And in the pictures I just looked at, it appears that Mumbo Jumbo's brakes cover the drop to the steepest part. Are you sure about that, haux? Look again... http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3215/2715011611_945342b299.jpg?v=0 From that photo, it seems to me that the brakes cut off at (the first point in which you reach) 90*.
dr.gumbo Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 The whole steepest drop thing is too conditional really. Some may say a vertical drop is the steepest you can go, while others say that you can go beyond that as long as brakes aren't used at any point. But then again, if brakes aren't used during the steepest point then it actually 'drops' at that angle so in theory it should be the steepest drop, but as always, some people disagree. Flamingolands one of my home parks so I'm just going to say Mumbo Jumbo's got the steepest drop.
JimmyBo Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 What about Flying Coasters and the Pretzel Loop? If you can go steeper than 90 degrees than a Pretzel Loop technically goes back on itself and comes right side up. Jimmy "Imagine a sitdown steel coaster with only a lap bar restraint with a pretzel loop" Bo
robbalvey Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 I think the steepest drop in the world happens right at the point when you are teabagging someone and they wake right up *just* as the balls hit the face. That's steep!!!
GabrielOak Posted September 2, 2009 Author Posted September 2, 2009 LOL Robb, that's one coaster I'll be avoiding!
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