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The rumor about the new Hulk restraints is hard for me to believe. Seems to me that a coaster with a crazy launch like Hulk would keep OTS restraints.

That's what I thought too, however the launch on Hulk is not too intense. I mean TTD's launch is way more intense, and that only has lap bars. I still can not see them switching to lap bars however, that is just what I have heard.

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The rumor about the new Hulk restraints is hard for me to believe. Seems to me that a coaster with a crazy launch like Hulk would keep OTS restraints.

The shoulder harnesses have nothing to do with the fact that it's a launched coaster. It's the seat's tall backrest that keeps you in place during a launch - there are plenty of launched coasters all over the world with only lap bars but tall backrests for your body to be pushed back onto (Top Thrill Dragster, Xcelerator, Verboten, et al). B&M sitting coaster trains just don't have a place to anchor the restraint in front of the riders because the cars are so much closer together, so they use shoulder harnesses (at least, this is what I've come to understand).

 

You can have a clamshell-style restraint in the form of a shoulder harness, just look at Banshee and the wing coasters.

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The rumor about the new Hulk restraints is hard for me to believe. Seems to me that a coaster with a crazy launch like Hulk would keep OTS restraints.

The shoulder harnesses have nothing to do with the fact that it's a launched coaster. It's the seat's tall backrest that keeps you in place during a launch - there are plenty of launched coasters all over the world with only lap bars but tall backrests for your body to be pushed back onto (Top Thrill Dragster, Xcelerator, Verboten, et al). B&M sitting coaster trains just don't have a place to anchor the restraint in front of the riders because the cars are so much closer together, so they use shoulder harnesses.

 

You can have a clamshell-style restraint in the form of a shoulder harness, just look at Banshee and the wing coasters.

That is a good point. They might be adding the vests later if this is true. I just could not see them taking the route of the lap bar because of the fact you pointed out that it takes a considerable more amount of room. That being said, I would love to see lap bar only, just to see how the forces change throughout the ride, specifically in the zero-g-roll.

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Those restraints are wider though...therefore making the trains wider than the ones they have now. I don't see how that would work.

 

Personally, I hope the Hulk doesn't get the vest restraints. I like it how it is now. I actually like these B&M restraints better than the vest ones. These don't press down on you the whole ride. And they don't get tighter and tighter as the ride goes on. While the vest restraints don't have headbanging...I actually like how the Hulk is a little bit rough in places. To me it adds to the ride.

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I'm not saying that I won't welcome a smoother ride for the Hulk...I just don't see the need for all new trains and restraints. What ain't broke...don't fix it!

Ladies and Gentlemen, a quote all theme park execs need to learn!

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I agree. The ride is very good right now. However, the GP does not like the roughness, and we all know, whatever the GP wants, the GP will get, unfortunately.

 

Well, they do represent the vast majority of the park's business.

 

The Hulk, much like its namesake, is mercurial--great rides one day, rough ones the next. If Universal thinks they can improve the ride and make it more consistently good, more power to them.

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Those restraints are wider though...therefore making the trains wider than the ones they have now. I don't see how that would work.

If they did a variation where the grab bars didn't extend so far to the left and right, they might be able to put the seats close enough together to have a train with the same width as the old one.

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If they did a variation where the grab bars didn't extend so far to the left and right, they might be able to put the seats close enough together to have a train with the same width as the old one.

In theory its easily possible. As a mechanical Engineering major, I have been working on designing a new train style that has the lap bars only, however are just retrofired from the old OTSR. Basically they are bars that extend up and around from the old sockets. If a Freshman Engineer can design something like this, I'm sure the engineers at B&M can.

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I stopped by the park the other day at Islands of Adventure, there are a lot of Jurassic World posters in the Thunder Terrace restaurant area. Also, the Raptor Encounters were pretty long but wow is that neat to see in person!

 

Also, after the installment of the metal detectors, it seems that they got the hang of operating everything with them and things have been running pretty smoothly. It is very easy to get a locker and just go through the metal detectors. At first I thought it was going to be a pain but it really isn't now they've been doing it for some time now.

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Hulk has been operating harder and more frequently than any coaster in the world for 16 years, every single day of the year outside of rehabs. In a seasonal park's timescale, it has accrued the wear and tear of probably 30-35 years' worth of operations. I'm sure new trains are within possibility for a ride that has seen so much use. Much like Big Thunder and Space Mountain getting mega-refurbs at the disney parks over the last decade.

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INSIDIOUS ANNOUNCED HALLOWEEN HORROR NIGHTS 25

 

http://blog.universalorlando.com/whats-new/insidious-hhn-25/

 

Some evil spirits want to live again—and some want to pull you into the eternal darkness.

