Purplepills Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Tragic news, seems that the toddler managed to get under/through the fence around the ride and was stuck by the train. FULL ARTICLE If the report is correct, it seems as though the fencing surrounding the ride could need to be improved. Even though the father shouldn't really have been seperated from his child in the first place, it does happen, and surely a funfair aimed at children that young should have more adequate things in place to prevent this from happening. Sympathies to all involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Sad story, but again, no 'coaster' at fault...just another case of parental/personal responsibility. I have a toddler, I know how fast they are. Do you know how careful I had to be with her at Spanish Death Fair!?!? None of the rides had fences or barriers! She could have jumped into the bumper cars, roller coasters, whatever! Even the kiddie rides didn't have barriers! You can't take your eyes off kids for a second! Unfortunately this family learned that the hard way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teacups Make Me Sick Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 ^Ditto...I love the how people in the article are commenting that there have been other coaster related deaths. BTW---How freaking close were the two attractions? It looks like they were 2 feet apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerNut Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Sad story, but again, no 'coaster' at fault...just another case of parental/personal responsibility. I have a toddler, I know how fast they are. Do you know how careful I had to be with her at Spanish Death Fair!?!? None of the rides had fences or barriers! She could have jumped into the bumper cars, roller coasters, whatever! Even the kiddie rides didn't have barriers! You can't take your eyes off kids for a second! Unfortunately this family learned that the hard way. Very sad story especially since I have a toddler(15 months) myself. Just being at home, in a second she can go from one end of a room to the other. I can't imagine going to a fair/park that didn't have fences around the rides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Clinksalot Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Elissa, TOTALLY agree with you. Sad story, but if you don't keep your eye on your kid at ALL TIMES this kind of stuff can happen. Plus, I know kids are quick, but seriously, a kid can't get under a fence in and (according to the article) to the back of the coaster 2 seconds. You just have to ask what the parents were doing that was more important than watching their kid. The article did say the kid was in a bounce house or something, but I know I would ALWAYS watch my kids in those things making sure they didn't come out and wander off when done bouncing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef kitchen Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Can you say court caseeee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelegendarymatthew Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Very sad indeed, but the parents are also responsible, and if he has any other kids, they should be taken away. Its basically murder if you don't watch a kid at that age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netdvn Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I totally agree with everybody else on the subject. I don't have kids of my own, but my sister has a three year old that I have to take care of. He runs around all over the place and he's very curious (although he's not as curious now as he was last year) ao he's always getting himself into trouble. The parents should be held responsible for letting a 2 year old wander around like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost007jas Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 ^^ Negligence, maybe, but murder? Come on. While the parents should be watching their kids at all times, there should be adequate fences around amusement attractions to prevent things like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 ^Why should there be fences? There haven't been fences at this particular fair for at least the 10 years it's been running and there was never an incident. Why the rush for fences? How about some personal responsibility!?!?!? I'm sick of people always telling companies how they should run stuff, how they need to install all of this idiot proof crap...how about just don't let idiots in? Darwin proved it best, natural selection...perhaps this was the toddler of that like 13 year old British father!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjaco Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 There's always a better idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginzo Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I have a toddler, I know how fast they are. Do you know how careful I had to be with her at Spanish Death Fair!?!? None of the rides had fences or barriers! She could have jumped into the bumper cars, roller coasters, whatever! Even the kiddie rides didn't have barriers! Perhaps the Spanish ghetto fair approach is, in a way, better since they don't lull you into a false sense of security with fences that toddlers can crawl underneath. You know you have to be on guard at all times in a place like that. I dunno. I'm not going to pass judgment on these people just yet. As much as I hate people who let their kids run savagely amok in public, it's possible that this was just a brief moment of inattention. That child certainly paid a horrible price for his parents' screw up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emiroo Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Sad story, but again, no 'coaster' at fault...just another case of parental/personal responsibility. I have a toddler, I know how fast they are. Do you know how careful I had to be with her at Spanish Death Fair!?!? None of the rides had fences or barriers! She could have jumped into the bumper cars, roller coasters, whatever! Even the kiddie rides didn't have barriers! You can't take your eyes off kids for a second! Unfortunately this family learned that the hard way. The truth. But I will say that no matter how dumb or irresponsible, nobody should have to go through losing a child...and especially like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdstrom Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I witnessed a toddler jumping off the boat while on the lifthill on Escape to Pompeii at BGE. It was very frightening thing to see, seriously. Ride OP e-stopped the ride and the boy ran down. The boy's father was sitting in the very same row. Not sure how he missed his boy getting out but we could tell he was very embarassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingScooter Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 i just find it sad when things like this happen. My thoughts go out to all those involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintballer Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 It's sad becuase the gp's gonna blame this on the coaster. not the dumbass parents... