GhostRider16 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Perilous Plunge is counted as a coaster, making it the 10th they are referring to in the ads. The park classifies it as such because of it's chain lift and that it's course is entirely track, upstop wheels and all. It is not entirely tracked because it does have a portion that is just the flume where it floats around. It goes off the track at that point, but i guess if you consider the flume still part of the track then i guess it does classify as a coaster. That would make it the tenth coaster..... I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolliger&Mabillard Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 ^Well it's not my opinion...I don't think it's a coaster. I consider it a flume ride. The PARK considers it a coaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electerik Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Total lie. The entire Mine Ride is powered. The operator does more than control the brakes. This looks like a job for Electerik! The trains have electric motors, but they're only used to go from Unload to Load, to get the train rolling from Load, and to get the train up the small uphill section just past the stalactite caverns. The rest of the way, the operator pretty much rides the brake. Theoretically, the operator could power the train through most of the ride, but it would be pointless and possibly unsafe (as it would cause the train to go entirely too fast through several areas that normally require heavy braking to maintain the approved ride pace). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostRider16 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 ^^ Ya, by you I meant people in general, but yes the park has to be classifying it as a coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolliger&Mabillard Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 ^Oh I know, I just wanted to make it it clear that I don't consider it a coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 LMAO- If Disney does not consider test track a roller coaster, than plunge definitely is not a coaster, no question. From Disneyworld.com The Test Track attraction is a 5-minute, high-octane thrill ride that takes Guests through a series of vehicle prototype tests on what is one of Disney's longest, fastest rides. Hold on tight as the cars reach 60 miles per hour on 50-degree banked curves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostRider16 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 ^Disney also calls Space mountain a "roller coaster type ride", not a roller coaster but a roller coaster type ride. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Yeah, but they at least use the word roller coaster. for Test Track, the word roller coaster is not even mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelegendarymatthew Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Well thats just funnyy. KD advertises 14, when it has 13. There really is nothing besides Rebel Yell s 2nd side, but even that wouldn't count. Well I guess CF can't remember when they lost a ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 cough cough CREDIT WHORE cough cough But, seriously! Who would count rebel yell as 2 credits? They are clones of each other, right? At least, that's what it looks like on RCDB, which is pretty reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelegendarymatthew Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 ^Well rcdb counts both Primeval Whirls as 2 coasters. Yet they don't count Gwazi, Lightning Racers, or Dueling Dragons! -Matthew "Must have them credits" K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 LMAO- If Disney does not consider test track a roller coaster, than plunge definitely is not a coaster, no question. Test Track is powered throughout the entire ride. It's dark ride mechanics that happen to be able go fast. I wouldn't count Plunge as a coaster, but it does ride on coaster style track and uses gravity to actually roll and coast. Test Track doesn't really do any of those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Thrill Dragster Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 But, seriously! Who would count rebel yell as 2 credits? They are clones of each other, right? At least, that's what it looks like on RCDB, which is pretty reliable. I do, two separate tracks=two coasters. Same with Colossus & Superman at SFMM and Gemini at Cedar Point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electerik Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Test Track is powered throughout the entire ride. It's dark ride mechanics that happen to be able go fast. I wouldn't count Plunge as a coaster, but it does ride on coaster style track and uses gravity to actually roll and coast. Test Track doesn't really do any of those things. Yeah, but if I count Test Track and everything that's more coaster-like than Test Track, my coaster count shoots up to about 1300! /No, I didn't count. //Seriously, rapids rides are more "coaster-like." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollerman87 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Total lie. The entire Mine Ride is powered. The operator does more than control the brakes. This looks like a job for Electerik! The trains have electric motors, but they're only used to go from Unload to Load, to get the train rolling from Load, and to get the train up the small uphill section just past the stalactite caverns. The rest of the way, the operator pretty much rides the brake. Theoretically, the operator could power the train through most of the ride, but it would be pointless and possibly unsafe (as it would cause the train to go entirely too fast through several areas that normally require heavy braking to maintain the approved ride pace). Wrong. I work at Knott's and have been on Mine Ride more times than I could count. More than that, I have many friends who work on it and have taught me about it. The entire thing is powered. It uses an old gear system to operate. Next time you go to Knott's, ask the operatros, for you will find they do more than just "coast with the brakes." