CedarFair1 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 So interesting topic of discussion, what could the large redevelopment program be? According to Phillips, Wonderland will be undergoing a large redevelopment program after Sept. 1. Currently, SkyRider sits on 5,100 square metres of prime space right between the Splash Works and the mountain. Here, Wonderland saw an opportunity. “We like to space out (our ideas) over time and we always want to be innovative and leading the industry,” Phillips said. “Guests still like it and it’s a great attraction, but you have to look within the park to understand what’s best for the future.” “The plan is to develop the land for future use. It’s on a prime piece of land in the middle of our park,” Phillips said of SkyRider. “Based on our history at the park, if you look at what’s happened since 2008, we’ve put in two of the top 10 fastest coasters in North America and we’re ranked as one of the top three parks in North America. We’ve put in Behemoth and Leviathan. I can’t define how long it will take, but guests should be excited (about what’s to come),” he added. So interesting topic of discussion, what could the large redevelopment program be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Hero Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) With the ridiculous amount of money and attendance CF is raking in because of CW lately, it's hard to imagine just how big the future is for CW. The future is definitely holding great things, specifically 2017 Edited August 10, 2015 by Coaster Hero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarFair1 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 With the ridiculous amount of money and attendance CF is raking in because of CW lately, it's hard to imagine just how big the future is for CW. The future is definitely holding great thing, specifically 2017 Are you referring to our worlds longest with two launches wing coaster ;0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I think they should put a family coaster/flats in Skyrider's spot and take out Flight Deck and Time Warp and put in a bigger coaster there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom497 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 So interesting topic of discussion, what could the large redevelopment program be? According to Phillips, Wonderland will be undergoing a large redevelopment program after Sept. 1. Currently, SkyRider sits on 5,100 square metres of prime space right between the Splash Works and the mountain. Here, Wonderland saw an opportunity. “We like to space out (our ideas) over time and we always want to be innovative and leading the industry,” Phillips said. “Guests still like it and it’s a great attraction, but you have to look within the park to understand what’s best for the future.” “The plan is to develop the land for future use. It’s on a prime piece of land in the middle of our park,” Phillips said of SkyRider. “Based on our history at the park, if you look at what’s happened since 2008, we’ve put in two of the top 10 fastest coasters in North America and we’re ranked as one of the top three parks in North America. We’ve put in Behemoth and Leviathan. I can’t define how long it will take, but guests should be excited (about what’s to come),” he added. So interesting topic of discussion, what could the large redevelopment program be? Nothing new bud. This was already discussed last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarFair1 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 So interesting topic of discussion, what could the large redevelopment program be? According to Phillips, Wonderland will be undergoing a large redevelopment program after Sept. 1. Currently, SkyRider sits on 5,100 square metres of prime space right between the Splash Works and the mountain. Here, Wonderland saw an opportunity. “We like to space out (our ideas) over time and we always want to be innovative and leading the industry,” Phillips said. “Guests still like it and it’s a great attraction, but you have to look within the park to understand what’s best for the future.” “The plan is to develop the land for future use. It’s on a prime piece of land in the middle of our park,” Phillips said of SkyRider. “Based on our history at the park, if you look at what’s happened since 2008, we’ve put in two of the top 10 fastest coasters in North America and we’re ranked as one of the top three parks in North America. We’ve put in Behemoth and Leviathan. I can’t define how long it will take, but guests should be excited (about what’s to come),” he added. So interesting topic of discussion, what could the large redevelopment program be? Nothing new bud. This was already discussed last year. NO IT WASN'T! No one discussed the fact that wonderland was now under a redevelopment project. we only talked about a new coaster not a massive multi year redevelopment of Canada's Wonderland.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick_rc_fan Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Yes we have. Our discussion was not limited to just being about a coaster: we mentioned flats, waterpark expansion, picnic pavillion, washrooms and more. Nothing new to talk about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarFair1 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I mentioned all those things... Yall told me I was wrong and it was a coaster coming.