mark.w Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 Its a shame that new Intamin accelerators (and possibly mega/giga coasters) will have OTSRs instead of lap bars. I was hoping "Stealth" (Thorpe Park) to have lap bars but it ain't happen. Since there are no new Intamin mega coasters I presume these rides will use OTSRs as well. It looks like the lap bars will be very rare in the future. Personally I think that lap bars were way better. Its not something that I can hardly notice. OTSRs really affect airtime. If you are tall enough they become uncomfortable. This is why I recon that TTD is better than KK. Well, share your thoughts.
What Now Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 One reason why I don't have much of a desire to ride any of the newer Intamin Rockets. I found Rita to be uncomfortable.
coasterguy618 Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 I don't mind Intamin Horsecollars, but KK would be alot better if it lapbars.
coaster1 Posted October 2, 2005 Posted October 2, 2005 Haven't had the experience of the new ones yet. OTSRs never bothered me except on Vekomas and certain Arrows ... I forsee INTAMIN installing them on pretty much everything now, since they can't see to comprehend most of the deaths wasn't their fault.
SonOfBeastSucks Posted October 2, 2005 Posted October 2, 2005 I can't see them installing OTSR's on hypers, giga etc but that is just me. I would say a system similar to there wooden coasters will be used or a totaly new design of lapbar.
Nitro X 230 Posted October 2, 2005 Posted October 2, 2005 I'm short, but I still found the OTSRs on Storm Runner to be pretty uncomfortable. I rode TTD before Ka, so I was presuming TTD would be better but I was wrong. KK's restraints were fine because you don't go upside down and get tossed into them. Plus, it's possible to leave a little bit of room for some airtime unlike with the t-bars.
Twister II Posted October 2, 2005 Posted October 2, 2005 Im glad Halfpipe acutally has OTSR, cause for the few who have been on it, you would know what Im saying!
Flyingcoasterfreak Posted October 2, 2005 Posted October 2, 2005 Im glad Halfpipe acutally has OTSR, cause for the few who have been on it, you would know what Im saying! You scare me. I can't even think of anyone living though it if it had lapbars....
Twister II Posted October 2, 2005 Posted October 2, 2005 I thought of that when Elissa was sitting next to me on Halfpipe white-knuckling the OTSR. Now Sidewinder, now thats one NO ONE would live, even the first drop. It has so much airtime is crazy. But it isnt Intimin.
Canobie Fan Posted October 2, 2005 Posted October 2, 2005 I hated SRs OTSRs... when you have you hands up and get airtime the top part just like "cuts" into you.. it really needs more padding.. if it wasnt for the cutting-ness I would say they are the best OTSR... but lapbars are always better........ 8)
benzo41190 Posted October 2, 2005 Posted October 2, 2005 It has been said many times before, they are idiot proof. I mean as long as the seat belt buckels, you will be safe. But with T-Bars there is a greater chance of an accident. The OTSR gives you alot more room than a T-Bar that is stapled to you. I mean all they really have to do is add more padding and they will be perfect.
Red Benny Posted October 2, 2005 Posted October 2, 2005 I didn't mind them on Storm Runner. They made me feel very secure while at the same time giving you a good feel of freedom. I wish all looping coasters had those kind of OSTRs. The only downside is that they can be a little rough. I think Intamin needs to make them a little softer so they don't bang your neck so much. I don't think they should be used on a coaster like Superman that doesn't go upside down. That seems very redundant.
MF310ryb Posted October 2, 2005 Posted October 2, 2005 I have no problems with the OTSR's. I find them to give me more room and air time. The only ride I think is a bit much to add the OTSR's to is Rita. I have not been to Alton Towers to ride it but looking at videos and pictures it looks like a larger launched version of Tivoli Coaster. I got a lot more air time on KK then TDD cause I was not stapled as much since the OTSR's were used. I have also sated in a previous post that from talking with operators at KK they said the Intamin considers these to be a redesign of a lap bar since the straps don't really have a function other then a back up safety precaution.
Fry Posted October 2, 2005 Posted October 2, 2005 ^Rita does actually have huge amounts of air time though, so I'm quessing that's why it has them. I love them as far as OTSRs go. Lap Bars would have been better, yes, but they are probably the best OTSRs I have ever used.