 

Insidious: Chapter 3 has hit the theaters, and Halloween Horror Nights 25 is celebrating the trilogy by opening the “red doors” to the Further. For those new to the successful franchise, Insidious has scared audience members for the last six years, and all three films are represented in this year’s event.

 

You’ll come face to face with the evil denizens of the Further—the Long Haired Fiend, the Lipstick-Face Demon, the Bride in Black, and the newest evil: The Man Who Can’t Breathe.

 

The path through this terrifying maze can only be accomplished by going into the Further, the mysterious world of the spirits. Many of these spirits crave the souls of the living. And while guests are dodging the grasping hands of death, the Further will disorient any who travel into the great beyond.

 

Paranormal mazes bring a unique opportunity to engage the guests with an eerie theme and pervasive creepiness that will inhabit every turn. You can look forward to an unsettling feeling of terror following you home and roaming your nightmares.

 

Grab your tickets and be on your guard: the spirits want to take what you love most.

 

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Earlier this week I was able to visit the Universal Orlando Resort for the first time in a while and since my last visit a few new things have sprung up...

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The two Harry Potter Celebration commemorative prints can now be purchased as a set for $300... If that's something you're interested in.

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Over in Islands of Adventure, Skull Island: Reign of Kong has grown tremendously since my last visit. The facade work completed looks incredible!

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This appears to be the framing for rock work that will resemble Kong's iconic face.

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A lighter image may make it even easier to see.

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Over in Jurassic Park, Thunder Terrace Falls has received some minor thematic updates to tie into the recent release of Jurassic World.

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It is simple but looks really nice!

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Located in the entrance of the former queue for the previous Triceratops Encounter experience, a new Raptor Encounter meet & greet has opened.

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The raptor emotes incredibly and has full range of motion, along with a bevy of well-triggered sound effects to sync up with the dinosaur's movements.

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It wouldn't be a visit to Universal without a Butterbeer!

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Over in Honeydukes several new desserts have debuted...

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And since you know I like food...

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I had to try them out! I went for the vanilla No Melt Ice Cream and the Pumpkin Cake.

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The pumpkin cake was moist and sweet, but not nearly as flavorful as my favorite pumpkin tart that debuted with Hogshead all those years ago. The no melt ice cream was described to me as whipped frosting, which is a pretty accurate description. It was very sweet and for frosting lovers will be a hit, but this is not a substitute to ice cream itself... They'd probably go really well together if you tried it.

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Most people don't realize this, but you can eat and drink on the Hogwarts Express... Just remember, pinkies out!

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Still fun to watch!

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After seeing Celestina Warlock and the Banshees along with the Tale of the Three Brothers in Carkitt Market, I was finally able to see a new show in Diagon Alley!

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The Fountain of Fair Fortune recently debuted in Carkitt Market.

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The show tells the story (via beautifully crafted puppets) of three witches on a quest to reach the Fountain of Fair Fortune and the trials of sacrifice they must endure to reach their goal. It is definitely worth a viewing if you're in Diagon Alley!

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I was finally able to test out this telephone booth outside of the London Waterfront, where if you dial the appropriate numbers, you can actually hear a message from the Ministry of Magic. It is a nice little detail for sure!

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^Awesome update! Every single time I go to Diagon Alley, I find something new or a different detail that I've never noticed before. It really is an immersive land and it feels like you're not part of the theme park when inside. I am sad that Jaws is gone but Diagon Alley is definitely a great addition.

 

Now for a Jurassic World attraction! (One can only hope)

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How are crowds during the first weeks of august? That's when I'll be visiting and I'm debating if I should get the express pass of not. Also how does the express pass work? Is it more like CF fast passes or Six flags. And lastly are the crowds here usually much heavier than Sea world or Busch Gardens?

 

Thanks

 

 

-Kris

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Hulk has been operating harder and more frequently than any coaster in the world for 16 years, every single day of the year outside of rehabs. In a seasonal park's timescale, it has accrued the wear and tear of probably 30-35 years' worth of operations. I'm sure new trains are within possibility for a ride that has seen so much use. Much like Big Thunder and Space Mountain getting mega-refurbs at the disney parks over the last decade.

 

Has Hulk ever closed for an extended rehab? I think I read on this thread a few pages back it's getting new motors for the launch, so maybe they'll do more work on it while that's happening.

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Has Hulk ever closed for an extended rehab? I think I read on this thread a few pages back it's getting new motors for the launch, so maybe they'll do more work on it while that's happening.

 

My understanding is that there will be two separate closures; one to do work primarily in the queue building, the second to do it on the ride itself (including the launch system and new trains).

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