The49er Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 I wouldn't bat an eye if they removed Flashback. Just about every park has one so it wouldn't exactly be missed, especially since SFoT's has terrible trains. If they got new trains I would counter that with all the ways the money could have been better spent (getting Adventure Theater open again after sitting dormant for 2 years). I know you were exaggerating, but even CGA doesn't have one. I'm actually looking forward to riding my first Boomerang. Just sayin'...
joco07 Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 Mr.Freeze is not going to have O:TSR anyways, one of its trains is behind Batman right now with its regular laps bars in place. If its going to be backwards or not, no idea.
XYZ Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 I wouldn't bat an eye if they removed Flashback. Just about every park has one so it wouldn't exactly be missed, especially since SFoT's has terrible trains. If they got new trains I would counter that with all the ways the money could have been better spent (getting Adventure Theater open again after sitting dormant for 2 years). I know you were exaggerating, but even CGA doesn't have one. I'm actually looking forward to riding my first Boomerang. Just sayin'... CGA had Invertigo. Since Invertigo is similar to the Boomerang, it kind of counts.
DBru Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 Looking at this image, it seems like Mr. Freeze's current restraints would be substantial enough to support someone during a backwards launch.
A.J. Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 I don't think so. Just check out the front car. The two cool dudes in the front are crouched over forward. During the launch, their bodies would be forced forward so that innocent crouch turns uncomfortable and/or painful. Even if they sit back, when they launch they'll be flung forward to that position whether they like it or not. I don't know about you all, but I am incredibly skinny, like a human stick. Yet, I sit down on Great Bear, pull down the harness, and instantly I cannot move my upper body very far forward (I can still move my head forward easily). The harnesses make sure that I'm restrained to that upright position, much like those two creepy guys in the second row.
chickenbowl Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 Even during the backwards launch of S:EFK at SFMM, you don't even touch the Intamin restraints, I'm sure you would be fin with just the lapbars.
A.J. Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 .65G and you don't even touch them? Alright then, disregard all my blathering!
GigaG Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 Doesn't Mr. Freeze have a faster acceleration than S:EFK? I mean, Mr. Freeze is slower, but it has less room to accelerate... I think.
chickenbowl Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 .65G and you don't even touch them? Alright then, disregard all my blathering! Well maybe I was exaggerating a little bit, all I know is that you are not pressed into them at all. Based on S:EFK and knowing the acceleration of Speed and Flight of Fear (I assume they're similar to Mr. Freeze), I'd say that the restraints they have are substantial enough to handle launching backwards. ^I am not sure about the facts of Mr. Freeze, but I tried to base a hypothesis off of something mildly similar.
A.J. Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 Mr. Freeze launches at about .84G, up to about 31 meters per second in 3.8 seconds.
DBru Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 I don't think so. Just check out the front car. The two cool dudes in the front are crouched over forward. During the launch, their bodies would be forced forward so that innocent crouch turns uncomfortable and/or painful. Even if they sit back, when they launch they'll be flung forward to that position whether they like it or not. What's a roller coaster without a little discomfort? I actually chose that photo because of the position of the guys in the front row. If the train were to launch and catch people off-guard, you can see that this is as far as their upper bodies would go forward. Their faces wouldn't slam into the bars in front of them (which is what I assumed some people were picturing).
GigaG Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 Mr. Freeze launches at about .84G, up to about 31 meters per second in 3.8 seconds. Did you get this from a website or did you calculate it? How did you calculate it if you did calculate it?
A.J. Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 Calculated it. NERD ALERT! 70mph = 31.2928m/s. Acceleration = Velocity divided by Time. 31.2928m/s divided by 3.8s equals 8.2349m/s^2. Gravitational acceleration is known to be 9.81m/s^2. Divide your acceleration by 9.81 to get your acceleration in units of G. 8.2349 divided by 9.81 equals .83944G, or .84G. In the same way, I found that Superman Escape from Krypton launches with an acceleration of .65G (44.704m/s in 7s), and that Storm Runner launches at 1.64G (32.18688m/s in 2s).
chadster Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 Hate to be the good news ferry, but no OTSR's for backwards freeze is the word.
GigaG Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) ^^^So TTD would be 1.36G? Edited March 13, 2012 by GigaG
chadster Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 But whos the word from Reliable inside in the know sources whom I also believe leaked it to Screamscape.
A.J. Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 Thanks, good news fairy. It really doesn't matter to me anyway, because I'll probably never ride Mr. Freeze forwards nor backwards.
TxChoice Posted March 14, 2012 Posted March 14, 2012 I think lap bars would be fine for the backwards launch, but would they be any issue with now looking down the spike instead of upwards? I guess though if the rumor mill has it that there's not going to be a change on the restraints then they may be okay.
chadster Posted March 14, 2012 Posted March 14, 2012 Just think tho guys, when you brake, you get thrown into the lapbar and you brake while traveling backwards. So the question is now, how many g's does you body experience when you brake? Knowing that should help explain to those that are curious on why OTSRs won't be needed for launch purposes. I'm not a mathematical genius so I can't run the numbers **Edit - A.J. pounded at the numbers and came up with about 1.0G's of deceleration at the brakes so it would appear on paper that the launch with no over the shoulder boulder holders shouldn't be an issue**
biker7766 Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 ^^ If that is real, it looks freakin' awesome!!!!!! Great job SFOT!
RideofSteel Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 According to SFOT's site, Flashback is closed for the season. I've heard this one was extremely rough, so maybe they are adding new trains to it. Does anyone know anything about it?
joco07 Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 SFoT's web site has not been updated in a while Flashback is open. And Mr.Freezes trains are the same trains
liftsifter Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 ^ I was talking about Flashback having new trains from Premier, guess not.
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