ScOtT k Posted October 2, 2005 Posted October 2, 2005 Im glad Halfpipe acutally has OTSR, cause for the few who have been on it, you would know what Im saying! Are you kidding me?? Halfpipe sucks. It would be sooo much better without the OTSR'S! My head felt like a ping pong ball inside those restraints! The ride would be alot scarier with simple lap bars too...
eyeamthu1 Posted October 2, 2005 Posted October 2, 2005 I don't like the OTSRs on the Rockets, to be honest. With a bit more padding, yeh, they might be decent, but at the moment, they just make the ride uncomfortable. I've been on 4 rockets- I absolutely LOVE TTD and Xcelerator- both are in my Top 5. However, Storm Runner really disappointed me; mainly because I felt that the restraints did not suit SR's inversions, and quick transitions... the ending of Storm Runner really hurts as you twist up into the brakes. Then there's Rita. Like Storm Runner, Rita is by no means a 'painful' ride, it's just uncomfortable. Your collarbones/shoulder-blades smack into the restraints... I have no doubt that SR and Rita would be much MUCH better with lap-bars, or at least padded restraints...
X Posted October 3, 2005 Posted October 3, 2005 I would say the most comfortable OTSRs are on the B&Ms and V2. They are just my favorite, Horsecollars exept on California Screamin=Pain! Kevin"I miss V2"Bujold
Scaparri Posted October 3, 2005 Posted October 3, 2005 I just find OTSRs to generally be unnecessary. Take a look rides such as Mr. Freeze and Flight of Fear. The are pretty crazy and they do just fine with lap bars and seatbelts. There are some rides that I can understand OTSRs being needed, whether it's because of the layout or the nature of the ride, but overall, I find them to be often times unnecessary, especially on rocket coasters.
Shockwave Posted October 3, 2005 Posted October 3, 2005 I don't have a problem with them. They could have been a lot worse than they are. I don't suffer any head banging or uncomfortable rides on Rita, but I'm only 5'6" so I'm comfortable on most rides.
kenshinmac Posted October 3, 2005 Posted October 3, 2005 Im glad Halfpipe acutally has OTSR, cause for the few who have been on it, you would know what Im saying! Are you kidding me?? Halfpipe sucks. It would be sooo much better without the OTSR'S! My head felt like a ping pong ball inside those restraints! The ride would be alot scarier with simple lap bars too... I think the main reason Halfpipe has OTSR is that there is no where to mount a lap bar... I mean look at the damn thing... I love the ride and have no real problems at all. I don't move much at all in it and the restraints are plenty comfortable for me. The majority of the rides at the park are rather uncomfortable... In fact when I rode Mind Eraser for the first time this year I got a pretty bad shot from the restraint... Well you know how it works... Ugh Vekoma restraints seem to kill me... Always the wrong height.
imbordisux Posted October 3, 2005 Posted October 3, 2005 I just find OTSRs to generally be unnecessary. Take a look rides such as Mr. Freeze and Flight of Fear. The are pretty crazy and they do just fine with lap bars and seatbelts. There are some rides that I can understand OTSRs being needed, whether it's because of the layout or the nature of the ride, but overall, I find them to be often times unnecessary, especially on rocket coasters. Two things, though: 1) Premier launchers and classic Antons are high-G rides, where you are pushed INTO the seat - it's like when you spin a bucket of water around, the water stays in the bucket. If a coaster does not go through an inversion with enough force, either because it is moving too slowly, or the inversion is too large to maintain speed (such as this), then you CAN fall out. 2) Premier uses really tiny, tight, compact cars with high sides; you're more or less "stuck" in place because everything is squeezing against you.
blitz Posted October 3, 2005 Posted October 3, 2005 meh, I'm one of those people that feel lapbars would be better for just about anything. Also why I love me some xcelerator
Sir Clinksalot Posted October 3, 2005 Posted October 3, 2005 I didn't mind the Intamin OTSR's too much. They could use a bit more padding. But on Batman Chiller I literally thought I was going to fall out of the seat during the Zero-G roll. First time I have EVER felt like I was going to fall out on a coaster.
CoasterFanatic Posted October 3, 2005 Posted October 3, 2005 I am not a big fan at all of the "new" Intamin OTSRs. I find the ones on Storm Runner and Kindga to be uncomfortable and obstructive.
olimonn Posted October 3, 2005 Posted October 3, 2005 I don't suffer any head banging or uncomfortable rides on Rita, but I'm only 5'6" so I'm comfortable on most rides. I actually had an ERt on it at the beginning of october so I was able to ride it in all the seats, and the first row is absolutely fantastic, you can ride with your hands up all the way and everything is incredibly smooth! but in the other rows, the second curve (after the airtime hill) is headbanging so that if you try to lift your hands up, your neck will be banged on all sides... plus the lap bar will go down further on your knees with the high G forces... I wish it stayed up so that I coul enjoy more the two last airtimes...
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