aCoasterStory Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 Six Flags America should get the "Led Zepplin" coaster, to add to their used coaster collection! Love it.
ajfelice Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 From some inside the industry investigative research about purchasing large used rides and coasters, I believe a likely problem with relocating a coaster the size of Led Zeppelin/Time Machine is the cost. From the cost of acquiring the ride, disassembling it, shipping it, and assembling it, you are basically paying for a brand new coaster. So why buy used when you can get a brand new ride for a similar price? If speculation is true, someone must be getting this coaster for a bargain.
JonnyRCT3 Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 From some inside the industry investigative research about purchasing large used rides and coasters, I believe a likely problem with relocating a coaster the size of Led Zeppelin/Time Machine is the cost. From the cost of acquiring the ride, disassembling it, shipping it, and assembling it, you are basically paying for a brand new coaster. So why buy used when you can get a brand new ride for a similar price? If speculation is true, someone must be getting this coaster for a bargain. Rule of thumb; used things are cheaper. Why pay more when you don't have to?
lilsam1993 Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 My gut is telling me the coaster will be at Holiday World or Kentucky Kingdom. I do believe Kentucky Kingdom will be adding a new ride next year along with the reopened attractions
ajfelice Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 Rule of thumb; used things are cheaper. Why pay more when you don't have to? My point was that parks are often hesitant to buy very large used rides (example: a B&M coaster) because the total cost of the project is right around the cost of just purchasing a brand new ride. For smaller flats and some smaller coasters, it can be cost-effective to buy used.
JonnyRCT3 Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 It also saves the park the headache of purchasing a ride from scratch. They get something that is pre-built and simply have to relocate it. Also, not every park is on the same budget, so getting a ride for even $2 or $5 million cheaper is ideal.
Guy T. Koepp Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 Follow the trail of where some of those other rides have already been relocated to and you will probably find where LZ is going. Probably being the key word here. I don't want to be the one to speculate, and make a call. But, I probably think they are not leaving the US. In fact, I probably think they are not being relocated all that far. But probably further than Carowinds. And probably further in land. Guy "But I'm probably wrong." Koepp
DarienLaker Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) ^Maybe the Hard Rock/Freestyle park rides aren't leaving North America, maybe they'll go to Mexico and the Led Zepplin coaster would go to the Great Escape to be part of their used ride collection? Edited June 27, 2014 by DarienLaker
djboss302 Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 ^Maybe the Hard Rock/Freestyle park rides aren't leaving North America, maybe they'll go to Mexico? What about Canada eh?
coasterchitchat Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 ^Maybe the Hard Rock/Freestyle park rides aren't leaving North America, maybe they'll go to Mexico? What about Canada eh? Nope, not many parks and CW and La Ronde would not need a looper like this. The other Canadians parks would buy a used giant B&M.
robbalvey Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 Follow the trail of where some of those other rides have already been relocated to and you will probably find where LZ is going. Probably being the key word here. I don't want to be the one to speculate, and make a call. But, I probably think they are not leaving the US. In fact, I probably think they are not being relocated all that far. But probably further than Carowinds. And probably further in land. Guy "But I'm probably wrong." Koepp I guess one could speculate - what parks in America could be lacking a somewhat complete ride package? Are there any parks that could really benefit by having a few if not all of those rides moved there?
Comeagain? Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 I guess one could speculate - what parks in America could be lacking a somewhat complete ride package? Are there any parks that could really benefit by having a few if not all of those rides moved there? Silverwood could use a few more coasters, and has had great success with relocated rides. They're also planning a major expansion next year.
DarienLaker Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 Seabreeze in Rochester, NY could use a looping coaster since Quantum Loop was taken out in 2004 for the Whirlwind spinning coaster (which is the best ride in the park!)
robbalvey Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 Right, but those two already have quite a good ride package. Can you think of any parks that are severely lacking in rides that could use several of them? (I'm not talking LZ, I'm talking everything.)
DarienLaker Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 Right, but those two already have quite a good ride package. Can you think of any parks that are severely lacking in rides that could use several of them? (I'm not talking LZ, I'm talking everything.) Now, that's a good question! I think that a certain Upstate New York theme park could use benefit from more newer dry rides even if means replacing the older ones!
vacoaster09 Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 Right, but those two already have quite a good ride package. Can you think of any parks that are severely lacking in rides that could use several of them? (I'm not talking LZ, I'm talking everything.) As far as US parks my guesses would be. Alabama Adventure (now under the direction of Mr. Koch and all they have is Rampage) or Kentucky Kingdom I don't think any major chain is going to purchase these rides (unless it was six flags which made a deal to open up some new parks overseas).
coasterchitchat Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 Right, but those two already have quite a good ride package. Can you think of any parks that are severely lacking in rides that could use several of them? (I'm not talking LZ, I'm talking everything.) I know I sound stupidbut Michigan's Adventure could REALLY use ALL of Hard Rock's rides. They have a good water park and a good woodie, but LZ would give them more visitors, and there dark ride to MIA would just result is a 50% attendance boost. The kid rides could be part of a brand new Planet Snoopy. LZ would be the best steel coaster there.
coasterchitchat Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 Right, but those two already have quite a good ride package. Can you think of any parks that are severely lacking in rides that could use several of them? (I'm not talking LZ, I'm talking everything.) As far as US parks my guesses would be. Alabama Adventure (now under the direction of Mr. Koch and all they have is Rampage) or Kentucky Kingdom I don't think any major chain is going to purchase these rides (unless it was six flags which made a deal to open up some new parks overseas). I have a feeling that Dan Koch won't buy them. Dan Koch likes new rides. I have a feeling Kentucky Kingdom is out of room ( I know....)
djboss302 Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 ^Maybe the Hard Rock/Freestyle park rides aren't leaving North America, maybe they'll go to Mexico? What about Canada eh? Nope, not many parks and CW and La Ronde would not need a looper like this. The other Canadians parks would buy a used giant B&M. I was joking, eh. Now, that's a good question! I think that a certain Upstate New York theme park could use benefit from more newer dry rides even if means replacing the older ones! Martin's Fantasy Island? I guess they could
DarienLaker Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 Now, that's a good question! I think that a certain Upstate New York theme park could use benefit from more newer dry rides even if means replacing the older ones! Martin's Fantasy Island? I guess they could Martin's Fantasy Island is too small for the Hard Rock/Freestyle park rides! I was thinking of Darien Lake (go figure) as if I wasn't thinking if it in the first place.
coasterchitchat Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 Now, that's a good question! I think that a certain Upstate New York theme park could use benefit from more newer dry rides even if means replacing the older ones! Martin's Fantasy Island? I guess they could Martin's Fantasy Island is too small for the Hard Rock/Freestyle park rides! I was thinking of Darien Lake (go figure) as if I wasn't thinking if it in the first place. What about those plans for the Lake Monster for Darien Lake? Any update on that? I'd like to see that for 2015.
DarienLaker Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 Now, that's a good question! I think that a certain Upstate New York theme park could use benefit from more newer dry rides even if means replacing the older ones! Martin's Fantasy Island? I guess they could Martin's Fantasy Island is too small for the Hard Rock/Freestyle park rides! I was thinking of Darien Lake (go figure) as if I wasn't thinking if it in the first place. What about those plans for the Lake Monster for Darien Lake? Any update on that? I'd like to see that for 2015. Maybe Darien Lake would demolish Predator for the Led Zepplin coaster and call it "Lake Monster" for 2015!
jray21 Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 I could see Alabama Adventure needing those rides. They have all of one coaster right now?
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