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick_rc_fan Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Don't take credit for mentioning those things. You're not the only person on the thread. Sure we talked about a coaster a lot, but it wasn't limited to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarFair1 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Don't take credit for mentioning those things. You're not the only person on the thread. Sure we talked about a coaster a lot, but it wasn't limited to that. no one mentioned a multi year redevelopment of Canada's Wonderland. we talked about small additions not a large redevelopment... those are very important words as it says a lot of money is about to be invested into the park. And many people on this forum and other forums can vouch i talked about the family rides and bbq and brew and almost everyone was like nah man it's a coaster. You didn't cause I don't remember you, but most thought I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck funny Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 If it were run by maple leaf sports and entertainment they would trade all of their first round draft pics and future prospects for a long in the tooth veteran well past his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarFair1 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Small update; upon arrival I saw small amount of Canada's Wonderland Maintenance workers around the dirt pile beside Minebuster. I thought Minebuster maybe was shut down due to a small problem but it was working. There is metal fencing laid down on the ground next to the power supply station next to Stunt coaster with a people lifter there now where the workers were around. They also had dug up the splash works path again at some point and were re laying some bricks again. There is also a small patch of grass cautioned taped off next to Black Hole in Splash Works. 2016 is looking even more like a Splash Works investment and more land prep for 2017, interesting how their working on the power supply station next to Stunt Coaster cough cough multi launch wing coaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grsupercity Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I think they should put a family coaster/flats in Skyrider's spot and take out Flight Deck and Time Warp and put in a bigger coaster there. I have been saying move Flight Deck to VF for a couple years now. Put a nice B&M invert at CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarFair1 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Reposting what KI Kidd posted in the development section; I would highly suggest reading through the Cedar Point Analyst Day release on the CF website. It has some great info on performance so far this year as well as a very interesting five year capital expenditures matrix. The oft discussed pie chart of park-by-park revenues and EBITDA is also present. Looks like park EBITDA broke down as follows so far this year: 1) Cedar Point 2) Knott's 3) Kings Island 4) Canada's Wonderland 5) Carowinds 6) Kings Dominion 7) Dorney 8) Worlds of Fun 9) California's Great America 10) Valleyfair 11) Michigan's Adventure There are also some interesting notes from the five year capital expenditure matrix. -Major coaster projects each year through 2020 -"Coaster Re-Work" projects for 2016-2018 -Mid-size thrill rides for 2016-2017 and 2019-2020 -Interactive Dark Rides for 2016-2019 -Accommodation expenditures in 2017 & 2019 -Ride Removals in 2016-2018 2016-2020 projects, oh did I forget to mention Minebuster! sports venues and commercial hotels coming to properities across the chain Just remember when I said BBQ and Brew was a huge success and expect to see one in 2016 revenues for the chain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philrad71 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Love the idea of more Food Truck Festivals and Brews/BBQ type of events! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomPoster32 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I think they should put a family coaster/flats in Skyrider's spot and take out Flight Deck and Time Warp and put in a bigger coaster there. I have been saying move Flight Deck to VF for a couple years now. Put a nice B&M invert at CW I agree. Flight Deck at VF would be a good fit. Time Warp could go to DP or even MIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philrad71 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 ^ My vote would be to scrap both, but that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom497 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 CedarFair1, you do realize Stunt Coaster's power station is near the brake run and is partially inclosed by themeing....right? The pictures you posted are no where near that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarFair1 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 CedarFair1, you do realize Stunt Coaster's power station is near the brake run and is partially inclosed by themeing....right? The pictures you posted are no where near that. Theres an underground electrical work in that enclosed fenced off area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom497 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 And you know that how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarFair1 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Have you looked at it, it's very similar to what you see in neighborhoods... It's a small power supply thus why it's also fenced off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom497 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Wait...are you talking about the fence in your first picture? That's where the propane tanks used to be for Stunt Coaster! They just never took out the fences. http://binged.it/1IEDPW3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarFair1 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 well I have no idea what their installing in that area then, unless they are re installing propane tanks, they were working/ had equipment in that square Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom497 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 ^Equipment has been there off and on since the removal of the propane tanks. They kinda used it as a mini boneyard. But I guess anything is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianparkfan Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Personally thinking that's gonna be for our launcher in 2017. Reminds me of what holiday world did with Thunderbird, but on a smaller scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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