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Somewhere Jeff Johnson is sitting, looking at this having the opposite discussion. "How does Knotts only have 10 credits? I've gotten 37 credits there myself!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginzo Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 ^In a row? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Nicky Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Perilous Plunge is counted as a coaster, making it the 10th they are referring to in the ads. The park classifies it as such because of it's chain lift and that it's course is entirely track, upstop wheels and all. It is not entirely tracked because it does have a portion that is just the flume where it floats around. It goes off the track at that point, but i guess if you consider the flume still part of the track then i guess it does classify as a coaster. That would make it the tenth coaster..... I guess. Yes but so do the Journey to Atlantis coasters at SeaWorld and they are still counted as coasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost007jas Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 ^ That's what I was thinking.. what's the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electerik Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Wrong. I work at Knott's and have been on Mine Ride more times than I could count. More than that, I have many friends who work on it and have taught me about it. The entire thing is powered. It uses an old gear system to operate. Next time you go to Knott's, ask the operatros, for you will find they do more than just "coast with the brakes." You sure are quick to make bold pronouncements. But if you'll kindly read my post, you'll see that I never claimed that all the operator does is brake. In fact, I took great pains to explain how the trains are powered and exactly when that power is applied. But I suppose there's no way I could possibly compete with your mighty second-hand knowledge--unless of course I had worked Calico Mine Ride myself, personally, for years. /Tell me more about how wrong I am. Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Rollerman87 just got owned so hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manic Monte Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 It's Joe Cool's Gr8 Sk8! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electerik Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Somewhere Jeff Johnson is sitting, looking at this having the opposite discussion. "How does Knotts only have 10 credits? I've gotten 37 credits there myself!" You know, I can see how someone as old and non-discriminating as Mr. Mailman could conceivably count 11 credits just on that one small plot of land in the far back right corner of the park! Motor Cycle Chase - 4 Wacky Soap Box Racers - 4 Windjammer - 2 Xcelerator - 1 /Old enough myself. //Only count 4 total out of that, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollerman87 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Wrong. I work at Knott's and have been on Mine Ride more times than I could count. More than that, I have many friends who work on it and have taught me about it. The entire thing is powered. It uses an old gear system to operate. Next time you go to Knott's, ask the operatros, for you will find they do more than just "coast with the brakes." You sure are quick to make bold pronouncements. But if you'll kindly read my post, you'll see that I never claimed that all the operator does is brake. In fact, I took great pains to explain how the trains are powered and exactly when that power is applied. But I suppose there's no way I could possibly compete with your mighty second-hand knowledge--unless of course I had worked Calico Mine Ride myself, personally, for years. /Tell me more about how wrong I am. Please. I just reread the post, and again, am sitting behind my statement. I may not know the ride (I might be learning it very soon), but at least the way they've operated it everytime I'm on it, they do use the power from load, to the lift, to unload. Sometimes they throw it in neutral, but most of the time, they're actually running power through it. And yes, I have heard that they've derailed a few trains. I'm sure you could go into the technical aspects of where my statements might actually ad up to yours, but lets just agree to disagree at the moment. Once I learn it, then I can get back to you on certain things, for they may do things a little different than when you worked on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electerik Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I know I shouldn't, I know I shouldn't, I know I shouldn't.... I'm sure you could go into the technical aspects of where my statements might actually ad up to yours, but lets just agree to disagree at the moment. Once I learn it, then I can get back to you on certain things, for they may do things a little different than when you worked on it. "Agree to disagree"?? Fine, we'll agree to disagree on whether or not you have any idea what you're talking about. Clearly, things have changed at Mine Ride. Because when I worked there, they wouldn't let just anyone learn it. And they certainly wouldn't have run the ride in a manner that would cause trains to derail. /*sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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