linearinduction Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 ^I have ridden it at various times during the season (even as far back as opening year) and I agree that the ride is VERY smooth, but there is a lot of shuffle in that s-turn before the final curve and dip into the brakes. It just doesn't track super well there; however, everywhere else on the ride is insanely smooth.There's been something with that one Track Joint on the Lake Turn since the day it opened. That just chews up the Guide Wheels and then makes the Half Pipe Pretty darn rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. M Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Maybe it's another surprise that this coaster will be using chain lift launch? Like Tornado at Bakken. Â Oh man oh man, you gotta not say this stuff and get my hopes all raised again. That would be so freaking cool, as unlikely as it is. Â I know just how they'd announce it too. They'd post the first POV during testing and write "Oh my, it looks like that lift hill is running awfully fast..." Â Technical question, do all lifts like this have two chains running side-by-side like Fahrenheit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 ^ Gerstlauer eurofighters don't. I think the double chain was something intamin came up with for Fahrenheit, if I'm not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyRush Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 ^ I believe the two chains are used on Fahrenheit because it doesn't have a roll back system, therefore if one chain fails there is a second to back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 ^Yeah, I know. Gerstlauer only uses one because they have traditional anti roll-backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 ^Yeah, I know. Gerstlauer only uses one because they have traditional anti roll-backs. Actually Gerstlauer's chain lift is more like Intamin's cable lift. Just let the chain replaces the cable. Â Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only vertical lift coasters with traditional lift system might be Toboggans(including knock-offs), HRRR, SBF's tower coaster(Including the knock-offs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linearinduction Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 ^Yeah, I know. Gerstlauer only uses one because they have traditional anti roll-backs. Actually Gerstlauer's chain lift is more like Intamin's cable lift. Just let the chain replaces the cable. Â Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only vertical lift coasters with traditional lift system might be Toboggans(including knock-offs), HRRR, SBF's tower coaster(Including the knock-offs) Actually, Gerstlauer's Chain Dog System for their Euro Fighters is the same type of system employed by Schwarzkopf on their Looping Stars, Double Loopings, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. M Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Anyone else hoping that with the new coaster we also get a nice big "Welcome to Knoebels" sign at the entrance, or the place where most people enter? I know it's a little awkward since the park doesn't have any kind of fence around it, but a big sign over the main midway would really up the presentation and excitement factor when you first get there. Right now it's like "oh hey, it's the pavilions... oh hey, it's Skloosh... oh hey, I'm in Knoebels". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 ^Yeah, I know. Gerstlauer only uses one because they have traditional anti roll-backs. Actually Gerstlauer's chain lift is more like Intamin's cable lift. Just let the chain replaces the cable. Â Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only vertical lift coasters with traditional lift system might be Toboggans(including knock-offs), HRRR, SBF's tower coaster(Including the knock-offs) Actually, Gerstlauer's Chain Dog System for their Euro Fighters is the same type of system employed by Schwarzkopf on their Looping Stars, Double Loopings, etc. It's also the same Fahrenheit uses with the difference that it has two. Actually Gerstlauer's chain lift is more like Intamin's cable lift. Just let the chain replaces the cable. I know. What I was saying was that the anti roll-back system is traditional, not the chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) Anyone else hoping that with the new coaster we also get a nice big "Welcome to Knoebels" sign at the entrance, or the place where most people enter? I know it's a little awkward since the park doesn't have any kind of fence around it, but a big sign over the main midway would really up the presentation and excitement factor when you first get there. Right now it's like "oh hey, it's the pavilions... oh hey, it's Skloosh... oh hey, I'm in Knoebels". Possibly, but I doubt it because that way that you mentioned (near Sklooosh) isn't the only way to enter the park. Â EDIT: Plus, they already have a "gateway" overhead road sign on Knoebels Parkway off of PA 487. Edited February 25, 2014 by A.J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Anyone else hoping that with the new coaster we also get a nice big "Welcome to Knoebels" sign at the entrance, or the place where most people enter? Â I kind of like the fact that it doesn't have one. It's just another thing that makes the park unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oryp Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 A shiny new coaster right up front will help give the park a "sense of arrival." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightypotato Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Anyone else hoping that with the new coaster we also get a nice big "Welcome to Knoebels" sign at the entrance, or the place where most people enter? I know it's a little awkward since the park doesn't have any kind of fence around it, but a big sign over the main midway would really up the presentation and excitement factor when you first get there. Right now it's like "oh hey, it's the pavilions... oh hey, it's Skloosh... oh hey, I'm in Knoebels". Â You don't necessarily need to enter by Skloosh. My first time to Knoebels, we immediately made a bee-line to Phoenix before even seeing the Knoebels sign. Â Plus, there's always this sign before parking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I'm pretty sure that the park used to be a whole lot smaller as well. Isn't the light-up sign by the Alamo restaurant the park's original front entrance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidcoaster 2 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 ^ Yes, there used to be a road the went by infront of it and you would cross the road and enter the park (through the sign) before the park closed the road and expanded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SigilX Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Yes, at first the only thing opposite the lighted entry sign were the picnic pavilions, parking, and Crystal Pool. Â It wasn't until the early 2000s that they closed down the road for good. This though was probably the best move for the park as you had to play Frogger getting from the parking to the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Really? Was it only back in the 2000s? I was once there when they had AXS and I could have sworn that the road was closed, but the traffic lights were still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oryp Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I threw together a NoLimits 2 mockup of the 2015 ride to allow for a POV vid, so here it is! It was put together pretty quickly so there may be some pumps and clearance issues and such, but you get the idea. Enjoy, and let me know if you want me to share the park file.  Overview  Different angle  Vid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Your track seems a bit large. I think that the coaster will be a lot tighter than you have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oryp Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 It may be, but to be fair I just took the height and basically eyeballed the rest. It's mostly just to give the general idea, I'll probably revise it once more info comes out. However, bunch of the clearances are already pretty tight, and the whole thing looks about the same as the one from Knoebels if you view it from the same perspectives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmerleeberry Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Wow, what a ride I had on the simulator! Cannot wait to ride the real thing if Knoebels go by that design. The corkscrew near the end caught me by surprise and the helix reminds me of the ending part of the old Galaxy coasters. Â When the park puts that coaster in next season, then I feel that Knoebels will be the place to go to ride a top design coaster, to ride some classic rides, ride their famous dark rides, ride not one but two carousels, ride not one but two of their trains, and ride some rides you don't see other parks offer (I mean - what other park can you drive a motorboat and ride the Looper?). And when you need a break, break out your quarters and play some Pokereno and Fascination and win tickets to trade in for some cool prizes. Â KNOEBELS - IT'S HAPPENING!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPSFMMCW Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Hey thanks for making that pov vid! Gives a really good idea of why the ride will be like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammax144 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 How sad, next up the demand to remove all trees from Knoebels. A couple is suing because the one person tripped over a tree root. Â newsitem.com/news/couple-sues-knoebels-after-trip-and-fall-1.1658576 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperShawn Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 ^ Only thought when reading that is I hate people.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_koppen Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 If that was me I would for damn sure not start a legal case telling everybody how stupid I was not to look where I was going. Â Sometimes people never cease to amaze me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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