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdillaman Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 I dunno. I'm not going to pass judgment on these people just yet. As much as I hate people who let their kids run savagely amok in public, it's possible that this was just a brief moment of inattention. That child certainly paid a horrible price for his parents' screw up. I'm with Joe on this one. This is a tragic accident. My prayers go out to the family involved. Think of trying to get on with your life with that "If I'd only..." weighing on your soul forever. -James Dillaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArizonaGuy Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 ^Why should there be fences? There haven't been fences at this particular fair for at least the 10 years it's been running and there was never an incident. Why the rush for fences? How about some personal responsibility!?!?!? I'm sick of people always telling companies how they should run stuff, how they need to install all of this idiot proof crap...how about just don't let idiots in? Darwin proved it best, natural selection...perhaps this was the toddler of that like 13 year old British father!?!? Very well said. Totally agree. Having 5 yr old twin nieces that apparently related to the Energizer Bunny, you can't take your eyes off your kids for a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFChris Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Maybe the parents forgot their child leash. Just sayin... I agree, sympathies go out to the parties involved, but I think part of this has to do with keeping an eye on your children and teaching them responsibility. Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost007jas Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 ^Why should there be fences? There haven't been fences at this particular fair for at least the 10 years it's been running and there was never an incident. Why the rush for fences? How about some personal responsibility!?!?!? I'm sick of people always telling companies how they should run stuff, how they need to install all of this idiot proof crap...how about just don't let idiots in? Darwin proved it best, natural selection...perhaps this was the toddler of that like 13 year old British father!?!? Because if there were adequate fences the child would still be alive? I'm all for personal responsibility, but you're going to sit there and tell me that a parent making one mistake means that this child should die? That doesn't seem fair to the child to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 ^Should we put fences and soft padding everywhere? Where do you draw the line? Maybe we shouldn't allow cars since those kill a whole lot of toddlers every year. And water, do you know how many toddlers drown? Maybe we shouldn't allow water. Where does it end. There was a fence by the way. The kid climbed through or under it. Maybe it should have been a fence so big and tall that you couldn't even see the roller coaster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost007jas Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Don't be ridiculous. You know very well that I am not saying we need to live in a bubble boy society where the government and corporations hold our hands every step we take. What I AM saying, is that clearly the fence was not doing it's job: To keep people out. And if a five year old can do it, then I would say someone who actually wants to (for a purpose more substantial than curiosity) could easily do so as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 No, the point is the fence doesn't need to be there if people are careful. Did you see our new update from the Spanish Fair? There weren't fences all over that place on small and big rides, and there weren't toddlers dying left and right. You're 17 and from SoCal, I can totally understand your lack of personal responsibility, but I hope that's not what we can expect from your generation in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost007jas Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Lack of personal responsibility? Who are you kidding? I can fully understand that the parents, in the end, are responsible for their children. I get that. What I'm saying is, that if the fencing was adequate, the child would not have died. So go ahead, label me, tease me, whatever. But the fact is that the child is dead, and would not be had their been adequate fencing. Yes, yes, if the parents had not made a mistake, the same could be said. But I don't see what's wrong with my wishing there had been adequate fencing so that this kid could still be alive today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArizonaGuy Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Don't be ridiculous. You know very well that I am not saying we need to live in a bubble boy society where the government and corporations hold our hands every step we take. What I AM saying, is that clearly the fence was not doing it's job: To keep people out. And if a five year old can do it, then I would say someone who actually wants to (for a purpose more substantial than curiosity) could easily do so as well. Apparently the fence did it's job fairly well since only one kid got past it. We all take risks in our everyday lives. Nothing is fool/idiot proof. It's very sad that a child has died because of this unfortunate incident but it all boils down to parental responsibility.........period. If a 2 yr old sneaks out of the front door of their house and gets hit by a passing car....who are you going to blame? Are you going to blame the driver who just happened to drive by that house on that day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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